Hidden motors at the CX world championships?
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http://road.cc/content/tech-news/177135 ... rld-champs
This is going to make FCN guessing much harder.
This is going to make FCN guessing much harder.
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Be interesting to know how much these new fangled motors put out. Could be useful into a headwind I guess. But as a packaging issue its either this or a Di2/no cable gear thingy esque battery. Cant get both in the seatpost.0
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Smokey Bacon wrote:Be interesting to know how much these new fangled motors put out. Could be useful into a headwind I guess. But as a packaging issue its either this or a Di2/no cable gear thingy esque battery. Cant get both in the seatpost.
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Road.CC have an article on a hidden seatpost motor that should deliver 200w
That's a fair old boost - providing you've got the battery to provide it.
I can completely understand electric motors on bikes - even hidden ones - for leisure riders ...0 -
Yeah it has its uses for leisure riders. Seen a link to a model on the Pro Race board that costs about 4k so not the most economic solution.0
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The guys on the pro--race thread (maybe it was somewhere else) who seemed to actually know about electric motors of this size and power-output (from their profession) had noise and heat-dissipation as two big hurdles - both would seemingly be a lot less of an obstacle for the cheat to overcome in CX than road-racing.
Damn - I hope it isn't as bad as it sounds; I am just getting my faith back0 -
imatfaal wrote:The guys on the pro--race thread (maybe it was somewhere else) who seemed to actually know about electric motors of this size and power-output (from their profession) had noise and heat-dissipation as two big hurdles - both would seemingly be a lot less of an obstacle for the cheat to overcome in CX than road-racing.
Damn - I hope it isn't as bad as it sounds; I am just getting my faith back
It's a 16yr old girl ; worry about her and her parents first.
Secondly at least the UCI has measures in place to catch riders.
They've been doing a lot of surprise testing of bikes on all the big races for motors.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:imatfaal wrote:The guys on the pro--race thread (maybe it was somewhere else) who seemed to actually know about electric motors of this size and power-output (from their profession) had noise and heat-dissipation as two big hurdles - both would seemingly be a lot less of an obstacle for the cheat to overcome in CX than road-racing.
Damn - I hope it isn't as bad as it sounds; I am just getting my faith back
It's a 16yr old girl ; worry about her and her parents first.
Secondly at least the UCI has measures in place to catch riders.
They've been doing a lot of surprise testing of bikes on all the big races for motors.
She's 19 and the reigning European u23 Champion. Pushy-parent syndrome has a lot to answer for though.0 -
imatfaal wrote:The guys on the pro--race thread (maybe it was somewhere else) who seemed to actually know about electric motors of this size and power-output (from their profession) had noise and heat-dissipation as two big hurdles - both would seemingly be a lot less of an obstacle for the cheat to overcome in CX than road-racing.
Damn - I hope it isn't as bad as it sounds; I am just getting my faith back
it's intresting that it's been done but doping is going to have increased performance and harder to catch.0 -
imatfaal wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:imatfaal wrote:The guys on the pro--race thread (maybe it was somewhere else) who seemed to actually know about electric motors of this size and power-output (from their profession) had noise and heat-dissipation as two big hurdles - both would seemingly be a lot less of an obstacle for the cheat to overcome in CX than road-racing.
Damn - I hope it isn't as bad as it sounds; I am just getting my faith back
It's a 16yr old girl ; worry about her and her parents first.
Secondly at least the UCI has measures in place to catch riders.
They've been doing a lot of surprise testing of bikes on all the big races for motors.
She's 19 and the reigning European u23 Champion. Pushy-parent syndrome has a lot to answer for though.
Fat fingers.0 -
roger merriman wrote:imatfaal wrote:The guys on the pro--race thread (maybe it was somewhere else) who seemed to actually know about electric motors of this size and power-output (from their profession) had noise and heat-dissipation as two big hurdles - both would seemingly be a lot less of an obstacle for the cheat to overcome in CX than road-racing.
Damn - I hope it isn't as bad as it sounds; I am just getting my faith back
it's intresting that it's been done but doping is going to have increased performance and harder to catch.
200W is typical hyperbole from the press - that would be a significant proportion of even pro-riders output and would spotted a mile off. 10-20 Watts would just be enough to make a difference - a few percent less effort over the course of a race could be the difference between having a sprint left and being drained. Still technologically hard to do with reliability and without being spotted0 -
Even a low output of 20-30W would be a huge advantage (nearly 10% average for a rider in that category), dial it in for climbs (without actually going much faster) or a sprint finish and it would give a significant performance boost even if you only had a smallish battery like your typical quad 18650 light pack would give you about 20-25 mins use at 24W (8v and 2250mah given the efficiency curve).Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.0