Sram 22 red or Di2

Boydsta

My current ride has a 105 group set and I want to upgrade. Money isn't really an issue I just want to make the right decision.

Question is, for those with experience riding with both group sets which one do you prefer ?

Secondly, will the value of Sram red 22 drop due to the influx of electronic shifters?

sloppyschleckonds

If money isn't an issue get 2 bikes, one with each.

Boydsta

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19776730#p19776730]SloppySchleckonds[/url] wrote:

If money isn't an issue get 2 bikes, one with each.

I like your thought process but don't really have space for any more bikes in the house

bendertherobot

Budget? eTap is £1k ish. Find a force chainset and brakes, whole shebang for £1200 or so.

If I was buying high end mechanical group sets right now I'd definitely be thinking etap.

Matthewfalle

Is your current ride fully di2 compatible?

noodleman

Agree about e-tap if money isn't an issue.

MiddleRinger

Pre-order SRAM eTap!

stueys

I'm a shim man so would go di2. But etap looks interesting

Anonymous

+1. On the etap. I believe this will seriously challenge the Shimano Campagnolo dominance.

Looks cleaner, easy to setup and fit.

mrb123

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19776733#p19776733]Boydsta[/url] wrote:

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19776730#p19776730]SloppySchleckonds[/url] wrote:

If money isn't an issue get 2 bikes, one with each.

I like your thought process but don't really have space for any more bikes in the house

Buy a bigger house.

FatTed

You need to try SRAM, you may not like the way it changes gears, I could never get along with it. On the other hand I am really interested in etap.

izza

Just went through the same decision.

For sake of trying I went for ETap but not their chainset. Instead put in some Verve Infocranks. When choosing groupsets, the insertion of a crank based system is cheaper overall and more increased features if done at this point.

Boydsta

Thanks for the feedback. I never considered Sram etap. After watching a few videos on the testing it could be the way to go. Is it available to buy online as yet? did the rounds of a few websites and couldn't find pricing. By the looks of it.

joeweston3

Full groupset will come in c.£2000 and transmission kit, i.e. shifters and derailleurs, around £1250. Last I heard, it should be available around late March/early April.

bendertherobot

Transmission kit is £1038 on Wiggle if you have your 12% discount. If you really must have a Red chainset that should be easy to find for less than £200 new, let alone used. Brakes you should be able to get for £130 ish if you look hard enough.

Grill

Love all these people jumping on the ETap bandwagon. What's SRAM's recent reliability record again? Oh yeah, terrible.

That said electronic groupsets on road bikes are pointless to me, although they do make a world of sense on TT bikes. I specced DA9000 for my top bike. Prefer it to the DA9070 I had on my last one.

dwanes

eTap is the way forward, I would wait and get it.

Boydsta

The only downside I see is having to manage 4 batteries. I thought one was enough when looking at the Di2.

Anonymous

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19777250#p19777250]Grill[/url] wrote:

Love all these people jumping on the ETap bandwagon. What's SRAM's recent reliability record again? Oh yeah, terrible.

That said electronic groupsets on road bikes are pointless to me, although they do make a world of sense on TT bikes. I specced DA9000 for my top bike. Prefer it to the DA9070 I had on my last one.

And its not that long ago Wiggo was chucking his Pinarello with electronic DA against and Italian rock face. Shimano are hardly spotless on the reliability front.

Grill

No but Di2 is infinitely more reliable than a system that hasn't yet been tested by the public. Plus Di2 crash protection did it's job on that occasion.

dwanes

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19777435#p19777435]Grill[/url] wrote:

No but Di2 is infinitely more reliable than a system that hasn't yet been tested by the public. Plus Di2 crash protection did it's job on that occasion.

How can you say Di2 is more reliable? how do you know? when etap hasn't even been released yet.

Grill

That's exactly my point. I've had every iteration of Di2 so I know the system intimately (and yes, it's super reliable when correctly installed). For all intents and purposes ETap doesn't even exist, so of course an established and proven system is superior to vapourware. People say the same thing every time a new PM is released yet they all have issues. Those who don't learn from history...

MiddleRinger

^ Absolutely, although it does exist, is available to pre-order and is being used by Katusha this year. We have to encourage as many people as possible to buy into being SRAM eTap beta testers!

I hope it will be great, but will be waiting for eTap V2, which I think will be an awesome groupset!

bernithebiker

You lot can test the SRAM ETAP for me, and after 6 months if it's all still looking good, I might consider it!

DKay

With regards to SRAM eTap, all I'll say is; can you name more than one thing you own which operates wirelessly that has been utterly reliable? I can't.

dwanes

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19778399#p19778399]DKay[/url] wrote:

With regards to SRAM eTap, all I'll say is; can you name more than one thing you own which operates wirelessly that has been utterly reliable? I can't.

I quite often send photos from my mobile phone to my wifes mobile via bluetooth or whatsapp and never had a failure or hiccup. maybe I am lucky.

bendertherobot

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19778399#p19778399]DKay[/url] wrote:

With regards to SRAM eTap, all I'll say is; can you name more than one thing you own which operates wirelessly that has been utterly reliable? I can't.

My Sonos, my printer, both of my Amazon fire sticks, and my solar panels readout thingy.

bernithebiker

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19778413#p19778413]bendertherobot[/url] wrote:

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19778399#p19778399]DKay[/url] wrote:

With regards to SRAM eTap, all I'll say is; can you name more than one thing you own which operates wirelessly that has been utterly reliable? I can't.

My Sonos, my printer, both of my Amazon fire sticks, and my solar panels readout thingy.

I sold our Sonos system as it never had a reliable connection and constantly required updating.

My Iphone refuses to Bluetooth to my Mac.

My Garmin says my Iphone has uploaded my ride for me, but it hasn't.

Etc, etc.

bendertherobot

Did you think about plugging your Sonos in? Home plugs?

MikeBrew

@ A-Robot : I am (was) about to order a Chromecast. Is the Amazon Firestick a better device ?

bendertherobot

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19778480#p19778480]MikeBrew[/url] wrote:

@ A-Robot : I am (was) about to order a Chromecast. Is the Amazon Firestick a better device ?

Yes. Though it depends what use you put it to. My primary use is Netflix and Prime, but I have Plex installed so it streams all my Mac based media (wirelessly).

What do you want it to do?