stanchions

Clockworkmark31

Greetings all,

Curiosity question about stanchions and the color/material. Why are most brands favoring black stanchions, is there a reason or is it just purely cosmetic. Would love to see the new Ohlins forks in the same lovely gold thats on the other two wheeled toy.

rockmonkeysc

It's just cosmetic and marketing bo11ocks.
If the Ohlins fork is as unreliable as the rear shocks then I wouldn't have one. I've new seen three rear shocks snap damper rods on Specialized Demo's.
It's also impossible to get any custom tuning work done and only one or two places can service them.

Clockworkmark31

Thanks was thinking it was cosmetic but just wanted to confirm.

Interesting insight on the Ohlins. I have some on one two wheeled toy and was expecting the MTB forks to be just as good. Will have to wait for some real world reviews but just the news of this peaked my geek radar haha.

cooldad

And black stanchions make any bike look like a BSO.

BigAl

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19772724#p19772724]cooldad[/url] wrote:

And black stanchions make any bike look like a BSO.

BSO ?

Enlighten me.

Edit: Okay, got it; Google has the answer to everything!

Good article here btw:
https://www.southcoastbikes.co.uk/Dont-Buy-a-Cheap-Bike

Interesting point in the first response re how people are happy to spend £100s on an iPhone but think £500 is a huge amount for a bike

rockmonkeysc

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19772724#p19772724]cooldad[/url] wrote:

And black stanchions make any bike look like a BSO.

Except that some of the best forks have black stanchions.

cooldad

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19773019#p19773019]RockmonkeySC[/url] wrote:

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19772724#p19772724]cooldad[/url] wrote:

And black stanchions make any bike look like a BSO.

Except that some of the best forks have black stanchions.

Non sequitur. (Google it if your brain hurts) Still makes them look like a BSO - IMO.

Your opinion may differ, but is unimportant anyway.

rockmonkeysc

I think the new BoXXers, Pikes and Lyrics all look good, unless they have white lowers.

buddy_club

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19773093#p19773093]RockmonkeySC[/url] wrote:

I think the new BoXXers, Pikes and Lyrics all look good, unless they have white lowers.

+1

RevellRider

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19772595#p19772595]RockmonkeySC[/url] wrote:

If the Ohlins fork is as unreliable as the rear shocks then I wouldn't have one. I've new seen three rear shocks snap damper rods on Specialized Demo's.

Is that just not the Demo? I've heard of and seen Cane Creek and Fox shocks snap on Demos, it's something to do with the suspension action flexing the shock at the end of the stroke.

rockmonkeysc

Never heard of a Fox shock breaking on a Demo. Ohlins worked with Specialized during development which is why it's currently exclusive to Specialized. You would have thought they would have done some testing to make sure it wouldn't snap like Cane Creeks do.
I wouldn't have a completely sealed shock which I can't service and can't be tuned if it's not right or you want to fit it to a different bike.

poah

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19772724#p19772724]cooldad[/url] wrote:

And black stanchions make any bike look like a BSO.

lay off the hallucinogens

Clockworkmark31

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19773019#p19773019]RockmonkeySC[/url] wrote:

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19772724#p19772724]cooldad[/url] wrote:

And black stanchions make any bike look like a BSO.

Except that some of the best forks have black stanchions.

So cosmetic or functional..... :?

rockmonkeysc

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19774047#p19774047]Clockworkmark31[/url] wrote:

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19773019#p19773019]RockmonkeySC[/url] wrote:

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19772724#p19772724]cooldad[/url] wrote:

And black stanchions make any bike look like a BSO.

Except that some of the best forks have black stanchions.

So cosmetic or functional..... :?

Cosmetic. It's just coincidence that some of my favourite forks have black stanchions.

Clockworkmark31

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19774067#p19774067]RockmonkeySC[/url] wrote:

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19774047#p19774047]Clockworkmark31[/url] wrote:

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19773019#p19773019]RockmonkeySC[/url] wrote:

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19772724#p19772724]cooldad[/url] wrote:

And black stanchions make any bike look like a BSO.

Except that some of the best forks have black stanchions.

So cosmetic or functional..... :?

Cosmetic. It's just coincidence that some of my favourite forks have black stanchions.

:?

poah

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19774075#p19774075]Clockworkmark31[/url] wrote:

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19774067#p19774067]RockmonkeySC[/url] wrote:

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19774047#p19774047]Clockworkmark31[/url] wrote:

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19773019#p19773019]RockmonkeySC[/url] wrote:

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19772724#p19772724]cooldad[/url] wrote:

And black stanchions make any bike look like a BSO.

Except that some of the best forks have black stanchions.

So cosmetic or functional..... :?

Cosmetic. It's just coincidence that some of my favourite forks have black stanchions.

:?

his favorite genitals also have black stanchions too lol

Clockworkmark31

I never bore of the replies, always creative.

But I am still :?

Fav forks have black stanchions, but this is a coincidence of my fav forks?

Talk about going around in circles

rockmonkeysc

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19774142#p19774142]POAH[/url] wrote:

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19774075#p19774075]Clockworkmark31[/url] wrote:

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19774067#p19774067]RockmonkeySC[/url] wrote:

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19774047#p19774047]Clockworkmark31[/url] wrote:

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19773019#p19773019]RockmonkeySC[/url] wrote:

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19772724#p19772724]cooldad[/url] wrote:

And black stanchions make any bike look like a BSO.

Except that some of the best forks have black stanchions.

So cosmetic or functional..... :?

Cosmetic. It's just coincidence that some of my favourite forks have black stanchions.

:?

his favorite genitals also have black stanchions too lol

Once you try black............










............You need a wheelchair.

cooldad

To return to sensible replies, my speciality.

He's saying the coating, whether black or gold, makes no difference, but some very good forks have black stanchions.

Clockworkmark31

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19774156#p19774156]cooldad[/url] wrote:

To return to sensible replies, my speciality.

He's saying the coating, whether black or gold, makes no difference, but some very good forks have black stanchions.

So is black better....or marketing haha.

buddy_club

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19774161#p19774161]Clockworkmark31[/url] wrote:

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19774156#p19774156]cooldad[/url] wrote:

To return to sensible replies, my speciality.

He's saying the coating, whether black or gold, makes no difference, but some very good forks have black stanchions.

So is black better....or marketing haha.

The black stanchions don't make the forks good, the forks are good - and they have black stanchions. Its marketing. Same as my favourite bike might be red, but its not a really good bike just because its red....

(but red is fastest)

poah

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19774161#p19774161]Clockworkmark31[/url] wrote:

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19774156#p19774156]cooldad[/url] wrote:

To return to sensible replies, my speciality.

He's saying the coating, whether black or gold, makes no difference, but some very good forks have black stanchions.

So is black better....or marketing haha.

looks better, silver stanchions look cheap.

eric_draven

POAH wrote:

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cooldad[/url]"]To return to sensible replies, my speciality.

He's saying the coating, whether black or gold, makes no difference, but some very good forks have black stanchions.

So is black better....or marketing haha.

looks better, silver stanchions look cheap.

Agree about silver stanchions,they look nasty,it's what has put me off Marzocchi of the last few years,may be decent for but they look horrible
Would like to try a pair of Ohlins forks at some point,rode a GSXR1000K7 a few years back with Ohlins both ends,and was impressed no end how nice it felt

codfather

The colour isn't important, its the material and technique of coating that makes a difference.
Silver stanchions look cheap because they are cheap; they're usually just untreated stainless.
Equally, some black coatings, like Fast Black work well, others like the black on my old Super Ts are terrible

The Rookie

Silver are usually chromed mild steel, stainless is too expensive, that's why they rust!

Anodizing is not strictly a coating, its a chemical reaction with the top layer of metal (aluminium usually).

codfather

Chromed, not stainless. My mistake.
Quite right, anodising is not coating, but Fast Black is.
I was attempting to draw a distinction between the colour of the stanchions and the manner in which the finish is applied. Hence saying that anodised black stanchions on old Marz's and Fast Black coated on RS do not perform the same and this has nothing to do with the colours chosen.

mattyfez

I'm no scientist but I'd suggest the quality of the metal is more relevant than what colour it is.

But what do I know.

rockmonkeysc

Not if a low friction coating is used. Then the quality of metal mainly. effects flex not suspension action.

The Rookie

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19774574#p19774574]Codfather[/url] wrote:

Chromed, not stainless. My mistake.
Quite right, anodising is not coating, but Fast Black is.
I was attempting to draw a distinction between the colour of the stanchions and the manner in which the finish is applied.

Agree, fast black and kashima are coatings, most forks are anodized which is not.

I'm not a good enough rider to need any fancy coatings!

Chunkers1980

You mean not many come second hand yet.

The Rookie

There is that as well!

I paid over £50 (with delivery) for my SID's I'll have you know!