Oops! - I'll be one of those slow guys on a fancy bike!!!
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It's just that I'm not terribly fast and it's a pretty fancy looking bike.
You have successfully described 99.9% of all triathletes. Congrats.English Cycles V3 | Cervelo P5 | Cervelo T4 | Trek Domane Koppenberg0 -
Yes, professional cyclists do sometimes use road bikes on time trials with hills, and as the OP said in response to my post, they sometime change in the middle of a time trial from a TT bike to a road bike.[quote="Ai_1"
Interesting as I notice that pros sometimes revert to normal road bikes in longer time trials with hills, but good luck to you in your Ironman. Just out of interest whereabouts in Austria?
I assume you are not that slow if you are capable of doing an Ironman. Again, just out of interest, what sort of time would you be aiming for on the bike for 112 miles?
No they don't. The only time you see Pros using road bikes is on a really technical bike course - like Ironman France. Quite a few hairpin bends there and a fair amount of climbing - so the aero bike isn't as advantageous - but even there I'd say road bikes for pros is in the minority.
And its in Klagenfurt - stunning place.0 -
It seems to have become awfully popular to tell people their bikes are horrible.What an absolute monstrosity.
I like this one and I don't care whether you do or not. Besides, bikes are functional machines not pieces of art. I'm an engineer and an aerodynamicist. As far as I'm concerned form should follow function. In the long run the "it doesn't look right" mob tend to change their minds anyway. They're just slow getting there.
If you need to critique bikes based purely on your subjective opinion of their appearance then feel free to start your own thread. You can call it "Bikes I don't like the look of".
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Yes, professional cyclists do sometimes use road bikes on time trials with hills, and as the OP said in response to my post, they sometime change in the middle of a time trial from a TT bike to a road bike.[quote="Ai_1"
Interesting as I notice that pros sometimes revert to normal road bikes in longer time trials with hills, but good luck to you in your Ironman. Just out of interest whereabouts in Austria?
I assume you are not that slow if you are capable of doing an Ironman. Again, just out of interest, what sort of time would you be aiming for on the bike for 112 miles?
No they don't. The only time you see Pros using road bikes is on a really technical bike course - like Ironman France. Quite a few hairpin bends there and a fair amount of climbing - so the aero bike isn't as advantageous - but even there I'd say road bikes for pros is in the minority.
And its in Klagenfurt - stunning place.
No bike changes are allowed in triathlon though. And this is what the OP is talking about.0 -
It seems to have become awfully popular to tell people their bikes are horrible.What an absolute monstrosity.
I like this one and I don't care whether you do or not. Besides, bikes are functional machines not pieces of art. I'm an engineer and an aerodynamicist. As far as I'm concerned form should follow function. In the long run the "it doesn't look right" mob tend to change their minds anyway. They're just slow getting there.
If you need to critique bikes based purely on your subjective opinion of their appearance then feel free to start your own thread. You can call it "Bikes I don't like the look of".
Don't like public comment? Don't post on a public forum. The bike is ugly, if you're fine with that (and it sounds like you are) than enjoy. Who gives a shit what some random on a forum thinks anyway?
Also you were inviting opinions on it's looks by having a thread title containing 'fancy looking bike'.0 -
No, the bike is not ugly, you think the bike is ugly and others think it's not. It's not an objectively measurable quality. People will have negative perceptions about any bike. Doesn't mean they're all worth sharing.
It seems to have become awfully popular to tell people their bikes are horrible.What an absolute monstrosity.
I like this one and I don't care whether you do or not. Besides, bikes are functional machines not pieces of art. I'm an engineer and an aerodynamicist. As far as I'm concerned form should follow function. In the long run the "it doesn't look right" mob tend to change their minds anyway. They're just slow getting there.
If you need to critique bikes based purely on your subjective opinion of their appearance then feel free to start your own thread. You can call it "Bikes I don't like the look of".
Don't like public comment? Don't post on a public forum. The bike is ugly, if you're fine with that (and it sounds like you are) than enjoy. Who gives a shoot what some random on a forum thinks anyway?
Also you were inviting opinions on it's looks by having a thread title containing 'fancy looking bike'.
No, I don't care what you think. I do care that you bother telling me when your sole intention appears to be spreading unpleasantness.
Rationalise it whatever way you like, but you are simply being unpleasant.0 -
if your doing 31kph on a tricross for a 1/2 your not as slow as your making out.
its a bike designed to make you go faster and save your legs for the run, so whats not to like?
Good luck with your IM, training for one sport is hard enough...3 ? your crazy ! just get a good fit and train in that position but i guess you know that?
as for anyone trying to wind you up... they ve just got pen1$ envy lol!0 -
To be fair, it looks bl00dy horrible but as a fast bike, it'll be fantastic and it may help me get under the Big milestone of 20 mins for a 10. Therefore I'd love one.Insta: ATEnduranceCoaching
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Fair enough, I just thought 112 miles (6 hours) seemed a long time to be in that position on a pure TT bike, and compared it to Time Trails in pro cycling where pros sometimes use road bikes. It was the original poster who said "You may have seen some of the pros switching bikes if they think the gains from having the right bike for the right portion of the course will be greater than the loss by stopping for a switch.".
Yes, professional cyclists do sometimes use road bikes on time trials with hills, and as the OP said in response to my post, they sometime change in the middle of a time trial from a TT bike to a road bike.[quote="Ai_1"
Interesting as I notice that pros sometimes revert to normal road bikes in longer time trials with hills, but good luck to you in your Ironman. Just out of interest whereabouts in Austria?
I assume you are not that slow if you are capable of doing an Ironman. Again, just out of interest, what sort of time would you be aiming for on the bike for 112 miles?
No they don't. The only time you see Pros using road bikes is on a really technical bike course - like Ironman France. Quite a few hairpin bends there and a fair amount of climbing - so the aero bike isn't as advantageous - but even there I'd say road bikes for pros is in the minority.
And its in Klagenfurt - stunning place.
No bike changes are allowed in triathlon though. And this is what the OP is talking about.0 -
To be fair, it looks bl00dy horrible but as a fast bike, it'll be fantastic and it may help me get under the Big milestone of 20 mins for a 10. Therefore I'd love one.
TBH it probably wouldn't as the IA is best at higher yaw. Get a P4 if you want to go sub 20.
Fair enough, I just thought 112 miles (6 hours) seemed a long time to be in that position on a pure TT bike, and compared it to Time Trails in pro cycling where pros sometimes use road bikes. It was the original poster who said "You may have seen some of the pros switching bikes if they think the gains from having the right bike for the right portion of the course will be greater than the loss by stopping for a switch.".
12 hours on a TT bike is fine. 6 hours is a breeze, although I wouldn't hang around that long for 112 miles!English Cycles V3 | Cervelo P5 | Cervelo T4 | Trek Domane Koppenberg0 -
Fast-looking machine. With some aero wheels, you'll be praying that there's no cross-winds
Cross winds may be an issue even without deep section wheel. I have 80mm wheels on my bike and gusts are certainly an issue and can be quite dangerous. I personally like the op bike.0 -
Depends how heavy you are. On a TT bike on a windy day the front wheel plays a big role. For an average rider, lets say 73kg, you shouldn't go higher than 60mm front wheel. Back doesn't matter. You could have a disc on the back in a hurricane and you wouldn't feel it. But having too deep in the front you loos a lot of energy fighting with the bike and not crashing.
If you did a 31km/h average on a road bike, even with clip on bars, you should be doing around 33 on a proper TT bike. And yes, it's a lot easier to be in the position on the TT bike that on a road bike provided that the position is set up correctly. One thing is the aero advantage that you get which makes a huge difference over 112 mils. The other thing is the position (non UCI legal) that lets you get forwards enough and pedal with the heel up and really get the power down.0 -
relk wrote:For an average rider, lets say 73kg, you shouldn't go higher than 60mm front wheel.
Not true at all.0 -
I've been riding this bike a few months now so I thought I'd give a quick update.
I like this bike. It's not perfect but it's good. I have only two real niggles. One is that the storage compartment ("Calpac") behind the stem is poorly designed. It's a bit on the small side and the cover neither stays in place very well nor provides good access. Felt say they're going to produce a retro-fittable update to address this (it seems to be a universal complaint). Second is that the 52/38 chainset isn't ideal for me. On long courses with steep climbs I'd be better off with a smaller chainring. I was originally planning to switch the 38 for a 36 but haven't gotten around to it and I'm out of time. I've done lots of mountain rides in training that are as steep and longer than the climbs in the race, so while not ideal, it's not a showstopper.
I've been riding quite a bit on my Swiss Side Hadron wheels including some breezy days. As I mentioned previously in the thread, I had no experience with deep sections but I've been very happy with these so far. I think these are noisier than most but that doesn't bother me, maybe I even like it! Neither the side area of the bike nor the wheels have caused any problems. I haven't had occasion to ride in really windy weather but from my experience on exposed roads in moderately windy and gusty weather I'm not really concerned. In retrospect I'm sure I would have been fine with an 80mm front wheel but the 62.5mm front/85mm rear combo works very well, looks pretty good on the bike and gives up very little in terms of performance so I've no regrets.
After some position tweaking I've swapped the stock medium length S-bend extensions for some longer L bend bars and I'm now very comfortable for the first few hours in the saddle. However, my neck and shoulders have been bothering me a bit on longer rides. Because of that, I've kept my position fairly conservative and haven't tried to lower the bars for a more aerodynamic position. I can whip out some or all of the pedestal spacers later for sprint and Olympic distance races. I'm very glad I went with something that could accommodate a broad range of heights.
The bike's on it's way to Austria now. It should be waiting for me when I get there in a few days for my race on Sunday.0 -
Nice, good luck on Sunday and enjoy the race!0
