Oops! - I'll be one of those slow guys on a fancy bike!!!

ai_1
ai_1 Posts: 3,060
edited June 2016 in Road general
I ordered a Felt IA14 a couple of months back when I saw one at a great price and hadn't decided what sort of tri bike I wanted yet. I would have the option to cancel it until it shipped and the predicted availability date wasn't until mid January. I've changed my mind back and forth several times about getting this or something more restrained (A Felt B12 or B14 being most likely). Last week I found a B12 going for €2000 and had pretty much decided to cancel the IA14 and go for this. The following morning before I'd acted on this decision I got an email telling me my IA14 order had been processed and the bike was on the way. :shock:
Of course I could still return it but with a significant cost and inconvenience. I'll probably keep it.

I have no doubt the IA14 will be a great bike. It's just that I'm not terribly fast and it's a pretty fancy looking bike. I suspect I shall be mocked mercilessly... Oh well.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    ...that seat tube tho :shock:
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    Nice looking bike.

    You could always do the training to be a fast guy on a fast bike ? ;-)

    Enjoy.
  • Bobbinogs
    Bobbinogs Posts: 4,841
    Nowt wrong with buying a nice bike. Hell, if purchases were based on performance then Wiggle would go out of business by the end of the week.

    Enjoy it. Slow guys can usually go quicker in big chunks fairly easily... whereas fast guys are just left to agonise over the minor percentages. Learn to laugh in the face of their suffering.
  • ai_1
    ai_1 Posts: 3,060
    ...that seat tube tho :shock:
    I'm not sure the word "tube" works when it's that flat. Shall we call it the seat member? :lol:
    Fenix wrote:
    Nice looking bike.

    You could always do the training to be a fast guy on a fast bike ? ;-)

    Enjoy.
    That's the plan but I'm not sure how much of an increase is realistic! I've 6 months of hard training just started for an Ironman in June. We'll see how it goes...

    Anyone want to give me €3000 for a second hand 2009 Specialised Tricross Sport Triple with Tiagra and Fulcrum Racing 7s? Size 56. I replaced the chainset last winter so it's a great deal! :wink:
  • Fast-looking machine. With some aero wheels, you'll be praying that there's no cross-winds :wink:
    ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH
  • No offense but that bike looks hideous......imo of course
  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    No offense but that bike looks hideous......imo of course


    Why bother chipping in then ? You'd nothing constructive to say ? (No offence) ;-)
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    Actually, I think my clubmate has that bike in full black for Ironmans and it doesnt look so bad in real life (he is chuffing fast though)
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Looks very fast. Sort yourself a good skinsuit and helmet and have at it!
  • john1967
    john1967 Posts: 366
    If your planning on timetrials or triathlon then this is great option.
  • ai_1
    ai_1 Posts: 3,060
    Thanks for the positive comments guys!
    Fast-looking machine. With some aero wheels, you'll be praying that there's no cross-winds :wink:
    I've got a set of Swiss Side Hadrons on order. 85mm for the back 62.5mm for the front. I've no experience with deep section wheels or a bike with massive side area so this should be interesting! :D
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    No you won't - you'll like like a bloke having brilliant time on a brilliant bike that he worked his backside off for that is better than 99% of the naysayers/mockers because he got off his backside and is actually out there doing it.

    I'd be worried about the smile on your face slowing you down than a bit of poxy wind.

    Have a brilliant time, train hard, enjoy lots and keep us updated.

    M
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • here it is with Yodel delivery..

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  • ai_1
    ai_1 Posts: 3,060
    No offense but that bike looks hideous......imo of course
    It's okay, you're wrong so I shall just ignore you :wink:
  • No offense but that bike looks hideous......imo of course

    I concur. If it was an animal the humane thing to do would be to put it down.
  • ...that seat tube tho :shock:

    Just once you will need to ride that in a hoody and tracksuit trousers that doley teenagers love wearing. Or better yet, a santa suit.
  • ai_1
    ai_1 Posts: 3,060
    ...that seat tube tho :shock:

    Just once you will need to ride that in a hoody and tracksuit trousers that doley teenagers love wearing. Or better yet, a santa suit.
    You've lost me :?
  • CiB
    CiB Posts: 6,098
    ...that seat tube tho :shock:

    Just once you will need to ride that in a hoody and tracksuit trousers that doley teenagers love wearing. Or better yet, a santa suit.
    Did you watch it then? BBC East Midlands Today last night (Mon) had a report of the Santa charity bike ride around Burbage, a whole flock of blokes on bikes in Father Christmas suits doing 15 miles for charity.

    http://www.keepthebeat.co.uk/site/events/2015-santa-ride - feel free to donate.

    East Mids Today is on Sky 960, if you don't have the fortune to live in the region but fancy keeping tabs on things like the Premier League leaders etc.
  • ForumNewbie
    ForumNewbie Posts: 1,664
    ...that seat tube tho :shock:
    I'm not sure the word "tube" works when it's that flat. Shall we call it the seat member? :lol:
    Fenix wrote:
    Nice looking bike.

    You could always do the training to be a fast guy on a fast bike ? ;-)

    Enjoy.
    That's the plan but I'm not sure how much of an increase is realistic! I've 6 months of hard training just started for an Ironman in June. We'll see how it goes...
    I'm no expert, but just wondering if that is the right type of bike for an Ironman event which is 112 miles of cycling. I'm not sure how comfortable a Time Trial bike would be over that sort of distance?
  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    If you set it up right and practice on it - then it'll be fine.

    You do see a fair amount of people sat up on their bikes though and their tri bars are nothing more than fashion accessories.

    At the front end - everyones on very low TT bikes. At the back end - anything goes.

    Which IM is it ?
  • ai_1
    ai_1 Posts: 3,060
    ...that seat tube tho :shock:
    I'm not sure the word "tube" works when it's that flat. Shall we call it the seat member? :lol:
    Fenix wrote:
    Nice looking bike.

    You could always do the training to be a fast guy on a fast bike ? ;-)

    Enjoy.
    That's the plan but I'm not sure how much of an increase is realistic! I've 6 months of hard training just started for an Ironman in June. We'll see how it goes...
    I'm no expert, but just wondering if that is the right type of bike for an Ironman event which is 112 miles of cycling. I'm not sure how comfortable a Time Trial bike would be over that sort of distance?
    Yep, it should be fine for an Ironman. It shouldn't really be any less comfortable than any other tri bike if it's set up right. I've already done half distance entirely on tri-bars and could have stayed in that position for longer. I still have six months to adapt to the longer distance. I do agree that a lot of people seem to use aggressive positions that they cannot then maintain so they sit up and probably end up slower than if they used a road bike. I won't be doing that. One of the main reasons the Felt B14, B12 and IA14 were top of my list is that the bayonet 3 cockpit provides for lots of bar adjustability so I can start with something suitable for IM and go more aggressive later if I do lots of shorter races, as I suspect I will.
  • ai_1
    ai_1 Posts: 3,060
    If you set it up right and practice on it - then it'll be fine.

    You do see a fair amount of people sat up on their bikes though and their tri bars are nothing more than fashion accessories.

    At the front end - everyones on very low TT bikes. At the back end - anything goes.

    Which IM is it ?

    I did Ironman 70.3 Dublin this year on my Specialized Tricross Sport with clip-on tri bars and a forward offset seat post. My position was probably less aggressive than most but I stayed in it for the entire bike leg except for one short steep climb and a few sharp corners. It would use nearly all the extension risers available but the Felt will allow me use the same position again if necessary - however, I think I can do better :wink: .

    I'm doing Austria in June. It's a reasonably fast bike route I think. A couple of steep climbs and lots of shallow descending from what I've heard.
  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    Austria - good choice. Nice road surface too. No major long climbs - but second time round those steep ones really do take it out of you. Some nice fast descents too. North of 40mph easily.
  • ForumNewbie
    ForumNewbie Posts: 1,664
    If you set it up right and practice on it - then it'll be fine.

    You do see a fair amount of people sat up on their bikes though and their tri bars are nothing more than fashion accessories.

    At the front end - everyones on very low TT bikes. At the back end - anything goes.

    Which IM is it ?

    I did Ironman 70.3 Dublin this year on my Specialized Tricross Sport with clip-on tri bars and a forward offset seat post. My position was probably less aggressive than most but I stayed in it for the entire bike leg except for one short steep climb and a few sharp corners. It would use nearly all the extension risers available but the Felt will allow me use the same position again if necessary - however, I think I can do better :wink: .

    I'm doing Austria in June. It's a reasonably fast bike route I think. A couple of steep climbs and lots of shallow descending from what I've heard.
    Interesting as I notice that pros sometimes revert to normal road bikes in longer time trials with hills, but good luck to you in your Ironman. Just out of interest whereabouts in Austria?

    I assume you are not that slow if you are capable of doing an Ironman. Again, just out of interest, what sort of time would you be aiming for on the bike for 112 miles?
  • ai_1
    ai_1 Posts: 3,060
    If you set it up right and practice on it - then it'll be fine.

    You do see a fair amount of people sat up on their bikes though and their tri bars are nothing more than fashion accessories.

    At the front end - everyones on very low TT bikes. At the back end - anything goes.

    Which IM is it ?

    I did Ironman 70.3 Dublin this year on my Specialized Tricross Sport with clip-on tri bars and a forward offset seat post. My position was probably less aggressive than most but I stayed in it for the entire bike leg except for one short steep climb and a few sharp corners. It would use nearly all the extension risers available but the Felt will allow me use the same position again if necessary - however, I think I can do better :wink: .

    I'm doing Austria in June. It's a reasonably fast bike route I think. A couple of steep climbs and lots of shallow descending from what I've heard.
    Interesting as I notice that pros sometimes revert to normal road bikes in longer time trials with hills, but good luck to you in your Ironman. Just out of interest whereabouts in Austria?

    I assume you are not that slow if you are capable of doing an Ironman. Again, just out of interest, what sort of time would you be aiming for on the bike for 112 miles?
    Pro cyclists sometimes revert to road bikes but it's more about the steepness of the hills rather than the distance. Unless there@s serious climbing involved the gains on flatter sections will outweigh losses on the climbs. You may have seen some of the pros switching bikes if they think the gains from having the right bike for the right portion of the course will be greater than the loss by stopping for a switch.

    Ironman Austria starts and finishes in Klaggenfurt. I averaged 31km/h in my half distance race this year and was in good shape for the 21km run. To be fair, that was a pretty flat course but on the other hand my training left a lot to be desired due to a lot of distractions in the lead up with working long hours and travelling. Also my position was very conservative and even though I'm doubling the distance I can probably adapt to a more aggressive position in the next 6 months. I don't have a specific target for the Ironman as yet but I think it'll be somewhere between 28.5 and 31km/h. However it also depends how conservative I decide to take it. While you want to be fast on the bike, it's perhaps more important to finish the bike leg in good shape to run the marathon. No point going 30 mins faster on the bike if it results in you having to walk half the marathon and lose 2hrs, and that does happen. I'll intend to prioritise my cycling training so that I can pitch my effort level fairly conservatively and still go reasonably quick (for me). The pros can do the bike leg in around 4hrs, I'll be very happy if I can get under 6hrs for my first one.
    I have a notional target of 12.5hrs for the full race but I've never done one before so it's just an educated guess.

    Incidentally, I'm not getting this bike specifically for Ironman. It'll probably get most use in shorter races, especially Olympic distance. However it is perfectly well suited to Ironman distances.
  • SoSimple
    SoSimple Posts: 301
    East Mids Today is on Sky 960, if you don't have the fortune to live in the region but fancy keeping tabs on things like the Premier League leaders etc.

    I like what you did there - enjoy the moment!
  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    [quote="Ai_1"
    Interesting as I notice that pros sometimes revert to normal road bikes in longer time trials with hills, but good luck to you in your Ironman. Just out of interest whereabouts in Austria?

    I assume you are not that slow if you are capable of doing an Ironman. Again, just out of interest, what sort of time would you be aiming for on the bike for 112 miles?

    No they don't. The only time you see Pros using road bikes is on a really technical bike course - like Ironman France. Quite a few hairpin bends there and a fair amount of climbing - so the aero bike isn't as advantageous - but even there I'd say road bikes for pros is in the minority.

    And its in Klagenfurt - stunning place.
  • DavidJB
    DavidJB Posts: 2,019
    What an absolute monstrosity.
  • ai_1
    ai_1 Posts: 3,060
    What an absolute monstrosity.
    It seems to have become awfully popular to tell people their bikes are horrible.
    I like this one and I don't care whether you do or not. Besides, bikes are functional machines not pieces of art. I'm an engineer and an aerodynamicist. As far as I'm concerned form should follow function. In the long run the "it doesn't look right" mob tend to change their minds anyway. They're just slow getting there.

    If you need to critique bikes based purely on your subjective opinion of their appearance then feel free to start your own thread. You can call it "Bikes I don't like the look of".