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So, trumps plans for the 737 max are covert the interior to a water tank. Great new feature!0
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Rolf F wrote:Step83 wrote:So, trumps plans for the 737 max are covert the interior to a water tank. Great new feature!
With all that water sloshing around in it, lets hope that the 737 Max has great stall control software.......
Sorry they only added great new features, nothing else, remaining funds went on big macs and a wall0 -
Looks like the Mueller report wasn't that great after all:Instead of the "total exoneration" Trump had proclaimed earlier, the report portrayed the President as deceitful and paranoid, encouraging his aides to withhold the truth and cross ethical lines in an attempt to thwart a probe into Russia's interference in US elections -- his "Achilles heel," according to one forthcoming adviser.
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Trump grew angry as he watched cable news coverage because, sources familiar with the matter said, a theme was emerging that vexed him: a portrait of a dishonest president who is regularly managed, restrained or ignored by his staff.
It was a sharp turn away from his earlier statements, which welcomed the report's findings on collusion and falsely claimed total exoneration. Hours before his Mar-a-Lago dinner, Trump insisted to a crowd on the tarmac in Florida the dark days of Mueller's special counsel investigation had ended.
I guess he thought 'deceitful and paranoid' was 'presidential'. Now he has been told it's not.
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Interesting article in the ny times about the use of the word collusion. Reflexive control is a “uniquely Russian” technique of psychological manipulation through disinformation. The idea is to feed your adversary a set of assumptions that will produce a predictable response: That response, in turn, furthers a goal that advances your interests. By luring your opponent into agreeing with your initial assumptions, you can control the narrative, and ultimate outcome, in your favor. Best of all, the outcome is one in which your adversary has voluntarily acceded. This is exactly what has happened with much of the American public in the course of Mueller’s investigation.
The assumptions that culminated in Mr. Barr’s conclusions began almost two years ago, when the White House, Trump supporters and the media characterized the focus of the special counsel’s investigation as “collusion.” The word “collusion” does not appear anywhere in Mr. Mueller’s appointment letter: His mandate was to investigate any “links and/or coordination” between the Trump campaign and Russia. There is a good reason for this: “Collusion” is the legal equivalent of Jell-O. Outside of specific factual contexts — such as price fixing in antitrust law — the word “collusion” has no legal meaning or significance. In fact, in his report, Mr. Mueller explicitly stated that his conclusions were not about collusion, “which is not a specific offense or theory of liability found in the United States code.”
The Trump administration seized on this legal ambiguity early on, with the refrain that “collusion is not a crime.” The standard set here is that anything falling below criminally chargeable behavior is acceptable. When it comes to the presidency, this is not true. The Constitution lays out the procedure for removing an unfit president from office for “treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.”
Nevertheless, we took the bait: Collusion may not be a crime, lawyers and pundits responded, but conspiracy is. This “reflexive” response adopted criminality as the bar to be met.All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....0 -
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So let's get this straight. During his "state" visit Trump won't be able to stay at Buckingham Palace because the Queen's got the plasterers in? And he won't be riding in a carriage up the Mall or addressing either of the houses? What's the betting he turns up at Buck House and discovers that she's gone to Balmoral for the weekend.......Faster than a tent.......0
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The report is very carefully worded. Mueller says collusion is not something they consider as it can't be defined. Coordination with the Russian government is not proven, because there is not sufficient evidence. By coordination, he means more than both sides working with a tacit understanding that they are working towards the same end. But he finds multiple links between the Trump campaign and Russia.
But the obstruction or attempted obstruction of the report is scandalous as well, given that it found so many ways in which Russia interfered. It's as if his campaign wants it all to happen again...0 -
Trump wrote:I didn’t call Bob Costa of the Washington Post, he called me (Returned his call)! Just more Fake News.
That's good, even for him. I didn't call him, I returned his call. Conveys a lack of understanding of what calling someone means, a pettiness and an acknowledgment that he really does crave the attention of the Washington Post. All in 19 words.0 -
Rod Rosenstein has at last recused himself when it is too late.
See him in the back row there? I think the little squirt just goosed Hillary.0 -
If you haven't seen any of the Barr session in the Senate Judiciary committee today, it's jaw-dropping. The AG is doing a full-on defending Trump act, rather than being the AG. Kamala Harris had a good few minutes, but it seems to have got to the stage where Trump and his defenders are flouting the constitution baldly, and as yet, no-one's managed to stop them. Barr has now said he won't appear in front of the House Juudiciary committee tomorrow, and Trump is refusing to supply any records at all to any committees. At the moment, the constitution is unravelling a little more very day.
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briantrumpet wrote:If you haven't seen any of the Barr session in the Senate Judiciary committee today, it's jaw-dropping. The AG is doing a full-on defending Trump act, rather than being the AG. Kamala Harris had a good few minutes, but it seems to have got to the stage where Trump and his defenders are flouting the constitution baldly, and as yet, no-one's managed to stop them. Barr has now said he won't appear in front of the House Juudiciary committee tomorrow, and Trump is refusing to supply any records at all to any committees. At the moment, the constitution is unravelling a little more very day.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1123662318930399233
James Comey explains how we got here:It starts with your sitting silent while he lies, both in public and private, making you complicit by your silence. In meetings with him, his assertions about what “everyone thinks” and what is “obviously true” wash over you, unchallenged, as they did at our private dinner on Jan. 27, 2017, because he’s the president and he rarely stops talking. As a result, Mr. Trump pulls all of those present into a silent circle of assent.
Speaking rapid-fire with no spot for others to jump into the conversation, Mr. Trump makes everyone a co-conspirator to his preferred set of facts, or delusions. I have felt it — this president building with his words a web of alternative reality and busily wrapping it around all of us in the room.
I must have agreed that he had the largest inauguration crowd in history because I didn’t challenge that. Everyone must agree that he has been treated very unfairly. The web building never stops.
From the private circle of assent, it moves to public displays of personal fealty at places like cabinet meetings. While the entire world is watching, you do what everyone else around the table does — you talk about how amazing the leader is and what an honor it is to be associated with him.
Next comes Mr. Trump attacking institutions and values you hold dear — things you have always said must be protected and which you criticized past leaders for not supporting strongly enough. Yet you are silent. Because, after all, what are you supposed to say? He’s the president of the United States.
You feel this happening. It bothers you, at least to some extent. But his outrageous conduct convinces you that you simply must stay, to preserve and protect the people and institutions and values you hold dear. Along with Republican members of Congress, you tell yourself you are too important for this nation to lose, especially now.
You can’t say this out loud — maybe not even to your family — but in a time of emergency, with the nation led by a deeply unethical person, this will be your contribution, your personal sacrifice for America. You are smarter than Donald Trump, and you are playing a long game for your country, so you can pull it off where lesser leaders have failed and gotten fired by tweet.
Of course, to stay, you must be seen as on his team, so you make further compromises. You use his language, praise his leadership, tout his commitment to values.
And then you are lost. He has eaten your soul.
Q.E.D:
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But still the morons who voted for him (despite knowing that he is a serial liar) will continue to be morons and there's at least a decent chance that he will get re-elected.Cannondale Synapse Carbon Ultegra
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I'm starting to fear for the US. Latest news is that the White House think that they can stop a private citizen (McGahn) from testifying to Congress, whilst at the same time refusing to follow the law in supplying Trump's tax returns (Mnuchin) and ignoring the Judiciary Oversight subpoena for the unredacted Mueller report (Barr).
The underlying tactic seems to be to stop a Democrat-controlled Congress from doing its job of oversight and holding the WH accountable for its actions. If Congress doesn't show its teeth and use every power it has to fulfil its role, democracy in the US is screwed.0 -
briantrumpet wrote:I'm starting to fear for the US...
Really there are at least two USAs as evidenced by the Civil War. FDR had plenty of opposition to fight in order to declare war on fascism. People like Charles Lindbergh most memorably.
In a sense our own political chaos is part of the same scene as people forget the lesson learnt from last century and line up to repeat the same folly motivated by a strong sense of grievance and entitlement.
Opponents of Trump simply aren't tough enough. It's not a joke and if Trump is a senile imbecile then how come he's constantly a step or two ahead of the opposition? It's not simply that he is ruthlessly amoral, he also has rat-like cunning and knows how pander to supporters.
That's how dictators get the job.0 -
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... taxes.html
"in 1985, Mr. Trump reported losses of $46.1 million from his core businesses — largely casinos, hotels and retail space in apartment buildings. They continued to lose money every year, totaling $1.17 billion in losses for the decade.
In fact, year after year, Mr. Trump appears to have lost more money than nearly any other individual American taxpayer, ... His core business losses in 1990 and 1991 — more than $250 million each year — were more than double those of the nearest taxpayers in the I.R.S. information for those years."0 -
Trump really is going full-on Nixon, now claiming Executive Privilege over the unredacted Mueller report and all associated evidence. Curious, as he said the report totally exonerated him.
A real constitutional crisis looms even larger, as he tries to write the House of Representatives out of doing its constitutional job. Those pesky Democrats...0 -
KingstonGraham wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/05/07/us/politics/donald-trump-taxes.html
"in 1985, Mr. Trump reported losses of $46.1 million from his core businesses — largely casinos, hotels and retail space in apartment buildings. They continued to lose money every year, totaling $1.17 billion in losses for the decade.
In fact, year after year, Mr. Trump appears to have lost more money than nearly any other individual American taxpayer, ... His core business losses in 1990 and 1991 — more than $250 million each year — were more than double those of the nearest taxpayers in the I.R.S. information for those years."
Apparently he lost the money deliberately in order not to pay taxes. I expect SteveO will be able to explain how that works.
My theory is that he just lost it because he's simply incompetent. His desperate attempts to avoid revealing his tax affairs for the years afterwards are because they would show a pattern of fraud and money laundering of gargantuan proportions.
The bald facts concerning his current activities, disregarding any media hype, suggest that the USA is now facing its biggest threat since Pearl Harbour, this time in the shape of its very own president and his supporters.
I believe he is visiting us on the 3rd June. God Save the Queen.0 -
I would not worry about the queen. She is adept at looking interested whilst people talk bollocks to her. Just another day to her.0
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Junior now has subpoena no2 - that should put Trump in meltdown mode...0
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Meanwhile, der Trumpfen is creating the perfect environment for the Iranians to start enriching plutonium again.
He is clever this bloke.
Create an enemy. The US has always had and always needed an enemy.
Kim Jong Un is flitting about between China and South Korea where Trump pulled out inexplicably at the last moment. So future trade and contracts will go to China and Korea.
He is clever this bloke.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
Robert88 wrote:KingstonGraham wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/05/07/us/politics/donald-trump-taxes.html
"in 1985, Mr. Trump reported losses of $46.1 million from his core businesses — largely casinos, hotels and retail space in apartment buildings. They continued to lose money every year, totaling $1.17 billion in losses for the decade.
In fact, year after year, Mr. Trump appears to have lost more money than nearly any other individual American taxpayer, ... His core business losses in 1990 and 1991 — more than $250 million each year — were more than double those of the nearest taxpayers in the I.R.S. information for those years."
Apparently he lost the money deliberately in order not to pay taxes. I expect SteveO will be able to explain how that works.
My theory is that he just lost it because he's simply incompetent. His desperate attempts to avoid revealing his tax affairs for the years afterwards are because they would show a pattern of fraud and money laundering of gargantuan proportions.
The bald facts concerning his current activities, disregarding any media hype, suggest that the USA is now facing its biggest threat since Pearl Harbour, this time in the shape of its very own president and his supporters.
I believe he is visiting us on the 3rd June. God Save the Queen.
And her fascist regime?Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
They made her a moron...0
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Matthewfalle wrote:Robert88 wrote:KingstonGraham wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/05/07/us/politics/donald-trump-taxes.html
"in 1985, Mr. Trump reported losses of $46.1 million from his core businesses — largely casinos, hotels and retail space in apartment buildings. They continued to lose money every year, totaling $1.17 billion in losses for the decade.
In fact, year after year, Mr. Trump appears to have lost more money than nearly any other individual American taxpayer, ... His core business losses in 1990 and 1991 — more than $250 million each year — were more than double those of the nearest taxpayers in the I.R.S. information for those years."
Apparently he lost the money deliberately in order not to pay taxes. I expect SteveO will be able to explain how that works.
My theory is that he just lost it because he's simply incompetent. His desperate attempts to avoid revealing his tax affairs for the years afterwards are because they would show a pattern of fraud and money laundering of gargantuan proportions.
The bald facts concerning his current activities, disregarding any media hype, suggest that the USA is now facing its biggest threat since Pearl Harbour, this time in the shape of its very own president and his supporters.
I believe he is visiting us on the 3rd June. God Save the Queen.
And her fascist regime?
Hmmm..
Maybe they will get on ok after all..0 -
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He has grabbed that p*ssy too! I heard it on a live mic once. Honest!
Sorry! That was inappropriate. But I'll leave it up anyway.0 -
Looks like John Bolton might get his way and sway Trump to have a 're-election' war with Iran! Pompeo just cancelled a trip to Russia. Instead he will meet with European 'allies' about Iran, wouldn't be surprised to hear the Trump family have bought more shares in Lockeed Martin in preparation.All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....0
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Looks like the Saudi's are ramping it up as well. Not specifically blaming Iran, but I think we know where this is leading, China retaliating with trade tariffs and US markets falling makes it more likely that a diversion is needed?BEIRUT — Two Saudi oil tankers have been attacked and damaged in coastal waters near the Persian Gulf, the Saudi Foreign Ministry said Monday, further heightening tensions with Iran.All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....0 -
Trump Obstructed Justice And Would've Been Charged if he Weren't President, Comey On CNN Townhall 9 May
Interesting interview of Comey. Trump summed up at 39:00. The 'silent circle of assent'; Rosenstein trapped.
Rosenstein calls Comey a 'partisan pundit' in revealing speech 14 May"Now the former director seems to be acting as a partisan pundit, selling books and earning speaking fees while speculating about the strength of my character and the fate of my immortal soul. I kid you not. That is disappointing,"
Interesting contrast in styles, too.0 -
Dumps meltdown with Schumer and Pelosi yesterday was epic even by his own standards, "refusing to do any more work till they stop investigating Donald Trump, probably the most transparent president in history, I don't do cover ups as I'm sure the assembled press will agree"
In his own words.All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....0
