Wow, some cyclists I tell you....
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http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/baby-sprayed-with-glass-after-cyclist-smashes-car-window-with-bike-lock-a3094726.html
Hope the baby is ok...
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Hope the baby is ok...
Also, the link above is work safe!!
I ride with God on my mind and power in my thighs....WOE betide you!
I know I'm not the fastest rider on earth BUT I KNOW I AM NOT the slowest!!!
If you Jump Red Lights in order to stay ahead you are a DISGRACE!!
I know I'm not the fastest rider on earth BUT I KNOW I AM NOT the slowest!!!
If you Jump Red Lights in order to stay ahead you are a DISGRACE!!
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The cyclist had hit our car with his hand earlier on the passenger side, the only reason I could think he did this, is he possibly felt he didn't have enough room to get through.
That'd have to be one hell of an angry cyclist - so why do I get the feeling that there's more to the story than just this ?
but then - anyone smashing glass over my 4mo wouldn't now be in any fit state to give a police statement ...0 -
So what was the baby doing in the back of the car whilst this guy was learning to drive?You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quin.0
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Doing that with a baby in the car is not clever.
No matter how wound up you are, it is better to let things like that go when there are kids about.0 -
ftfy[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19726427#p19726427]Snakebite the 2nd[/url] wrote:Doing that is not clever.
No matter how wound up you are, it is better to let things like that go.Pannier, 120rpm.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19726427#p19726427]Snakebite the 2nd[/url] wrote:Doing that is not clever.
No matter how wound up you are, it is better to let things like that go. Unless you can be sure of leaving no witnesses.0 -
I made the very bad mistake of commenting on the Croydon Advertisers Facebook page yesterday. Although I have had over 300 likes, I have also had death threats!!! Its my fault, I come from Croydon, I should've known...
In my defence, at the time there were only a handful of posts at the time, it'd not gone viral yet... ...and the posts were all knuckle draggers, threatening furious vengeance on the next cyclist they saw.0 -
I made the very bad mistake of commenting on the Croydon Advertisers Facebook page yesterday. Although I have had over 300 likes, I have also had death threats!!! Its my fault, I come from Croydon, I should've known...
In my defence, at the time there were only a handful of posts at the time, it'd not gone viral yet... ...and the posts were all knuckle draggers, threatening furious vengeance on the next cyclist they saw.
people, eh?!
what did your comment say?www.conjunctivitis.com - a site for sore eyes0 -
I made the very bad mistake of commenting on the Croydon Advertisers Facebook page yesterday. Although I have had over 300 likes, I have also had death threats!!! Its my fault, I come from Croydon, I should've known...
In my defence, at the time there were only a handful of posts at the time, it'd not gone viral yet... ...and the posts were all knuckle draggers, threatening furious vengeance on the next cyclist they saw.
people, eh?!
what did your comment say?Hey - less of the cyclist hating and irrational death threat nonsense please. He almost certainly NOT going to take that route again tomorrow, so don't go all vigilante on the first guy in his 30s with long hair.
What he did was terrible, but I'm guessing he didn't know there was a child in the car, and that whatever the learner driver did must've angered him.
Yes learners can have passengers, including children.
BTW - If it were me, I'd have checked my baby was OK, before taking a photo of him/her covered in broken glass. Your priorities are questionable.
With hindsight I obviously shouldn't have said that last bit, but I reckon I'd have still got the abuse anyway. I did hold back from saying that I found the whole story ludicrous, its obviously a pack of lies.0 -
does sound a bit like victim blaming...What he did was terrible, but I'm guessing he didn't know there was a child in the car, and that whatever the learner driver did must've angered him.0 -
Lots of fail here. The driver for lying (her story is about as believable as Oscar Pistorius), and having a child in the back seat of a car with an L plate on. The cyclist for overreacting to what was probably a minor incident of being cut up by a learner driver. The Standard for sensationalising it. Daddy0 for bothering to waste his time on the pondlife living in Croydon
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That article doesn't mention the driver being a learner. Only that "we had learner plates on, and my partner was driving" which seems a strange choice of words if the message they were trying to convey was that the driver at the time was indeed a learner.
I suspect there is a lot more than meets the eye, but D locking a car seems pretty reactionary regardless of whether there's a bub in the back!0 -
does sound a bit like victim blaming...What he did was terrible, but I'm guessing he didn't know there was a child in the car, and that whatever the learner driver did must've angered him.
Yeah, but cyclists don't go around D-locking cars for no reason... well I don't anyway.0 -
What the cyclist did was bang out of order, regardless of what might have happened in the preceding moments.
She described him on Facebook, and pointed out there's a chance he rides the same route everyday, because she's worried he'll do this to other people and she's helping them avoid him? Okay, I believe that.Ben
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That article doesn't mention the driver being a learner. Only that "we had learner plates on, and my partner was driving" which seems a strange choice of words if the message they were trying to convey was that the driver at the time was indeed a learner.
I suspect there is a lot more than meets the eye, but D locking a car seems pretty reactionary regardless of whether there's a bub in the back!
Although she does say that she said to the cyclist to have consideration as they had L plates on.
That, to me, implies he was a learner.0 -
ftfy[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19726427#p19726427]Snakebite the 2nd[/url] wrote:Doing that is not clever.
No matter how wound up you are, it is better to let things like that go.
I've done a few things on a bike that I am not proud of, but at the time I thought they made sense.
Hopefully this cyclist has realised what he has done, I reckon his pooper is going some at the moment, I know mine was, and I wasn't all over the internet.
If he learns from this then it will not have been for nothing.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19726519#p19726519]Snakebite the 2nd[/url] wrote:Also
That article doesn't mention the driver being a learner. Only that "we had learner plates on, and my partner was driving" which seems a strange choice of words if the message they were trying to convey was that the driver at the time was indeed a learner.
I suspect there is a lot more than meets the eye, but D locking a car seems pretty reactionary regardless of whether there's a bub in the back!
Although she does say that she said to the cyclist to have consideration as they had L plates on.
That, to me, implies he was a learner.
Yeah, but what right minded person is having a driving lesson on a road like that in rush hour on a Monday morning (with or without baby in the back)?0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19726519#p19726519]Snakebite the 2nd[/url] wrote:Also
That article doesn't mention the driver being a learner. Only that "we had learner plates on, and my partner was driving" which seems a strange choice of words if the message they were trying to convey was that the driver at the time was indeed a learner.
I suspect there is a lot more than meets the eye, but D locking a car seems pretty reactionary regardless of whether there's a bub in the back!
Although she does say that she said to the cyclist to have consideration as they had L plates on.
That, to me, implies he was a learner.
Which also implies (to me at least) that they did something a bit more than passively block a cyclist ...
Also, if you've accidentally cut someone up (in a car, bike, whatever) then don't you say "Sorry" first ... ? Acknowledging you've f*cked up is fairly fundemendtal ....0 -
Even if you do have a reason.....Yeah, but cyclists don't go around D-locking cars for no reason... well I don't anyway.
About the only situations I can think of, in which it's acceptable to D-Lock a car, are if someone inside the car is in danger (eg to rescue someone who's trapped following an accident) or if you have the explicit permission of the owner (eg they've locked themselves out). Even if I saw a dog trapped in an overheating car, I might try to phone the police before actually swinging the lock.Pannier, 120rpm.0 -
Even if you do have a reason.....Yeah, but cyclists don't go around D-locking cars for no reason... well I don't anyway.
About the only situations I can think of, in which it's acceptable to D-Lock a car, are if someone inside the car is in danger (eg to rescue someone who's trapped following an accident) or if you have the explicit permission of the owner (eg they've locked themselves out). Even if I saw a dog trapped in an overheating car, I might try to phone the police before actually swinging the lock.
Nope. Window smashed, dog saved. I'd be happy to face the consequences.Ben
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Even if you do have a reason.....Yeah, but cyclists don't go around D-locking cars for no reason... well I don't anyway.
About the only situations I can think of, in which it's acceptable to D-Lock a car, are if someone inside the car is in danger (eg to rescue someone who's trapped following an accident) or if you have the explicit permission of the owner (eg they've locked themselves out). Even if I saw a dog trapped in an overheating car, I might try to phone the police before actually swinging the lock.
Nope. Window smashed, dog saved. I'd be happy to face the consequences.
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19726519#p19726519]Snakebite the 2nd[/url] wrote:Also
That article doesn't mention the driver being a learner. Only that "we had learner plates on, and my partner was driving" which seems a strange choice of words if the message they were trying to convey was that the driver at the time was indeed a learner.
I suspect there is a lot more than meets the eye, but D locking a car seems pretty reactionary regardless of whether there's a bub in the back!
Although she does say that she said to the cyclist to have consideration as they had L plates on.
That, to me, implies he was a learner.
Which also implies (to me at least) that they did something a bit more than passively block a cyclist ...
Also, if you've accidentally cut someone up (in a car, bike, whatever) then don't you say "Sorry" first ... ? Acknowledging you've f*cked up is fairly fundemendtal ....
Fundamental to most people that is.
That's what boils my piss the most. If you get cut up it goes a long way when someone just puts their hand up and goes "sorry, I completely misjudged it".0 -
They didn't get a witness (in rush hour, on the busiest of roads), the description of the cyclist is as generic as they come, they took a photo of their kid through a smashed window - the whole thing stinks. If I were a betting man I'd guess they locked their kid and keys in the car, and they're just trying to scam the insurance company whilst blaming a fictional cyclist.0
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Haha I had a very similar experience a few years ago. Our cat had been missing for 12 hours, most uncharacteristic. Our next-door neighbour had just gone on holiday. I had a thought, went next door and peered in through her windows. Sure enough, there was our cat who must've sneaked in while she was loading up her car. What to do? I called the police, and they advised "break a window". So I did, and had the window all puttied up and repainted by the time she got back. Obviously I 'fessed up.
Even if you do have a reason.....Yeah, but cyclists don't go around D-locking cars for no reason... well I don't anyway.
About the only situations I can think of, in which it's acceptable to D-Lock a car, are if someone inside the car is in danger (eg to rescue someone who's trapped following an accident) or if you have the explicit permission of the owner (eg they've locked themselves out). Even if I saw a dog trapped in an overheating car, I might try to phone the police before actually swinging the lock.Dolan Titanium ADX 2016
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Haha I had a very similar experience a few years ago. Our cat had been missing for 12 hours, most uncharacteristic. Our next-door neighbour had just gone on holiday. I had a thought, went next door and peered in through her windows. Sure enough, there was our cat who must've sneaked in while she was loading up her car. What to do? I called the police, and they advised "break a window". So I did, and had the window all puttied up and repainted by the time she got back. Obviously I 'fessed up.
Even if you do have a reason.....Yeah, but cyclists don't go around D-locking cars for no reason... well I don't anyway.
About the only situations I can think of, in which it's acceptable to D-Lock a car, are if someone inside the car is in danger (eg to rescue someone who's trapped following an accident) or if you have the explicit permission of the owner (eg they've locked themselves out). Even if I saw a dog trapped in an overheating car, I might try to phone the police before actually swinging the lock.
Blimey, my dad always told me to wait about 2-3 weeks to allow the putty to go off, before painting.
All that linseed oil plays havoc allegedly.
Good news about the cat though!0 -
They didn't get a witness (in rush hour, on the busiest of roads), the description of the cyclist is as generic as they come, they took a photo of their kid through a smashed window - the whole thing stinks. If I were a betting man I'd guess they locked their kid and keys in the car, and they're just trying to scam the insurance company whilst blaming a fictional cyclist.
Ok - but why the back passenger window?
Why would a cyclist hit that one? Surely if you're going to D-lock someones car you do it where they will be most affected ...
But equally - if you'd locked your keys in the car with a child - would you really smash a passenger window opposite the child? I'd want to break the window that would likely cause least harm to the baby ...
you're right though - it doesn't add up ...0 -
Even though you are from Croydon?
does sound a bit like victim blaming...What he did was terrible, but I'm guessing he didn't know there was a child in the car, and that whatever the learner driver did must've angered him.
Yeah, but cyclists don't go around D-locking cars for no reason... well I don't anyway.
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Even though you are from Croydon?
does sound a bit like victim blaming...What he did was terrible, but I'm guessing he didn't know there was a child in the car, and that whatever the learner driver did must've angered him.
Yeah, but cyclists don't go around D-locking cars for no reason... well I don't anyway.
Bruv, did you just cut your eye at me?
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Ok - but why the back passenger window?
Why would a cyclist hit that one? Surely if you're going to D-lock someones car you do it where they will be most affected ...
Prob because he intended on causing property damage without showering the driver/passenger with glass, not realizing there was a baby in the back?"Mummy Mummy, when will I grow up?"
"Don't be silly son, you're a bloke, you'll never grow up"0 -
They didn't get a witness (in rush hour, on the busiest of roads), the description of the cyclist is as generic as they come, they took a photo of their kid through a smashed window - the whole thing stinks. If I were a betting man I'd guess they locked their kid and keys in the car, and they're just trying to scam the insurance company whilst blaming a fictional cyclist.
Ok - but why the back passenger window?
Why would a cyclist hit that one? Surely if you're going to D-lock someones car you do it where they will be most affected ...
there could be loads of reasons, the car could have pulled forward when the guy took a swing at it, if they say they spoke to the cyclist then maybe the front windows were down & the guy just wanted to cause some damage etc etc suspect he didnt expect the window to break necessarily.
but I dont even think the setup is that unusual, Ive known people when learning to drive, their partners who had licenses would sit alongside them, theyd as the learner, drive in to work, get used to the hell of commuting,its experience if nothing else, then their partner would drive off with their kids or go do their day and repeat at home time in reverse
even the generic description stuff I know when Ive encountered drivers deliberately driving at me and I feel Im inches away from being squished the stress reaction,panic, adrenaline whatever, I know Ive only been able to describe those drivers and cars in the absolute vaguest even almost amateurish terms afterwards.
the only thing that sounds a bit odd is the cyclist going bat crazy with only the merest provocation, possibly being cut up we dont know,
but that doesnt mean the guy could go all D lock on their car as a result.0 -
What the actual.
D-lock the wing mirrors FFS.0
