5p bags : anyone assaulted a shop worker yet?
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Nice to see we have brought in some very clear rules aimed at keeping things simple :roll:
Britain, making red tape great again.0 -
Nice to see we have brought in some very clear rules aimed at keeping things simple :roll:
Britain, making red tape great again.
ENGLAND, making red tape great again. It's a piece of cake in the other parts of "Britain." But, hey, devolution........My blog: http://www.roubaixcycling.cc (kit reviews and other musings)
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Yepp, fair point well made, an English masterpiece this one.0
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And I thought the Italians were good at overcomplicating things. Surely they should be chargeable from everywhere.
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But why would anybody assault someone over 5p?
Because a vast number of people are complete arseholes.0 -
Not me, but I was packing my supermarket purchases in individual plastic bags over the weekend. They come in handy for quite a few things, may as well make the most of them."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
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And I thought the Italians were good at overcomplicating things. Surely they should be chargeable from everywhere.
But why would anybody assault someone over 5p?
The Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish wouldn't, clearly.My blog: http://www.roubaixcycling.cc (kit reviews and other musings)
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I would hope the English can resist too, Just the papers scaremongering again I suspect. I really do hate the 'popular' press.But why would anybody assault someone over 5p?
The Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish wouldn't, clearly.0 -
I would hope the English can resist too, Just the papers scaremongering again I suspect. I really do hate the 'popular' press.But why would anybody assault someone over 5p?
The Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish wouldn't, clearly.
Quite. That was my point, really. Shameful. The Daily Mash had this spot on, as usual:
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/pathetic-little-twat-cant-wait-to-argue-over-5p-bag-charge-20151005102605My blog: http://www.roubaixcycling.cc (kit reviews and other musings)
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Haha, you beat me to it Bender, just saw the Mash article and was coming over to post it.0
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who buy plastic bags anyway?
where are the deposit bottles?
why is there no deposit on cans?
the UK was ahead of the game but then got FUBARD."Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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Obviously it shouldn't cause confusion because the bags you don't pay for I presume should hopefully just be those you pick up to put your tomatoes in mid shop - logically any bags used at the till should be chargeable.
What bothers me more is a) why did it take England so long and b) what about the other plastic bags? Eg if you bought a pre packaged bag of apples then really you should be charged separately for that bag as well. And if you were, people then might start opening the bags at the till and leaving them in the shop which then might make the supermarkets think a bit more their own excess packaging.Faster than a tent.......0 -
Obviously it shouldn't cause confusion because the bags you don't pay for I presume should hopefully just be those you pick up to put your tomatoes in mid shop - logically any bags used at the till should be chargeable.
What bothers me more is a) why did it take England so long and b) what about the other plastic bags? Eg if you bought a pre packaged bag of apples then really you should be charged separately for that bag as well. And if you were, people then might start opening the bags at the till and leaving them in the shop which then might make the supermarkets think a bit more their own excess packaging.
a) we spent longer trying to work out what it actually acheived and b) no-one blinks an eye buying 20 Brabantia binliners at £3 and they just end up in the tip after a single use and have you seen the cost of sandwich bags thesedays supermarkets even put them next to freezer bags, which are half the cost for the same thing to let you compare...oh sorry Im not supposed to keep pointing out people buy plastic bags all the time and just chuck them away after a single use...Im sure charging for shopping bags will radically alter peoples shopping habits
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I use the shopping bags as bin liners, so they are not single use.Obviously it shouldn't cause confusion because the bags you don't pay for I presume should hopefully just be those you pick up to put your tomatoes in mid shop - logically any bags used at the till should be chargeable.
What bothers me more is a) why did it take England so long and b) what about the other plastic bags? Eg if you bought a pre packaged bag of apples then really you should be charged separately for that bag as well. And if you were, people then might start opening the bags at the till and leaving them in the shop which then might make the supermarkets think a bit more their own excess packaging.
a) we spent longer trying to work out what it actually acheived and b) no-one blinks an eye buying 20 Brabantia binliners at £3 and they just end up in the tip after a single use and have you seen the cost of sandwich bags thesedays supermarkets even put them next to freezer bags, which are half the cost for the same thing to let you compare...oh sorry Im not supposed to keep pointing out people buy plastic bags all the time and just chuck them away after a single use...Im sure charging for shopping bags will radically alter peoples shopping habits
What would be more appropriate is to ensure that the bags were 100% biodegradable.
But this is as much about money.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
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Agree that these single use bags should be biodegradable. It amazes me that most dog poo bags aren't like this. When we finally meet aliens someone is going to have to explain why we preserve dog poo in these bags, often hanging them on tree branches as a display for fellow dog walkers.
Ocado is doing a pretty good job with this 5p charge, as they refund you 5p for every carrier bag you return to the driver for recycling. Although using bags in the first place seems a bit unnecessary as they only need to transport items 5 metres from the front door to the kitchen.0 -
I use the shopping bags as bin liners, so they are not single use.
What would be more appropriate is to ensure that the bags were 100% biodegradable.
But this is as much about money.
I use the cotton bags which pretty much last indefinitely - better than plastic biodegradeable.
I've just spent three months cycling to the top of Norway. They charge for bags there and everybody just seems to not care - they end up with half a dozen bags they've been charged 15p each for none of which seem to get re-used. I picked up a sturdy, but disposable plastic bag in Denmark and used it to keep the jam and honey in. It was dug out of my pannier every day for lunch for 10 weeks and it is still useable.
5p seems too little but maybe the Norwegian situation isn't that pertinent - they are less environmentally aware than we are and less tight fisted!Faster than a tent.......0 -
Isn't everybody when you live in Yorkshire?5p seems too little but maybe the Norwegian situation isn't that pertinent - they are less environmentally aware than we are and less tight fisted!
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Ah! But what do you use as bin liners?I use the shopping bags as bin liners, so they are not single use.
What would be more appropriate is to ensure that the bags were 100% biodegradable.
But this is as much about money.
I use the cotton bags which pretty much last indefinitely - better than plastic biodegradeable.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Was in sainos yesterday.
Their 5p bags are much much sturdier.
Not sure they'll improve the environment but is better for the shopping experience on the rare occasion you forget to bring your own bag.0 -
Indeed. Except for the Scots.
Isn't everybody when you live in Yorkshire?5p seems too little but maybe the Norwegian situation isn't that pertinent - they are less environmentally aware than we are and less tight fisted!Faster than a tent.......0 -
I noticed in asda last week that there are different sized bags on the ten items or less DIY checkouts. These bags are smaller than the ones used in the rest of the shop, so I had to use more to get my few bits of shopping in. If I was a cynic, I'd say this was a ploy. :roll:
I'm usually careful about how many i use, trying to be green and all that, but they weren't just too small for a several items, they were just too small. Stuff didn't fit and looked like it was going to drop out.
I've heard that the shopping habits of the UK have changed. More of us now shop by taking several small trips a week rather than one major weekly shop. The change is going to affect that i think, because a lot of those trips are not planned for, and people don't go with bags.
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I noticed in asda last week that there are different sized bags on the ten items or less DIY checkouts. These bags are smaller than the ones used in the rest of the shop, so I had to use more to get my few bits of shopping in. If I was a cynic, I'd say this was a ploy. :roll:
I'm usually careful about how many i use, trying to be green and all that, but they weren't just too small for a several items, they were just too small. Stuff didn't fit and looked like it was going to drop out.
I've heard that the shopping habits of the UK have changed. More of us now shop by taking several small trips a week rather than one major weekly shop. The change is going to affect that i think, because a lot of those trips are not planned for, and people don't go with bags.
Why would it be a ploy? Do the shops keep the money in England? In Wales all the money made from bags gets donated to a charity chosen by the shop.0 -
Obviously it shouldn't cause confusion because the bags you don't pay for I presume should hopefully just be those you pick up to put your tomatoes in mid shop - logically any bags used at the till should be chargeable.
What bothers me more is a) why did it take England so long and b) what about the other plastic bags? Eg if you bought a pre packaged bag of apples then really you should be charged separately for that bag as well. And if you were, people then might start opening the bags at the till and leaving them in the shop which then might make the supermarkets think a bit more their own excess packaging.
a) we spent longer trying to work out what it actually acheived and b) no-one blinks an eye buying 20 Brabantia binliners at £3 and they just end up in the tip after a single use and have you seen the cost of sandwich bags thesedays supermarkets even put them next to freezer bags, which are half the cost for the same thing to let you compare...oh sorry Im not supposed to keep pointing out people buy plastic bags all the time and just chuck them away after a single use...Im sure charging for shopping bags will radically alter peoples shopping habits
The bin bag thing is an odd one. My local council won't empty your bin if you put un-bagged rubbish in there which sort of contradicts the whole bag tax policy. Surely it's time for the EU to have a directive that any bag marketed as a bin liner should be biodegradable if the issue is as big as is claimed?0 -
I noticed in asda last week that there are different sized bags on the ten items or less DIY checkouts. These bags are smaller than the ones used in the rest of the shop, so I had to use more to get my few bits of shopping in. If I was a cynic, I'd say this was a ploy. :roll:
I'm usually careful about how many i use, trying to be green and all that, but they weren't just too small for a several items, they were just too small. Stuff didn't fit and looked like it was going to drop out.
I've heard that the shopping habits of the UK have changed. More of us now shop by taking several small trips a week rather than one major weekly shop. The change is going to affect that i think, because a lot of those trips are not planned for, and people don't go with bags.
Why would it be a ploy? Do the shops keep the money in England? In Wales all the money made from bags gets donated to a charity chosen by the shop.
the shops can keep the money, it is suggested they give it to charity but they don't have to.
I'm all for the charge though, in Wales the use of carrier bags has dropped by 70% and that can only be a good thing.www.conjunctivitis.com - a site for sore eyes0 -
Ocado is doing a pretty good job with this 5p charge, as they refund you 5p for every carrier bag you return to the driver for recycling. Although using bags in the first place seems a bit unnecessary as they only need to transport items 5 metres from the front door to the kitchen.
Whilst I agree that Ocado man only moves your stuff five yards, and in a crate also, it really is a pain in the back side having to unpack stuff loose from the crate. When I used to have Tesco deliveries I found myself unpacking the crate and placing the goods on the floor or worktop to have to move it again. If it was in a bag I could have spent all of 3 seconds emptying the crate and move it later at my leisure. Ocado Man Mick ain't gonna stand there and wait for you to unpack his crate directly into the cupboard/fridge when he only gets 4 minutes "at the door" for each delivery.The only disability in life is a poor attitude.0 -
Blimey. We normally get Tesco to deliver and we do get a lot of carrier bags which then get reused.
If I can sell them back to Ocado though - I'll be in the money ! ;-)0 -
The best thing about the 5p charge for plastic bags it that the cupboard under my sink is now worth £27,487.Cube - Peloton
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It's amazing how much freaking out about this there is. So if I have to spend 5p/10p extra, doesn't bother me much.0
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Why not re use your bags and saves bit of plastic going into landfill?0
