Ride London 2016

Anonymous

vpnikolov wrote:

Right... reading a lot of comments that people who exaggerated their estimated finish time should be removed or whatever - I think you should be more considerate of genuine circumstances of such people. I for example estimated 5, finished 7:40 official with 6:30 moving mainly due to a knee injury that kept me off the bike for more than a month before the ride. Needless to say I was not in top shape and knee flared up again. Still sucked it up and managed to finish (without walking on a single hill), although was considering pulling out halfway through.

It is completely unnecessary to shame people because "they lied".

Er, no its not!

Did you lie then?
Thought you were just wrong due to an unforeseen injury.

What was your 20mph 100 mile average speed finish time based on?

My wife's 5 hour finish was based on having done it previously. She was not at her best, but still did it, and without the hour and a half rest that you had.

We do both running and cycling events, always give a realistic estimated finish time, and always finish close enough to it to not feel a charlatan.
So forgive me if I think lie tellers and cheats should be boiled in oil :twisted:

deejaysee

jwshale wrote:

Times in Excel format. If you're your interested in such things...
http://www.filedropper.com/rl20162

Dont suppose there's such a file for the 46 too??

bikergirl17

You're taking the p*ss right - whitedown would be utter carnage with people stopping short everywhere - if they can't get up leith hill put them on that?? And it's pretty narrow with the turn up and right to ranmore sure to cause accidents. The climb up past denbies would be good but the descent to chapel lane is bad enough when I'm the only one there. Even hill top hill hill (staple lane?) means a tricky and narrow descent into shere. Not really that many options with such crowds, narrow lanes & poorly maintained roads.

ugo.santalucia wrote:

zebulebu wrote:

- You could take Leith Hill out of it - it's the only real challenge of a hill, and apparently has carnage every year as people stop dead in front of other riders - and often has crashes on the descent (there was a bad one yesterday, apparently) - but doing that would wee-wee off anyone who cycles regularly and wanted to challenge themselves.

One solution would be to go up Whitedown lane, which is a challenge and then the main road down Ranmore Common into Dorking, which is wide enough and much safer than Leith hill, if properly marshalled.
Only issue, Whitedown lane will quickly get filled with walkers, I suspect, but that's OK, it happens at the RVV every year and the quick riders will get through before it happens

Anonymous

antonyfromoz wrote:

Carbonator wrote:

Anyone have any good Cockwomble stories?

A guy in wave D with a wave K number climbed back out over the barrier to get to a space further up (imagine if we all did that). He nearly knocked some poor sods bike over (like he would have given a sh1t).
I so wanted him to fall and stamp on his, or one of his sad friends derailleurs, but it was not to be.

There was one man on a flat bar hybrid who I saw on several occasions riding up hill, standing, with the bike the second or third highest gear on the cassette - and wandering all over the road as he ground his way up..

I would have missed out the bit about having seen him on several occasions 8)

Anonymous

bikergirl17 wrote:

You're taking the p*ss right - whitedown would be utter carnage with people stopping short everywhere - if they can't get up leith hill put them on that?? And it's pretty narrow with the turn up and right to ranmore sure to cause accidents. The climb up past denbies would be good but the descent to chapel lane is bad enough when I'm the only one there. Even hill top hill hill (staple lane?) means a tricky and narrow descent into shere. Not really that many options with such crowds, narrow lanes & poorly maintained roads.

I figured, as he loves this event so much, that he does actually just want the utter carnage!

ugo.santalucia

There is no carnage, the all ascent just grinds to a halt and becomes a procession of walkers, just like the Koppenberg in the RVV and to a lesser extent Hardknott in the Fred... nobody gets hurt there... just a thought... Denbies is a good idea and you can descend via the main road from Ranmore, so not a big deal... it's just not a very challenging climb if you are this side of 100 Kg

antonyfromoz

Carbonator wrote:

antonyfromoz wrote:

Carbonator wrote:

Anyone have any good Cockwomble stories?

A guy in wave D with a wave K number climbed back out over the barrier to get to a space further up (imagine if we all did that). He nearly knocked some poor sods bike over (like he would have given a sh1t).
I so wanted him to fall and stamp on his, or one of his sad friends derailleurs, but it was not to be.

There was one man on a flat bar hybrid who I saw on several occasions riding up hill, standing, with the bike the second or third highest gear on the cassette - and wandering all over the road as he ground his way up..

I would have missed out the bit about having seen him on several occasions 8)

too late now - it's on the web and never to be deleted Maybe it was just twice...

Anonymous

I am not doing the Fred then!
I run, cycle and walk, but the dog is usually with me when walking.

Anonymous

antonyfromoz wrote:

Carbonator wrote:

antonyfromoz wrote:

Carbonator wrote:

Anyone have any good Cockwomble stories?

A guy in wave D with a wave K number climbed back out over the barrier to get to a space further up (imagine if we all did that). He nearly knocked some poor sods bike over (like he would have given a sh1t).
I so wanted him to fall and stamp on his, or one of his sad friends derailleurs, but it was not to be.

There was one man on a flat bar hybrid who I saw on several occasions riding up hill, standing, with the bike the second or third highest gear on the cassette - and wandering all over the road as he ground his way up..

I would have missed out the bit about having seen him on several occasions 8)

too late now - it's on the web and never to be deleted Maybe it was just twice...

Thats the spirit
We need more people like you in the world :P

ugo.santalucia

PS: I have nothing against RL100, just struggle to understand why those who know they can ride 100 miles no problem keep insisting doing this thing.

ugo.santalucia

Carbonator wrote:

I am not doing the Fred then!
I run, cycle and walk, but the dog is usually with me when walking.

You don't have to walk, it's never packed... you can always cycle your way up if you've got the legs...

mattsaw

ugo.santalucia wrote:

PS: I have nothing against RL100, just struggle to understand why those who know they can ride 100 miles no problem keep insisting doing this thing.

The simple answer is closed roads in conjunction with being accessible to the South East

slowbike

ugo.santalucia wrote:

PS: I have nothing against RL100, just struggle to understand why those who know they can ride 100 miles no problem keep insisting doing this thing.

1) it's closed roads - so only other riders to worry about
2) a good chance of doing a quick 100
3) perhaps they are fund raising for charity
4) perhaps they're supporting other riders who haven't done a ton before.
5) because it's there

I've done it once now - happy with my time considering - would like to have done it faster but there you go - not rushing to do it again but I'm not going to say no to doing it again at some point.
I did it as although I knew I could ride 100 I wanted a faster time. My first 100 was my fastest time - subsequent ones have been with other people who I've been helping around - this time was for me.

Anonymous

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Carbonator wrote:

I am not doing the Fred then!
I run, cycle and walk, but the dog is usually with me when walking.

You don't have to walk, it's never packed... you can always cycle your way up if you've got the legs...

Fred next year then

ugo.santalucia

Mattsaw wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

PS: I have nothing against RL100, just struggle to understand why those who know they can ride 100 miles no problem keep insisting doing this thing.

The simple answer is closed roads in conjunction with being accessible to the South East

I'd rather contend with a handful of cars in a 100 miles in Wales, than riding 100 miles on closed roads with another 25,000 bikes.
I did the RVV... I didn't really like being around so many people... you can't lose your focus for a second or you're on the pavement

Anonymous

ugo.santalucia wrote:

PS: I have nothing against RL100, just struggle to understand why those who know they can ride 100 miles no problem keep insisting doing this turd.

FTFY

slowbike

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Mattsaw wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

PS: I have nothing against RL100, just struggle to understand why those who know they can ride 100 miles no problem keep insisting doing this thing.

The simple answer is closed roads in conjunction with being accessible to the South East

I'd rather contend with a handful of cars in a 100 miles in Wales, than riding 100 miles on closed roads with another 25,000 bikes.
I did the RVV... I'm really quite antisocial...

FTFU

ugo.santalucia

Slowbike wrote:

1) it's closed roads - so only other riders to worry about
2) a good chance of doing a quick 100
.

It seems more dangerous to ride surrounded by another 25 K bikes than riding along the A 38... don't get that bit

So it's for bragging rights? I've done 100 miles in 4 hours... look at me... dragged around the all day in the absence of a wall of air to force myself into...

ugo.santalucia

Carbonator wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Carbonator wrote:

I am not doing the Fred then!
I run, cycle and walk, but the dog is usually with me when walking.

You don't have to walk, it's never packed... you can always cycle your way up if you've got the legs...

Fred next year then

You should... gives you a different perspective... and it's the best ride in the country, whichever way you want to look at it... the hardest, the most scenic, the most rewarding, the best organised, the one with the best atmosphere... food could be better, but they try to maximise the amount they donate to charity, so you are left with basic stuff

kingstongraham

ugo.santalucia wrote:

PS: I have nothing against RL100, just struggle to understand why those who know they can ride 100 miles no problem keep insisting doing this thing.

When else in England can you ride hard for 100 miles without stopping (and without getting dizzy)? Closed roads is the only thing.

bigmat

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Slowbike wrote:

1) it's closed roads - so only other riders to worry about
2) a good chance of doing a quick 100
.

It seems more dangerous to ride surrounded by another 25 K bikes than riding along the A 38... don't get that bit

So it's for bragging rights? I've done 100 miles in 4 hours... look at me... dragged around the all day in the absence of a wall of air to force myself into...

Some of us were doing the dragging!

ugo.santalucia

KingstonGraham wrote:

When else in England can you ride hard for 100 miles and stop for an hour waiting for the road to reopen? Closed roads is the only thing.

FTFY

bigmat

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Carbonator wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Carbonator wrote:

I am not doing the Fred then!
I run, cycle and walk, but the dog is usually with me when walking.

You don't have to walk, it's never packed... you can always cycle your way up if you've got the legs...

Fred next year then

You should... gives you a different perspective... and it's the best ride in the country, whichever way you want to look at it... the hardest, the most scenic, the most rewarding, the best organised, the one with the best atmosphere... food could be better, but they try to maximise the amount they donate to charity, so you are left with basic stuff

For sure Fred's a better ride, but then I can't go to sleep in my usual bed, get up, do the ride and be home in time for brunch. That's one of the big draws with Ride London.

deejaysee

Couldnt get a spot on the 100 so did the 46.
Absolutely loved every minute of it

46 aint no thing so went full clip for the whole ride - finished with a speed average of 20.6mph
Pretty chuffed as usually ride about 17 av

drlodge

BigMat wrote:

For sure Fred's a better ride, but then I can't go to sleep in my usual bed, get up, do the ride and be home in time for brunch. That's one of the big draws with Ride London.

For you perhaps, but for most of us its either a very early start or finding somewhere to stay in London and get up nearly as early. At least with the Fred, you might link it with a holiday in a nice place to be.

The logistics are one big ball ache. I've done it twice, won't be doing it again.

itboffin

Mallorca 312 has changed its route now otherwise i'd have said save your money and give that ago, that said you do still get an incredible route with excellent organisation, almost all traffic free roads and sunshine

umop3pisdn

KingstonGraham wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

PS: I have nothing against RL100, just struggle to understand why those who know they can ride 100 miles no problem keep insisting doing this thing.

When else in England can you ride hard for 100 miles without stopping (and without getting dizzy)? Closed roads is the only thing.

Just about every 100 mile time trial course in the country.

ugo.santalucia

BigMat wrote:

For sure Fred's a better ride, but then I can't go to sleep in my usual bed, get up, do the ride and be home in time for brunch. That's one of the big draws with Ride London.

It's called a sunday ride, it doesn't cost 60 quid...

Of course the Fred is a better ride, despite what Boris said, Surrey is really nothing special and London, seeing you live there, is nothing out of the ordinary too

It's 4 years that I bang on the same drum and I still don't get you guys... 2013 was the novelty, but then?

slowbike

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Slowbike wrote:

1) it's closed roads - so only other riders to worry about
2) a good chance of doing a quick 100
.

It seems more dangerous to ride surrounded by another 25 K bikes than riding along the A 38... don't get that bit

So it's for bragging rights? I've done 100 miles in 4 hours... look at me... dragged around the all day in the absence of a wall of air to force myself into...

you don't do probability do you ... dangerous? that wasn't dangerous - for a start I'm not riding with 25k other bikes - not unless I start in the first wave and put in a slow time - there were ~6k riders quicker than me yesterday - not sure how many set off before Blue wave D went - but 25k riders setting off in a 3hour timeslot suggests that it's about 4000 in each 1/2 hour - so let's guess that 4000 set off before me. I overtook quite a few but was also overtaken by quite a few. Quite a few of those faster than me will have set off behind me but not overtaken me - so let's just guess that I was overtaken by 2000 riders and I overtook a similar number - so I rode with 4thousand other cyclists over the course of 5 1/2 hours - that's not even a 5th of the number you suggested...
25k riders and how many accidents were there? There were 2 serious incidents and numerous others - but what was the total? Less than 1000? so less than a 1 in 25 chance of being in an incident at all - let alone a serious one.

I didn't suggest bragging rights - some may have been in there for them and tbh - kudos to anyone doing a 4hour ride - 25mph avg for 4hours isn't easy going even if you are in a group - like I said, I wanted to do a quick 100 - for me - not anyone else - some people just wanted the chance of doing 100 miles - some people just like big events - we're all different.

drlodge

ugo.santalucia wrote:

It's 4 years that I bang on the same drum and I still don't get you guys... 2013 was the novelty, but then?

I agree. Do it once, or perhaps twice, then its a case of 'been there, done that, got the T shirt'