Buying an aero bike - narrowed down to three.
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It would seem that Merida has new 2016 aero frames but not Giant.
http://www.merida.tw/bike.php?op=info&bike_id=813
http://www.giantcyclingworld.com/web/bikes_list.php?style_id=10009&level_id=10006&where_id=10003
The new Merida Reacto 7000e is the same price as the Propel Pro 1 yet comes with Ultegra Di2.
Might be worth a look.
Btw, that's my new ride lol!0 -
Last night I tried the Propel Advanced Pro 1 and I loved it. Probably my favourite of the bunch. It felt very fast, light and it was relatively comfortable as far as aero bikes go. When I saw a picture online I didn't care much for the colour but it looks great in real life. I will probably go for this. Thanks for all your suggestions.Dan Walton wrote:The new Giant range is being launched this Friday, the Propel I'm interested in is almost identical spec to this years but £350 cheaper.
Where did you get the prices and launch date?
I can see the new Giants are listed on the Australian Giant website, but nothing on the UK one as yet:-
http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-au/bike-catalogue/series/on-road/76/
I seriously suggest you test ride a Reacto before making your decision. The Germans very rarely get design wrong.I ride a bike. Doesn't make me green or a tree hugger. I drive a car too.0 -
Last night I tried the Propel Advanced Pro 1 and I loved it. Probably my favourite of the bunch. It felt very fast, light and it was relatively comfortable as far as aero bikes go. When I saw a picture online I didn't care much for the colour but it looks great in real life. I will probably go for this. Thanks for all your suggestions.Dan Walton wrote:The new Giant range is being launched this Friday, the Propel I'm interested in is almost identical spec to this years but £350 cheaper.
Where did you get the prices and launch date?
I can see the new Giants are listed on the Australian Giant website, but nothing on the UK one as yet:-
http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-au/bike-catalogue/series/on-road/76/
I seriously suggest you test ride a Reacto before making your decision. The Germans very rarely get design wrong.
As much as I like German engineering and I do think I'll like my new ride, you do realise that the Germans also made the Hindenburg and Mercedes-Benz biodegradable wiring lol!0 -
philthy3 wrote:[url=<span class= wrote:Hindmost[/url]"]Last night I tried the Propel Advanced Pro 1 and I loved it. Probably my favourite of the bunch. It felt very fast, light and it was relatively comfortable as far as aero bikes go. When I saw a picture online I didn't care much for the colour but it looks great in real life. I will probably go for this. Thanks for all your suggestions.Dan Walton wrote:The new Giant range is being launched this Friday, the Propel I'm interested in is almost identical spec to this years but £350 cheaper.
Where did you get the prices and launch date?
I can see the new Giants are listed on the Australian Giant website, but nothing on the UK one as yet:-
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I seriously suggest you test ride a Reacto before making your decision. The Germans very rarely get design wrong.
The Reacto 7000 looks good but the stock wheels they come with seem average and I'd probably end up paying more overall to upgrade them.0 -
There's plus and minus to both bikes, at least from my LBS, Merida has Di2, 50% cash back on upgrade costs for my next bike and that is even if I crash my bike within the next 2 years and better aerodynamics at least on the 2015 version.
Giant has better, wheels which I would still need to get a set of training wheels.
Merida wins it out for me where I'm at and it's a steal at £1927 imo.0 -
Are you also buying a skin suit and an aero helmet? You better be if you want to go fast! Oh and dont forget the shoe covers and a bike fit to get you as aero as possible. All far more important than the bike frame.Pegoretti
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on-yer-bike wrote:Are you also buying a skin suit and an aero helmet? You better be if you want to go fast! Oh and dont forget the shoe covers and a bike fit to get you as aero as possible. All far more important than the bike frame.
I have all these things and some aero bars for TTs but if I didn't, and if I wanted to put a basket on the front and put Spokey-Dokeys on the wheels, then that would also be fine because it'll be my bike.0 -
on-yer-bike wrote:Are you also buying a skin suit and an aero helmet? You better be if you want to go fast! Oh and dont forget the shoe covers and a bike fit to get you as aero as possible. All far more important than the bike frame.
I have all these things and some aero bars for TTs but if I didn't, and if I wanted to put a basket on the front and put Spokey-Dokeys on the wheels, then that would also be fine because it'll be my bike.
Ah but which spokey-dokeys are the most aero and of course the lightest (rotational mass)
The basket will be fine as long as its carbon IMO
Obsessed is a word used by the lazy to describe the dedicated!0 -
The basket will be fine as long as its carbon IMO
This guy has the right idea...
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There's plus and minus to both bikes, at least from my LBS, Merida has Di2, 50% cash back on upgrade costs for my next bike and that is even if I crash my bike within the next 2 years and better aerodynamics at least on the 2015 version.
Giant has better, wheels which I would still need to get a set of training wheels.
Merida wins it out for me where I'm at and it's a steal at £1927 imo.
Where do you see it at this price?0 -
It's the price I got from my LBS. Besides, it's not that far off the RSP of £2114.
What got made me decide on the Merida was the fact I could trade in my bike (in any condition) within 2 years for a 50% cash back on my next bike provided it's an equal or higher value!
Of course it being a close second to the cervelo in aerodynamics didn't hurt.0 -
Is it this? https://www.cyclesolutions.co.uk/p81918/merida-reacto-7000-e-2016-road-bike
It's £2700 there and that is the only place on the Internet I can see it.0 -
The UK Giant website has been updated now, if anyone's still interested in Propels.0
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Is it this? https://www.cyclesolutions.co.uk/p81918/merida-reacto-7000-e-2016-road-bike
It's £2700 there and that is the only place on the Internet I can see it.
Wow that's expensive, the 2 links I posted earlier, showed the Merida 7000e and Propel Advanced Pro 1 at a rsp of NT 108,000 or around £2,114.
I encountered something similar, some shops here don't follow the rsp and sell bikes at least 20%-30% higher. However, a call to them will let me know if I should or shouldn't be dealing with that shop moving forward.0 -
Re the Reacto; personally I went for the 4000 as it's the same frame as the other models until you get to the Team E and DA Ltd versions. I stripped the frame of everything and built it up with the components I wanted, selling the stuff taken off the bike. As it was an import from France, I got the better colour scheme too in the matt carbon and green/fuscia. Having seen the 2016 line up, I'm glad I did as the new colour versions aren't as good/subtle in my opinion.I ride a bike. Doesn't make me green or a tree hugger. I drive a car too.0
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2016 Rose looks rather interesting!
http://i1.wp.com/girodilento.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/DSC02138.jpg
Aero frame + disc brakes = counterproductivity at its best
Please. Actual speed benefits of an aero frame would be utilized by a minority of cyclists, many are bought for looks and feeling faster. Faster feeling bike with superior brakes - why not? And, technically, it's still usually faster than a lightweight bike with disc brakes.
Untrue. The actual difference between aero and road frames is marginal at best when a rider is involved (in fact some aero frames tested slower than their lightweight counterparts when Tour magazine tunnelled them) and bolting on discs would just close any advantages you might gain (that wouldn't actually be used in the real world). Ergo discs on aero bikes are for choppers.English Cycles V3 | Cervelo P5 | Cervelo T4 | Trek Domane Koppenberg0 -
2016 Rose looks rather interesting!
http://i1.wp.com/girodilento.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/DSC02138.jpg
Aero frame + disc brakes = counterproductivity at its best
Please. Actual speed benefits of an aero frame would be utilized by a minority of cyclists, many are bought for looks and feeling faster. Faster feeling bike with superior brakes - why not? And, technically, it's still usually faster than a lightweight bike with disc brakes.
Untrue. The actual difference between aero and road frames is marginal at best when a rider is involved (in fact some aero frames tested slower than their lightweight counterparts when Tour magazine tunnelled them) and bolting on discs would just close any advantages you might gain (that wouldn't actually be used in the real world). Ergo discs on aero bikes are for choppers.
I don't get your post, please, elaborate. You say 'Untrue' and then proceed to agree with me that most people would not be able to take advantage of an aero frame.
And why would a slightly faster aero frame ( yes, marginally, thus the word Technically ) with disc brakes would fail to keep mentioned advantage if lightweight bike had disc brakes also?
Sorry for these blurbs, OP. I'll probably just end up getting another titanium job, anyways. Let's see if Burls can concoct an aero one.0 -
2016 Rose looks rather interesting!
http://i1.wp.com/girodilento.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/DSC02138.jpg
Aero frame + disc brakes = counterproductivity at its best
Please. Actual speed benefits of an aero frame would be utilized by a minority of cyclists, many are bought for looks and feeling faster. Faster feeling bike with superior brakes - why not? And, technically, it's still usually faster than a lightweight bike with disc brakes.
Untrue. The actual difference between aero and road frames is marginal at best when a rider is involved (in fact some aero frames tested slower than their lightweight counterparts when Tour magazine tunnelled them) and bolting on discs would just close any advantages you might gain (that wouldn't actually be used in the real world). Ergo discs on aero bikes are for choppers.
I don't get your post, please, elaborate. You say 'Untrue' and then proceed to agree with me that most people would not be able to take advantage of an aero frame.
And why would a slightly faster aero frame ( yes, marginally, thus the word Technically ) with disc brakes would fail to keep mentioned advantage if lightweight bike had disc brakes also?
Sorry for these blurbs, OP. I'll probably just end up getting another titanium job, anyways. Let's see if Burls can concoct an aero one.
Why would most people not be able to take advantage of an aero frame? On the flat and downhill the advantages are there for anyone. Going uphill,so are the disadvantages. But, a rolling or flat terrain I am sure would see the same rider achieve marginally quicker times on the aero bike.I ride a bike. Doesn't make me green or a tree hugger. I drive a car too.0
