Post tour crits - definitely no spoilers!
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Sagan JUST holding off the sprinter Froome
then doing it AGAIN against super sprinters Gesink and Mollema
then doing it AGAIN against super sprinters Gesink and Mollema
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Definite mechanical doping in that last pic...It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.0
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There's a video somewhere of Sagan pulling his wheelie and falling off!
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You mean this one?
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They're going to regret letting him start winning again.0
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^See they gave him #2 in that vid0
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You mean this one?
yeah...I ve done that :oops:We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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what's the appearance money like at these things
I can understand how back in the day a rider would make, proportionately, a lot of money but with Sagan on a reported $4m it can't be that important financially0 -
what's the appearance money like at these things
I can understand how back in the day a rider would make, proportionately, a lot of money but with Sagan on a reported $4m it can't be that important financially
Well Froome made 50k from one post-Tour crit alone in 2013, I just dont think many riders whose salaries are in the 2/3/4m mark tend to go 'you know, I've got enough money, I cant be bothered'. Pocketing that kind of easy spondoolies for rolling around a crit course and play-racing...easy money in the bank, why not...0 -
Plus in a sport like cycling you're only ever one bad crash away from the end of your career, so I can't really blame them for taking advantage when times are good.[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19668029#p19668029]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:what's the appearance money like at these things
I can understand how back in the day a rider would make, proportionately, a lot of money but with Sagan on a reported $4m it can't be that important financially
Well Froome made 50k from one post-Tour crit alone in 2013, I just dont think many riders whose salaries are in the 2/3/4m mark tend to go 'you know, I've got enough money, I cant be bothered'. Pocketing that kind of easy spondoolies for rolling around a crit course and play-racing...easy money in the bank, why not...0 -
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Tens of thousands of pounds for an evening's work?
Not everyone's out to line their pockets though
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Tens of thousands of pounds for an evening's work?
And it's barely work, at that.It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.0 -
Hasn't it been tradition that the winner of the Tour receives no prize money, it's all given to his team mates. Partly because the winner will be able to command a fortune for events like this anyway.0
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Tens of thousands of pounds for an evening's work?
yeah, suppose I could drag myself off the sofa for that
Frenchie wouldn't though - he's a purist (especially if it's raining)0 -
A friend of mine was invited to race one of these when riding for a French club in the early 90s. It was only a small one to celebrate some local rider who'd finished the Tour but he made the mistake of winning it ahead of said local rider. Needless to say he wasn't popular and I don't think he continued to ride with the club :oops:0
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No doubt as Froome mumbles something about the charade of the post Tour crits, Mrs Froome gently relieves her husband of the brown envelope every evening, and thinks, "well, that's paid for the nursery", "that's the child care in Monaco sorted for 3 years", "that's 1st class tickets back to SA for Christmas"...
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so who's paying that much money, and why?0
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so who's paying that much money, and why?
Events are ticketed & sponsors pay too.0 -
so who's paying that much money, and why?
Events are ticketed & sponsors pay too.
It's an interesting one. You could perhaps understand their appeal in a previous age because coverage wasn't great so these might be one of the few chances you'd get to see your heroes.
Nowadays though, it's rare for their to be a day when there isn't a race of some kind on Eurosport, so is there such a need for fixed criteriums? I suppose there must be as they're still operating but I can't really understand who'd pay to go and see one.0 -
so who's paying that much money, and why?
Events are ticketed & sponsors pay too.
It's an interesting one. You could perhaps understand their appeal in a previous age because coverage wasn't great so these might be one of the few chances you'd get to see your heroes.
Nowadays though, it's rare for their to be a day when there isn't a race of some kind on Eurosport, so is there such a need for fixed criteriums? I suppose there must be as they're still operating but I can't really understand who'd pay to go and see one.
You get an afternoon/evening out, a party atmosphere and a peloton of the worlds best riders on a 1/2km crit course coming by every 3 or 4 minutes for about €10. Bargain!"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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From what a saw in Aalst last year, the cafes and restaurants probably stump up funding via the local chamber of commerce. If it works for Yorkshire it can work for small Belgium towns..Half man, Half bike0
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19668029#p19668029]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:what's the appearance money like at these things
I can understand how back in the day a rider would make, proportionately, a lot of money but with Sagan on a reported $4m it can't be that important financially
Well Froome made 50k from one post-Tour crit alone in 2013, I just dont think many riders whose salaries are in the 2/3/4m mark tend to go 'you know, I've got enough money, I cant be bothered'. Pocketing that kind of easy spondoolies for rolling around a crit course and play-racing...easy money in the bank, why not...
Going off a tangent but been catching up on the backstage pass and noted that Durbridge re-uses his race number and saves all the others (I guess they get a new set each day), signs them and sells them on ebay for about AUD300 a pop. Nice little earner. But just goes to show that the pros do tend to maximise earnings through all avenues while they can... one crash and everything could be gone.0 -
so who's paying that much money, and why?
Events are ticketed & sponsors pay too.
It's an interesting one. You could perhaps understand their appeal in a previous age because coverage wasn't great so these might be one of the few chances you'd get to see your heroes.
Nowadays though, it's rare for their to be a day when there isn't a race of some kind on Eurosport, so is there such a need for fixed criteriums? I suppose there must be as they're still operating but I can't really understand who'd pay to go and see one.
Quite right. Why would anyone go and see sport in person when they could just watch it on TV?! :?0 -
so who's paying that much money, and why?
Events are ticketed & sponsors pay too.
It's an interesting one. You could perhaps understand their appeal in a previous age because coverage wasn't great so these might be one of the few chances you'd get to see your heroes.
Nowadays though, it's rare for their to be a day when there isn't a race of some kind on Eurosport, so is there such a need for fixed criteriums? I suppose there must be as they're still operating but I can't really understand who'd pay to go and see one.
Quite right. Why would anyone go and see sport in person when they could just watch it on TV?! :?
Forget TV, you can just follow it on twitter... much better insight 0 -
so who's paying that much money, and why?
Events are ticketed & sponsors pay too.
It's an interesting one. You could perhaps understand their appeal in a previous age because coverage wasn't great so these might be one of the few chances you'd get to see your heroes.
Nowadays though, it's rare for their to be a day when there isn't a race of some kind on Eurosport, so is there such a need for fixed criteriums? I suppose there must be as they're still operating but I can't really understand who'd pay to go and see one.
Quite right. Why would anyone go and see sport in person when they could just watch it on TV?! :?
It's fixed though, so not really sport, is it? If they were competitive then fair enough, but I don't see the appeal of watching something you know the result of beforehand. Each to their own though.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19668029#p19668029]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:what's the appearance money like at these things
I can understand how back in the day a rider would make, proportionately, a lot of money but with Sagan on a reported $4m it can't be that important financially
Well Froome made 50k from one post-Tour crit alone in 2013, I just dont think many riders whose salaries are in the 2/3/4m mark tend to go 'you know, I've got enough money, I cant be bothered'. Pocketing that kind of easy spondoolies for rolling around a crit course and play-racing...easy money in the bank, why not...
Going off a tangent but been catching up on the backstage pass and noted that Durbridge re-uses his race number and saves all the others (I guess they get a new set each day), signs them and sells them on ebay for about AUD300 a pop. Nice little earner. But just goes to show that the pros do tend to maximise earnings through all avenues while they can... one crash and everything could be gone.
Witness Adam Blyth's firesale of all his old BMC gear on one of the "Bike Parts for Sale" facebook groups. Wheels, skin suits, a job lot of socks..."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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It's fixed though, so not really sport, is it? If they were competitive then fair enough, but I don't see the appeal of watching something you know the result of beforehand. Each to their own though.
Doesn't matter in the end really. It's about the spectacle and the crowd and you can't beat seeing them in person.0 -
It's fixed though, so not really sport, is it? If they were competitive then fair enough, but I don't see the appeal of watching something you know the result of beforehand. Each to their own though.
Doesn't matter in the end really. It's about the spectacle and the crowd and you can't beat seeing them in person.
I find it really heartening that the post-Tour crits still exist. The crowds come out to pay tribute to the riders and the result doesn't really matter (apart from the winner being the right one!). The bars and cafes make some money, the riders make some money, the crowds see the big names, everyone goes home happy. What's not to like?It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.0 -
Who's gonna break the news that the Saitama Crit in Oct is fixed :shock: 0
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