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pblakeney

Is there an age limit for this cool kids club?

It has been quite some time since I was last referred to as a cool kid.

sloppyschleckonds

bendertherobot wrote:

Or did the dog move at the last moment?

The dog wasn't on a lead, and probably made haphazard directional changes as the cyclist approached.

Matthewfalle

Why wasn't it on a lead? Was Douglas Bader not in control of his dog therefore causing potential DEATH and INJURY to the poor, innocent, harmless cyclist.

as an aside, is black mamba or whatever his name is still cross? If so, please don't be. It just makes you ugly inside.

the_hundredth_idiot

Are there forums for dog owners? I ask because my son trod in some dog shit at the weekend so I want to join the relevant forum and remind dog owners to pick up their dog's poo.

Just in case anyone thinks I hate all dog owners, I am also a dog owner.

veronese68

The Hundredth Idiot wrote:

Just in case anyone thinks I hate all dog owners, I am also a dog owner.

Do you hate yourself too? Your user name would indicate that you are not entirely at peace with yourself. Don't worry, we'll do all we can to help and support you through this.

Flâneur

We help people here? First I've heard.

Maybe some trolling maybe not, but perhaps take responsibility for the situation yourself, and think fuck half the world, especially in Neston, are, well, interesting and you should probably ride with heightened awareness and be prepared for common problems such as dogs and children on a shared path

bendertherobot

Looks nice mind. Plenty of space.
http://northwalesmtb.proboards.com/thre ... cycle-path

dodgy

Chris Bass wrote:

why is all the responsibility all on the cyclist? you were on a shared path too, you should have known that bikes would be also using it and going past and chose not to have your dog on a lead. ?

Think about strict liability, what many cyclists (who know what it is) are trying to get the UK to adopt. In this case, the strict liability would be to the 'vehicle' carrying the most risk; the cyclist.

I know this path VERY well indeed, it's part of my commute route and also I use it to get to Wales on longer weekend rides. There is most certainly a problem with riders going too fast here when there are kids, wheelchairs, dog walkers all using the path. I've seen large peletons (I'm looking at you Runcorn Cycling Club) going for it along there, I even shouted my disapproval at the time.

So unless anyone on this thread has specific knowledge of this path, you might want to consider that just once every now and again, it is the cyclist at fault.

homers_double

Pft, commuting isn't real cycling anyway, it's a way for poor people to get to and from work.

dodgy

Sucks when someone comes along to support the OP, doesn't it?

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/che ... cess-19371

Matthewfalle

So, on the one hand we have a poor INNOCENT cyclist GENTLY pottering to where he or she is going, minding their own business, saying their hellos and smiling and singing, hurting and offending no one and then comes along Baron Von Richtoffen with his RABID ATTACK DOG that is busy SHHYYYTTTTING BITING SNARLING GROWLING SNAPPING RIPPING at small children and their toys in their prams and suddenly innocent cyclist, probably guilty of no other crime than blood doping is the EVIL BASSSsTARD in the whole affair?

If this is the case the society is funded. Finito. Kaput. Futu.

I think black mamba man and Baron von Richtoffen owe us an apology ...........

Flâneur

dodgy wrote:

Sucks when someone comes along to support the OP, doesn't it?

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/che ... cess-19371

Burton not Neston ain't it. These details matter.

HD - not sure anyone here rides never mind commutes.

MatthewF - why does it have to be the Baron eh

mfin

dodgy wrote:

Sucks when someone comes along to support the OP, doesn't it?

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/che ... cess-19371

The right design of speed bumps could solve that?
Or some sort of radar speed detection triggered paint stripper sprinkler system?
Or those cyclists not being tossers?

Matthewfalle

Or errant dog owners not having dogs that are busy RAPING and FIGHTING and SPITTING and SPREADING THE EBOLAIDS while the rest of the world is trying to get to the shops to buy flowers, biscuits and make donations to charity.

Essentially AC Plonk needs to APOLOGISE TO US THE INNOCENT PEOPLE OF THE FORUM.

homers_double

I ran over a cat once...

Matthewfalle

homers double wrote:

I ran over a cat once...

Now that's funny........

dodgy

sa0u823e wrote:

dodgy wrote:

Sucks when someone comes along to support the OP, doesn't it?

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/che ... cess-19371

Burton not Neston ain't it. These details matter.

It's the same path that both the OP and that article are talking about.

Have you ridden it?

bobmcstuff

mfin wrote:

dodgy wrote:

Sucks when someone comes along to support the OP, doesn't it?

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/che ... cess-19371

The right design of speed bumps could solve that?
Or some sort of radar speed detection triggered paint stripper sprinkler system?
Or those cyclists not being tossers?

Or just joining strava and marking all the relevant segments as hazardous would be fine...

There's a long flat shared use path coming into Aberdeen (disused railway), it's very easy to carry a lot of speed along it but also dangerous if it is busy (on summer evenings it always is). The whole thing is marked hazardous on strava.

Flâneur

dodgy wrote:

sa0u823e wrote:

dodgy wrote:

Sucks when someone comes along to support the OP, doesn't it?

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/che ... cess-19371

Burton not Neston ain't it. These details matter.

It's the same path that both the OP and that article are talking about.

Have you ridden it?

Yep far too many times to even consider counting. I would need matthewfalle's hands and toes to do that.

Just had to ensure the OP knew where he was riding, given the tiny path on blue signs into Neston through the little park

If it was the part down past Netts to the Harp I have one view and if it was the Marshes to the wooden decking another. The final stretch I could probably make up a third view.

sloppyschleckonds

mfin wrote:

dodgy wrote:

Sucks when someone comes along to support the OP, doesn't it?

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/che ... cess-19371

Or those cyclists not being tossers?

They are tossers, they've always been tossers, now they are tossers on a bike on a shared bike path, using Strava.

pblakeney

The problem is that people think cycle paths are for cycling on, including cyclists.
The are designed to be pooled along.
If you are fit enough, fast enough, and want to cycle, stick to the roads.

Matthewfalle

ahhh - Strava racers. That sums it all up. Then throw a club into the mix and you have a whole minestrone of f'tards.

TDLO wouldn't stand for this. She's lovely.

meursault

I don't like those dog owners with the long leads, they let them run all over the cycle paths near me.

But most dog owners are responsible.

Joeblack

Did either you or the dog jump a red light? I'm talking in the time immediately preceding the incident?

Matthewfalle

Did he wave at passing doggers? If not, then is this the beginning of the demise of the doggers' wave?

dodgy

sa0u823e wrote:

dodgy wrote:

sa0u823e wrote:

dodgy wrote:

Sucks when someone comes along to support the OP, doesn't it?

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/che ... cess-19371

Burton not Neston ain't it. These details matter.

It's the same path that both the OP and that article are talking about.

Have you ridden it?

If it was the part down past Netts to the Harp I have one view and if it was the Marshes to the wooden decking another. The final stretch I could probably make up a third view.

I think that's very fair, but I've still seen large groups speeding along past Net's over the speed humps. On a nice day, you still get families with OAPs, kids on trikes etc etc well into the firing range bit, that's why the problem extends pretty much all the way to Deeside. All depends on the day, midweek you could run a time trial along there, there's nobody about, but weekends are a different matter, especially when it's sunny. I completely avoid it under those conditions and go via the Chester High Road and Burton village instead.

pinno

bendertherobot wrote:

Looks nice mind. Plenty of space.
http://northwalesmtb.proboards.com/thre ... cycle-path

Don't worry folks, there won't be a single cyclist on this stretch by mid December when all that decking goes green and slippy.

RAFcyclist wrote:

First Aspect wrote:

thegreatdivide wrote:

I think...to hate.

...what if it had been a child, or indeed your child or pet that was injured or worse, would you still react the same way? I doubt it

Its sooo easy to avoid this for a cyclist, why take the risk to your bike if you don't care about anything else?

oh and not even sure what trolling is? but this is genuine.

Sorry about your dog. Cyclists are a beleaguered bunch. We get sh1t from all angles but your use of the 'if it had been a child' is the sort of cr4p the Gestapo , sorry, Health and Safety use to come up with the most mind boggling bureaucratic nonsense. He did not hit a child, full stop.

I'd like to hear from the cyclist so we can have a balanced view.

Flâneur

Matthewfalle wrote:

Did he wave at passing doggers? If not, then is this the beginning of the demise of the doggers' wave?

I often moo or baa at the relevant animals but only when cycling

pinno

sa0u823e wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

Did he wave at passing doggers? If not, then is this the beginning of the demise of the doggers' wave?

I often moo or baa at the relevant animals but only when cycling

Yes, you are often found cycling through fields, aren't you?

cornerblock

I hit a pigeon the other day, the thing just flew into my wheel. I looked back, it didn't look good, a soon to be ex-pigeon I think. I felt bad, for a while.