BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴

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  • drhaggis
    drhaggis Posts: 1,150
    darkhairedlord wrote:
    Mad_Malx wrote:
    Boris will spin TM's WA, with modified backstop, as having gained massive concessions.
    Like the massive concessions Cameron got before brexit.

    Well, he got a "get out of further integration, free" card. Which coupled with existing potential mechanisms to stop benefit claims from recent migrants, was the biggest issue of leavers. Right? Right? Right?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    TheBigBean wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    NICK TIMOTHY GETS A TITLE.



    F*CK OFF.

    That is hilarious. :lol:

    Less funny is convicted criminal Boycott getting a gong.

    It was a French conviction so will no longer count after Brexit. One of the main reasons for leaving was so we could have our own laws remember.
    Were you unfortunate to catch him bullsh*ting his way through the interview this morning? He claimed that French law presumed guilt among other nonsense.

    For a bit of balance.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews ... -case.html
    Here’s the original bbc report, complete with battered face photo.
    During the trial, the court was told that Boycott pinned Miss Moore down and punched her 20 times in the face before checking out and leaving her to pay the bill.

    "Boycott denied the allegations, saying 45-year-old Miss Moore had slipped after flying into a rage when he refused to marry her"..

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/211569.stm
    I mean, come on.
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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    ^ Yeah well, gammon do wot gammon do, na'ar mean?
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    NICK TIMOTHY GETS A TITLE.



    F*CK OFF.

    That is hilarious. :lol:

    Less funny is convicted criminal Boycott getting a gong.

    It was a French conviction so will no longer count after Brexit. One of the main reasons for leaving was so we could have our own laws remember.
    Were you unfortunate to catch him bullsh*ting his way through the interview this morning? He claimed that French law presumed guilt among other nonsense.

    For a bit of balance.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews ... -case.html
    Here’s the original bbc report, complete with battered face photo.
    During the trial, the court was told that Boycott pinned Miss Moore down and punched her 20 times in the face before checking out and leaving her to pay the bill.

    "Boycott denied the allegations, saying 45-year-old Miss Moore had slipped after flying into a rage when he refused to marry her"..

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/211569.stm
    I mean, come on.

    There is a photo in the article I posted along with an explanation consistent with Boycott's statement.
  • Lagrange
    Lagrange Posts: 652
    I don't understand a word of the last page. But I don't really give a toss about brexit to be honest. Whatever makes people happy. :D
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    Lagrange wrote:
    I don't understand a word of the last page. But I don't really give a toss about brexit to be honest. Whatever makes people happy. :D

    I am glad it is not just me - I have no idea what Boycott has to do with Brexit
  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    Surrey Commuter wrote:
    Lagrange wrote:
    I don't understand a word of the last page. But I don't really give a toss about brexit to be honest. Whatever makes people happy. :D

    I am glad it is not just me - I have no idea what Boycott has to do with Brexit
    He's Gammon. Brexit is the Gammon Revolution.
  • knedlicky
    knedlicky Posts: 3,097
    Surrey Commuter wrote:
    Lagrange wrote:
    I don't understand a word of the last page. But I don't really give a toss about brexit to be honest. Whatever makes people happy. :D

    I am glad it is not just me - I have no idea what Boycott has to do with Brexit
    Not a long while back, Boycott said something like Remainers were like spoiled children and they deserved a smack.
    Old school !
  • cycleclinic
    cycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    Or a punch in the face. He had form on that apparently.

    Could the WA get through this time. Is reality finally starting to bite. Is Bojo a more humble now his wings are clipped.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    thecycleclinic wrote:
    Or a punch in the face. He had form on that apparently.

    Could the WA get through this time. Is reality finally starting to bite. Is Bojo a more humble now his wings are clipped.

    ERG will still vote against it and so will labour and likely Lib Dem’s.

    Can’t see how it passes
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  • robert88
    robert88 Posts: 2,696
    Surrey Commuter wrote:
    Lagrange wrote:
    I don't understand a word of the last page. But I don't really give a toss about brexit to be honest. Whatever makes people happy. :D

    I am glad it is not just me - I have no idea what Boycott has to do with Brexit

    Brexit is clearly not Cricket and like Boycott, Jacob Rees Mogg is a Cad, a Bounder and should be horse whipped on the steps of Parliament.
  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    thecycleclinic wrote:
    Or a punch in the face. He had form on that apparently.

    Could the WA get through this time. Is reality finally starting to bite. Is Bojo a more humble now his wings are clipped.

    ERG will still vote against it and so will labour and likely Lib Dem’s.

    Can’t see how it passes
    The threat of no deal isn't to get the EU on board, it's to get enough waiverers at home to sign up. I think they will go with NI only backstop subject NI only referendum. They will jettison the DUP if they can get support elsewhere.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,554
    Prorogation ruled unlawful in Scottish court.
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  • carbonclem
    carbonclem Posts: 1,784
    TheBigBean wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    NICK TIMOTHY GETS A TITLE.



    F*CK OFF.

    That is hilarious. :lol:

    Less funny is convicted criminal Boycott getting a gong.

    It was a French conviction so will no longer count after Brexit. One of the main reasons for leaving was so we could have our own laws remember.
    Were you unfortunate to catch him bullsh*ting his way through the interview this morning? He claimed that French law presumed guilt among other nonsense.

    For a bit of balance.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews ... -case.html

    Boycott, a columnist for Telegraph Sport, said: ...
    2020/2021/2022 Metric Century Challenge Winner
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    rjsterry wrote:
    Prorogation ruled unlawful in Scottish court.

    Oh dear. Not a good week for Bojo. But then no week is a good week for Bojo.

    PS tee hee......
    Faster than a tent.......
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    darkhairedlord wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    thecycleclinic wrote:
    Or a punch in the face. He had form on that apparently.

    Could the WA get through this time. Is reality finally starting to bite. Is Bojo a more humble now his wings are clipped.

    ERG will still vote against it and so will labour and likely Lib Dem’s.

    Can’t see how it passes
    The threat of no deal isn't to get the EU on board, it's to get enough waiverers at home to sign up. I think they will go with NI only backstop subject NI only referendum. They will jettison the DUP if they can get support elsewhere.

    By law BoJo needs to genuinely ask for an extension if he can't get a deal past parliament. Given his promises about leaving come what may on 31st October, I can't see why the opposition would give him the opportunity to get that victory.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    rjsterry wrote:
    Prorogation ruled unlawful in Scottish court.

    Goes to supreme court, presumably.
    _
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,554
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    darkhairedlord wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    thecycleclinic wrote:
    Or a punch in the face. He had form on that apparently.

    Could the WA get through this time. Is reality finally starting to bite. Is Bojo a more humble now his wings are clipped.

    ERG will still vote against it and so will labour and likely Lib Dem’s.

    Can’t see how it passes
    The threat of no deal isn't to get the EU on board, it's to get enough waiverers at home to sign up. I think they will go with NI only backstop subject NI only referendum. They will jettison the DUP if they can get support elsewhere.

    By law BoJo needs to genuinely ask for an extension if he can't get a deal past parliament. Given his promises about leaving come what may on 31st October, I can't see why the opposition would give him the opportunity to get that victory.

    I think forcing an extension purely to hurt Johnson would be a pyrrhic victory for Labour.
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    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    rjsterry wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    darkhairedlord wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    thecycleclinic wrote:
    Or a punch in the face. He had form on that apparently.

    Could the WA get through this time. Is reality finally starting to bite. Is Bojo a more humble now his wings are clipped.

    ERG will still vote against it and so will labour and likely Lib Dem’s.

    Can’t see how it passes
    The threat of no deal isn't to get the EU on board, it's to get enough waiverers at home to sign up. I think they will go with NI only backstop subject NI only referendum. They will jettison the DUP if they can get support elsewhere.

    By law BoJo needs to genuinely ask for an extension if he can't get a deal past parliament. Given his promises about leaving come what may on 31st October, I can't see why the opposition would give him the opportunity to get that victory.

    I think forcing an extension purely to hurt Johnson would be a pyrrhic victory for Labour.

    Why, do you think they would be slammed in the polls harder than they have been already?
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Prorogation ruled unlawful in Scottish court.

    Goes to supreme court, presumably.

    From FT
    https://www.ft.com/content/43a146f0-149 ... fa28e809e9
    David Allen Green, a contributor to the Financial Times who specialises in law, says he has not seen such a court decision in 30 years of "constitutional geekery" and working on legal issues.

    He points out that Scottish law is different to the law of England and Wales, which includes a different approach to constitutional law matters.

    A matter that is unconstitutional can also be unlawful in Scotland, even if held to be lawful by the High Court, he says on Twitter. He puts the chances of the action succeeding in London as “zero”.
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,554
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    darkhairedlord wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    thecycleclinic wrote:
    Or a punch in the face. He had form on that apparently.

    Could the WA get through this time. Is reality finally starting to bite. Is Bojo a more humble now his wings are clipped.

    ERG will still vote against it and so will labour and likely Lib Dem’s.

    Can’t see how it passes
    The threat of no deal isn't to get the EU on board, it's to get enough waiverers at home to sign up. I think they will go with NI only backstop subject NI only referendum. They will jettison the DUP if they can get support elsewhere.

    By law BoJo needs to genuinely ask for an extension if he can't get a deal past parliament. Given his promises about leaving come what may on 31st October, I can't see why the opposition would give him the opportunity to get that victory.

    I think forcing an extension purely to hurt Johnson would be a pyrrhic victory for Labour.

    Why, do you think they would be slammed in the polls harder than they have been already?

    I was thinking slightly more long term. It's all very well defeating Johnson but they need to be *for* something.
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    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    rjsterry wrote:
    I was thinking slightly more long term. It's all very well defeating Johnson but they need to be *for* something.

    They need to be able to explain succinctly why they are for a deal but not this deal. If they are.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,329
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Prorogation ruled unlawful in Scottish court.

    Goes to supreme court, presumably.

    From FT
    https://www.ft.com/content/43a146f0-149 ... fa28e809e9
    David Allen Green, a contributor to the Financial Times who specialises in law, says he has not seen such a court decision in 30 years of "constitutional geekery" and working on legal issues.

    He points out that Scottish law is different to the law of England and Wales, which includes a different approach to constitutional law matters.

    A matter that is unconstitutional can also be unlawful in Scotland, even if held to be lawful by the High Court, he says on Twitter. He puts the chances of the action succeeding in London as “zero”.
    No doubt the SNP will be happy either way.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Curious that Rees-Mogg, Banks, Barclay Bros, Leadsom's husband and brother in law were all named in the paradise papers.

    EU has that kind of behaviour firmly in their sights, naturally. UK has a patchy record when it comes to transparency in tax havens.
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  • Longshot
    Longshot Posts: 940
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Curious that Rees-Mogg, Banks, Barclay Bros, Leadsom's husband and brother in law were all named in the paradise papers.

    EU has that kind of behaviour firmly in their sights, naturally. UK has a patchy record when it comes to transparency in tax havens.

    Indeed.
    You can fool some of the people all of the time. Concentrate on those people.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,554
    People's PMQs no. 2.

    Forensic holding to account it was not.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,412
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Curious that Rees-Mogg, Banks, Barclay Bros, Leadsom's husband and brother in law were all named in the paradise papers.

    EU has that kind of behaviour firmly in their sights, naturally. UK has a patchy record when it comes to transparency in tax havens.
    In what way?

    We are signed up to all the EU initiatives on that front currently and have quite a few bits and pieces in our domestic legislation also.
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,554
    “Neither Nigel Farage nor Arron Banks are fit and proper persons and they should never be allowed anywhere near government.”

    So that's a no to the election pact.
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    David Allen Green
    @davidallengreen
    ·
    5m
    Today, in summary

    For the first time a court - and not just any court, but the highest court of one of the constituent nations of the United Kingdom - ruled that the Prime Minister had knowingly misled the Sovereign

    If
    @UKSupremeCourt
    concurs, the Prime Minister must resign
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,554
    TailWindHome wrote:
    David Allen Green
    @davidallengreen
    ·
    5m
    Today, in summary

    For the first time a court - and not just any court, but the highest court of one of the constituent nations of the United Kingdom - ruled that the Prime Minister had knowingly misled the Sovereign

    If
    @UKSupremeCourt
    concurs, the Prime Minister must resign
    Yes, it's kind of a big deal. Or at least it should be.
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