Very High pollution warnings issued for Friday

tea boy
tea boy Posts: 11
edited April 2015 in Commuting chat
Through much of South East England:
http://uk-air.defra.gov.uk/

"Adults and children with lung problems, adults with heart problems, and older people, should avoid strenuous physical activity. People with asthma may find they need to use their reliever inhaler more often."

I'm going to avoid the main roads in London as much as possible that day. it's worth noting, however, that people in cars generally breath in more fumes than those on Bikes.
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  • Man Of Lard
    Man Of Lard Posts: 903
    tea boy wrote:
    it's worth noting, however, that people in cars generally breath in more fumes than those on Bikes.

    Also worth noting that a lot of people reading here don't live in SE England either :mrgreen:
  • DJFish
    DJFish Posts: 49
    As a recently outed asthmatic that's really useful info, thanks....
  • rubertoe
    rubertoe Posts: 3,994
    Man Of Lard wrote:
    tea boy wrote:
    it's worth noting, however, that people in cars generally breath in more fumes than those on Bikes.

    Also worth noting that a lot of people reading here don't live in SE England either :mrgreen:


    How very dare you..... :wink:
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  • UndercoverElephant
    UndercoverElephant Posts: 5,796
    Lovely green patch on that map over my house. I don't know how the Londoners survive.
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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    It would be nice to know what numerical values tally with the ratings....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_qualit ... ed_Kingdom

    I'm going to be cycling in this on Sunday
    Pollutant AQI (India)
    CO 21
    NO2 39
    O3 32
    PM10 236
    PM2.5 126

    Well into the very high......and it's like that all the time!
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,310
    Let's take the canal path then... 8)
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    UndercoverElephant wrote:
    Lovely green patch on that map over my house. I don't know how the Londoners survive.

    MTFU?

    No worse than the guff provincial bastards come up with about PLUs or whatever.
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  • Kieran_Burns
    Kieran_Burns Posts: 9,757
    According to that map the French are smelly.
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  • dodgy
    dodgy Posts: 2,890
    I heard this on the radio earlier, their advice was:

    1. Stay away from busy roads (fumes)
    2. Don't exert oneself too much
    3. Take extra precautions for elderly

    There wasn't a 4th one suggesting that perhaps people should leave their precious cars at home for one single fecking day. Talk about blaming the victims.

    We have such a long way to go.
  • t4tomo
    t4tomo Posts: 2,643
    So it's all blowing in from the smelly French then? UKIP will have a field day
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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,800
    Kieran_Burns wrote:
    According to that map the French are smelly.
    You needed a map to tell you that?
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,310
    Took the canal path this morning... didn't notice any Beijing style pollution... sounds like a lot of bollox in the absence of anything to say about the elections
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  • tangled_metal
    tangled_metal Posts: 4,021
    It seems that the only low area in Cumbria is Ennerdale valley and perhaps the Loweswater one judging by the small fork of green there. How can they be so precise about those tiny pockets being lower than the surroundings?

    Anyway, do we really need a map to tell us there's more polution in London and the south east than the a lot of Scotland? I love the morning Radio 4 programme that explained the source of the problem being pollution from mainland Europe combining with our own pollution. Evil foreign pollution combining with our own nice English pollution perhaps? Do you think R4 in the morning are drifting UKIP??? Afterall there;s politics in everything.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    R4 is fodder for middle aged middle class people, who wistfully pine for times where you could have a few sherries before driving home and who's entire 'comfortable' pension relies on constant inflation of house prices.
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  • TheStone
    TheStone Posts: 2,291
    Very noticeable last night and this morning.

    And a lot less bikes out, despite the very nice weather.
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  • tangled_metal
    tangled_metal Posts: 4,021
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    R4 is fodder for middle aged middle class people, who wistfully pine for times where you could have a few sherries before driving home and who's entire 'comfortable' pension relies on constant inflation of house prices.

    So do you listen then? It sounds like your post is based on experience of what you like. Hard to work out ages on here sometimes so take no offence by this.
  • fat_tail
    fat_tail Posts: 786
    Tangled Metal wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    R4 is fodder for middle aged middle class people, who wistfully pine for times where you could have a few sherries before driving home and who's entire 'comfortable' pension relies on constant inflation of house prices.

    So do you listen then? It sounds like your post is based on experience of what you like. Hard to work out ages on here sometimes so take no offence by this.

    I like radio 4 - I reckon one can get an education simply from listening to it (including the Archers for an agricultural perspective). And I suppose I do rely on constant inflation of house prices as well. :oops:
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Tangled Metal wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    R4 is fodder for middle aged middle class people, who wistfully pine for times where you could have a few sherries before driving home and who's entire 'comfortable' pension relies on constant inflation of house prices.

    So do you listen then? It sounds like your post is based on experience of what you like. Hard to work out ages on here sometimes so take no offence by this.

    I'm 27.

    Don't like listening to it. Have had to during car rides with parents etc, though they eventually tire of the middle aged chat too.
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  • davis
    davis Posts: 2,506
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    R4 is fodder for middle aged middle class people, who wistfully pine for times where you could have a few sherries before driving home and who's entire 'comfortable' pension relies on constant inflation of house prices.

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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Don't like listening to it. Have had to during car rides with parents etc, though they eventually tire of the middle aged chat too.
    How terribly ageist of you!

    I can't stand R4 and must count as nearly middle aged (48 - 50 is the new 30 by the way).

    Still lots of people cycling here, despite the pm10 being at 2.5 times what the UK class as very high pollution levels!
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    The Rookie wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Don't like listening to it. Have had to during car rides with parents etc, though they eventually tire of the middle aged chat too.
    How terribly ageist of you!

    Ah if I accused radio 1 of being young person noise full of verbs and nouns I don't understand you wouldn't accuse me of being ageist. ( I do understand btw ;), but just making the point).

    Calm down ;).
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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    Indeed not, that's not ageist its a sign of being mature and cultured. :wink:
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  • tangled_metal
    tangled_metal Posts: 4,021
    Is early 40s middle aged? BTW my other main pre-set channel is Radio 1. On my DAB or online it is R1extra. The BBC asian network actually has some good stuff on it too (got into modernish Bangra when at school in Blackburn and some modern Asian music is really good).

    So I bet you appreciate us oldies muscling in on you young folk stations too. I actually like the mix of inane chatter from R1 and R1 extra mixed in with pipe and slippers R4 chat. Takes allsorts doesn't it (just none of them with liquourice in them).
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    Early 40's isn't middle aged, no, that's somewhere in the 50's now!

    Personally I like R5 live.
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  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    I listen to the today programme on R4 most mornings, i'm 38.

    R4 is the best place for radio documentaries (especially on science).

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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,259
    The Rookie wrote:
    Early 40's isn't middle aged, no, that's somewhere in the 50's now!

    Personally I like R5 live.
    You are in denial.
    Average male expectancy in the UK is 77.88.
    Mid age is 38.94.
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  • UndercoverElephant
    UndercoverElephant Posts: 5,796
    PBlakeney wrote:
    The Rookie wrote:
    Early 40's isn't middle aged, no, that's somewhere in the 50's now!

    Personally I like R5 live.
    You are in denial.
    Average male expectancy in the UK is 77.88.
    Mid age is 38.94.
    It is downhill from there. Make the most of it.
    As a cyclist I find the phrase, "It's all downhill from here!", supremely edifying.
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  • dyrlac
    dyrlac Posts: 751
    Was a bit blurgy in London this am, but I was on a boris bike (off to watch FFC play out the string this evening, a task that will certainly require far too many sharpeners to ride home afterward), so I probably just noticed more of it.
    PBlakeney wrote:
    The Rookie wrote:
    Early 40's isn't middle aged, no, that's somewhere in the 50's now!

    Personally I like R5 live.
    ...
    Mid age is 38.94.
    ...

    :D Excellent, I have .02 more years of youth! (Although I do have the Today Programme on in the background every morning)
    UndercoverElephant wrote:
    As a cyclist I find the phrase, "It's all downhill from here!", supremely edifying.

    And amen to that.
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  • TheStone
    TheStone Posts: 2,291
    Is it still bad? Do I have an excuse to go to the pub instead of riding home?
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