Gotta Love comments on cycling on non cycling websites

chris_bass

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2015/01/london ... erhighway/

Some great comments at the bottom of that! soothsayer is a good read!

capt_slog

There was a video about Poynton that caught my eye....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vzDDMzq7d0#t=763

Quite a surprise, I never thought that could work.

team47b

Capt Slog wrote:

There was a video about Poynton that caught my eye....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vzDDMzq7d0#t=763

Quite a surprise, I never thought that could work.

Continuos Flow slow speed turns out to be quicker than stop start, great solution!

markhewitt1978

Chris Bass wrote:

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2015/01/london-tells-cars-to-bugger-off-by-turning-embankment-into-a-cycle-superhighway/

Some great comments at the bottom of that! soothsayer is a good read!

And he's a cyclist too. You tend to find that the ones who argue loudest against decent cycling infrastructure are cyclists. Usually committed roadies who will cycle down a three lane dual carriageway for fun.

veronese68

markhewitt1978 wrote:

Chris Bass wrote:

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2015/01/london-tells-cars-to-bugger-off-by-turning-embankment-into-a-cycle-superhighway/

Some great comments at the bottom of that! soothsayer is a good read!

And he's a cyclist too. You tend to find that the ones who argue loudest against decent cycling infrastructure are cyclists. Usually committed roadies who will cycle down a three lane dual carriageway for fun.

There is definitely an element of that. I've had the same argument on here (in the commuting section) with people that have argued against better infrastructure. I did point out to one particularly vocal one that when his new born child started cycling he may see things differently. I am more concerned that my wife and kids feel safe enough when cycling than I am about trying to get another KOM on Strava*.

* That's assuming I had any.

byke68

"Lycra Monkeys"! are they the same as Northern Monkeys?

pinno

Capt Slog wrote:

There was a video about Poynton that caught my eye....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vzDDMzq7d0#t=763

Quite a surprise, I never thought that could work.

Taking away the kerbs seems to have removed the perceived ownership of space or territory.

I think Pelican crossings work much better than traffic light operated pedestrian crossings. In Eastbaaaawn, there were lots of Pelican crossings and it was easy to cross the road. When there is a pedestrian crossing, steel barriers pop up for some reason. People press the button, wait and then cross anyway because of a gap in traffic. The lights go red and the traffic stops with no one waiting to cross the road.

When the process is formalised by lights, it is impersonal and somehow enforced with no one giving a damn. When it is informal, people act with altruistic spontaneity!
Nowt queer as folk.

rick_chasey

Veronese68 wrote:

markhewitt1978 wrote:

Chris Bass wrote:

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2015/01/london-tells-cars-to-bugger-off-by-turning-embankment-into-a-cycle-superhighway/

Some great comments at the bottom of that! soothsayer is a good read!

And he's a cyclist too. You tend to find that the ones who argue loudest against decent cycling infrastructure are cyclists. Usually committed roadies who will cycle down a three lane dual carriageway for fun.

There is definitely an element of that. I've had the same argument on here (in the commuting section) with people that have argued against better infrastructure. I did point out to one particularly vocal one that when his new born child started cycling he may see things differently. I am more concerned that my wife and kids feel safe enough when cycling than I am about trying to get another KOM on Strava*.

* That's assuming I had any.

Known as 'vehicular cyclists'.

Remember I was part of the school representation for proposal to change the layout of a bridge right by the school which had witnessed 2 students killed cycling to school.

The local 'cycling' rep was actually the only guy who was against any change to the infrastructure on the bridge (which in mine, and a lot of other people's mind, was a principal cause of the deaths).

He too was a 'vehicular cyclist'

chris_bass

yeah, although I have read many of his posts on other articles and to say he is a cyclist is about the same as saying I'm a hiker because I have previously walked to a bus stop or train station