Stereotypes - a ramble

Flâneur
Flâneur Posts: 3,081
edited January 2015 in The bottom bracket
The internet is a wonderful place, so after a conversation I had earlier today (well the lecture I got) I thought I'd throw it out for the sense and sensibility of the BB.

After being lectured about throwing away another perfectly good relationship, I was sternly told that I manage to make people think I am one thing as I dress in tailored suits etc and not just for work, so people go oh look Sa0u823e is X then they talk to me and find out actually I wear lycra, ski, climb, read book after book and are suddenly shocked and feel misled.

Do others find that too many people are shocked by their hobbies, passions lifestyles when it isn't shown by how they dress?

I long ago (too late if I am honest) stopped writing people off or created preconceptions before I had spoken to them and I thought this was something most people did after a certain age.
Don't get me wrong I question some peoples dress sense or their table manners but I try, and sometimes consciously to make sure I don't write their story before they tell me.


Random ramblings of a guy who shaves his legs. Don't expect much sense
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,325
    sa0u823e wrote:
    I long ago (too late if I am honest) stopped writing people off or created preconceptions before I had spoken to them and I thought this was something most people did after a certain age.
    Step 1 is admirable and how people should treat each other.
    Step 2 is wrong and your main misconception. If anything, stereotypes are generally built to outrageous levels with old age.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • tim_wand
    tim_wand Posts: 2,552
    When you say suits, You do really mean this kind don't you? Unless your in Court again of course!

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    But back to your original question. Only a fool trusts in Stereotypes :wink:
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,396
    sa0u823e wrote:
    After being lectured about throwing away another perfectly good relationship, I was sternly told that I manage to make people think I am one thing as I dress in tailored suits etc and not just for work, so people go oh look Sa0u823e is X then they talk to me and find out actually I wear lycra, ski, climb, read book after book and are suddenly shocked and feel misled.

    Do others find that too many people are shocked by their hobbies, passions lifestyles when it isn't shown by how they dress?
    If you wear suits outside of work then that probably send quite a strong message to people who will make assumptions, much more so than someone like me who only wears them to work. Although in London where so many people are wearing suits when you see them in the working day there's probably less of it down here.

    I get people stereotyping me based on my line of work - I guess downhilling accountants are not ten a penny, but then again I'm not a typical accountant (hopefully) :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • arran77
    arran77 Posts: 9,260
    I don't even wear a suit when I'm at work let alone when I'm not :lol:
    "Arran, you are like the Tony Benn of smut. You have never diluted your depravity and always stand by your beliefs. You have my respect sir and your wife my pity" :lol:

    seanoconn
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,396
    arran77 wrote:
    I don't even wear a suit when I'm at work let alone when I'm not :lol:
    Neither do bog cleaners. I'm forming a sterotype about you right now :wink:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • arran77
    arran77 Posts: 9,260
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    arran77 wrote:
    I don't even wear a suit when I'm at work let alone when I'm not :lol:
    Neither do bog cleaners. I'm forming a sterotype about you right now :wink:

    Likewise :P
    "Arran, you are like the Tony Benn of smut. You have never diluted your depravity and always stand by your beliefs. You have my respect sir and your wife my pity" :lol:

    seanoconn
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    arran77 wrote:
    I don't even wear a suit when I'm at work let alone when I'm not :lol:

    Quite right too. Why wear a suit if you don't have to. I've worked in an office environment for 20 years and wear a suit only when I absolutely can't get away with not wearing one. Perhaps the most uncomfortable, pointless clothing ever invented. Whatever happened to individuality when people are forced to conform.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,396
    Joelsim wrote:
    arran77 wrote:
    Whatever happened to individuality when people are forced to conform.
    I'll make do with some loud ties and silly cufflinks if they pay me enough to conform :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • arran77
    arran77 Posts: 9,260
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    arran77 wrote:
    Whatever happened to individuality when people are forced to conform.
    I'll make do with some loud ties and silly cufflinks if they pay me enough to conform :)

    Wage slave :P
    "Arran, you are like the Tony Benn of smut. You have never diluted your depravity and always stand by your beliefs. You have my respect sir and your wife my pity" :lol:

    seanoconn
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    sa0u823e wrote:
    After being lectured about throwing away another perfectly good relationship, I was sternly told that I manage to make people think I am one thing as I dress in tailored suits etc and not just for work, so people go oh look Sa0u823e is X then they talk to me and find out actually I wear lycra, ski, climb, read book after book and are suddenly shocked and feel misled.

    Do others find that too many people are shocked by their hobbies, passions lifestyles when it isn't shown by how they dress?
    If you wear suits outside of work then that probably send quite a strong message to people who will make assumptions, much more so than someone like me who only wears them to work. Although in London where so many people are wearing suits when you see them in the working day there's probably less of it down here.

    I get people stereotyping me based on my line of work - I guess downhilling accountants are not ten a penny, but then again I'm not a typical accountant (hopefully) :)


    Downhill accounting is better than uphill gardening, IMHO. I accept that my view is not universal.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,396
    arran77 wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    arran77 wrote:
    Whatever happened to individuality when people are forced to conform.
    I'll make do with some loud ties and silly cufflinks if they pay me enough to conform :)

    Wage slave :P
    And you're not? :wink:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,396
    Ballysmate wrote:
    Downhill accounting is better than uphill gardening, IMHO. I accept that my view is not universal.
    I've often wondered why so many people on this forum have extolled the virtues of 'going uphill'. Must be a roadie thing?
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • arran77
    arran77 Posts: 9,260
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    arran77 wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    arran77 wrote:
    Whatever happened to individuality when people are forced to conform.
    I'll make do with some loud ties and silly cufflinks if they pay me enough to conform :)

    Wage slave :P
    And you're not? :wink:

    I'm more a 'work to live' kind of a person :D
    "Arran, you are like the Tony Benn of smut. You have never diluted your depravity and always stand by your beliefs. You have my respect sir and your wife my pity" :lol:

    seanoconn
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,396
    arran77 wrote:
    I'm more a 'work to live' kind of a person :D
    That's a 'Yes', then :P
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • arran77
    arran77 Posts: 9,260
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    arran77 wrote:
    I'm more a 'work to live' kind of a person :D
    That's a 'Yes', then :P

    Sadly it is :cry:

    I often talk about if its possible to drop out of society but I reckon you'd be hard pushe'd to these days.
    "Arran, you are like the Tony Benn of smut. You have never diluted your depravity and always stand by your beliefs. You have my respect sir and your wife my pity" :lol:

    seanoconn
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,396
    arran77 wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    arran77 wrote:
    I'm more a 'work to live' kind of a person :D
    That's a 'Yes', then :P

    Sadly it is :cry:

    I often talk about if its possible to drop out of society but I reckon you'd be hard pushe'd to these days.
    Unless you fancy your chances as a wino?

    Better to stay in and live a lot :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    What's wrong with tailored suits?
  • Flâneur
    Flâneur Posts: 3,081
    To the above I like wearing suits, for ages after school I hated ties, recently started wearing them again. I rarely need a suit at work (would always have one hanging up in case) but they look good they work for any occasion, easy to dress up or down.

    Yeah but London is a place where u can wear whatever and only occasionally does anyone raise an eyebrow. Paris no one blinks when I wear a suit.

    Going uphill is hard work, some of us like to earn our downhills....
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,396
    sa0u823e wrote:
    Going uphill is hard work, some of us like to earn our downhills....
    Cheeky sod, I pay £30 a day for mine.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,813
    arran77 wrote:
    I often talk about if its possible to drop out of society but I reckon you'd be hard pushe'd to these days.
    PW77's role model:
    ss3512392_-_photograph_of_richard_briers_as_tom_good_from_the_good_life_available_in_4_sizes_framed_or_unframed_buy_now_at_starstills__04824_zoom.jpg
    If only he could get hold of a young Felicity Kendall...
  • Suits in your day to day life? So you're sitting around at home or with mates in a suit? Is your comfie clothes a suit too? I have one old stuff that probably is very dated and unlikely to fit, I was a bit bigger back then. I'll never need a suit with work. I'm unlikely to go to any family or friend event needing a suit. Hey I don't even want to be buried in one neither. Shove me 6 feet under in whatever I was wearing when I died, like I'll care.

    Seriously I I can not imagine wanting to wear a suit except under duress.

    Can I stereotype you? Are you a southerner?
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,316
    In my line of work, the number of times some placement personnel from all sorts of gomement quango's turn up and my first thought is wtf? hairy, bearded, messy, vacant. spaced out, in another world, messy - filthy even. Then you get talking to them and you realise that they are only human. The best volunteers I had were a recovering alcoholic/criminal and an ex drug dealer who had done a stretch of 9 years. If you had read their 'palmares' before accepting the placement, you would never have taken them on. Despite all this and the people who have come through my door, I never felt/was threatened and I have and they have always kept in touch.
    So I never judge a book by it's cover. Pity I couldn't say that about a lot of people I meet !
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  • team47b
    team47b Posts: 6,425
    What's wrong with tailored suits?

    Nothing, but isn't it about dressing appropriately for any given situation?

    What is appropriate is decided by society as a whole, this being an example of stereotyping at its 'best' :D

    (Last time I wore a suit was When I had to go to the Palace, Buckingham, not Chrystal)
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  • arran77
    arran77 Posts: 9,260
    Veronese68 wrote:
    arran77 wrote:
    I often talk about if its possible to drop out of society but I reckon you'd be hard pushe'd to these days.
    PW77's role model:
    ss3512392_-_photograph_of_richard_briers_as_tom_good_from_the_good_life_available_in_4_sizes_framed_or_unframed_buy_now_at_starstills__04824_zoom.jpg
    If only he could get hold of a young Felicity Kendall...

    If only indeed :twisted:

    The Good Life isn't dropping out in my opinion, I'm talking a narrow boat and just moving about as and when you fancy it 8)
    "Arran, you are like the Tony Benn of smut. You have never diluted your depravity and always stand by your beliefs. You have my respect sir and your wife my pity" :lol:

    seanoconn
  • slowmart
    slowmart Posts: 4,516
    Veronese68 wrote:
    [quote="arran77"
    If only he could get hold of a young Felicity Kendall…

    Since its a Monday, here you go..

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    “Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime. Teach a man to cycle and he will realize fishing is stupid and boring”

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  • Monkeypump
    Monkeypump Posts: 1,528
    Suits in your day to day life? So you're sitting around at home or with mates in a suit? Is your comfie clothes a suit too? I have one old stuff that probably is very dated and unlikely to fit, I was a bit bigger back then. I'll never need a suit with work. I'm unlikely to go to any family or friend event needing a suit. Hey I don't even want to be buried in one neither. Shove me 6 feet under in whatever I was wearing when I died, like I'll care.

    Seriously I I can not imagine wanting to wear a suit except under duress.

    Can I stereotype you? Are you a southerner?

    What about interviews? Weddings? Funerals?

    Don't you like to look smart, just occasionally?
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    I'd love to have a few made to measure suits. I wouldn't wear one all the time but nice tailoring always looks good.
  • tim_wand
    tim_wand Posts: 2,552
    WTF is wrong with you lot? 3 frames up is Flic Kendals Breasts covered in Meat Juices^^^^^^^^ and your still banging on about Suits. are you one of these guys???

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    I don't want to stereotype but I thought everyone on here was at least in their 40's.
  • I don't mind wearing a suit every now and again, but I'm glad I don't have to wear one all the time. Luckily at work we only ever wear a suit if we have visitors from the Far East, otherwise we wear what we want.
    As for going out, I'd rather go to place where I can wear jeans and a t-shirt. I might get a few strange looks wearing a suit in the pubs/clubs that I go to.

    As this is BB, someone must wear a suit at work, then when they get home put on their Gimp suit?
  • arran77
    arran77 Posts: 9,260
    tim wand wrote:
    WTF is wrong with you lot? 3 frames up is Flic Kendals Breasts covered in Meat Juices^^^^^^^^ and your still banging on about Suits.

    I'd quite happily cover her breasts in my meat juices :twisted:
    As this is BB, someone must wear a suit at work, then when they get home put on their Gimp suit?

    Sounds like Stevo from what I hear :lol:
    "Arran, you are like the Tony Benn of smut. You have never diluted your depravity and always stand by your beliefs. You have my respect sir and your wife my pity" :lol:

    seanoconn