Planet X CT45's?

jpower
jpower Posts: 554
edited October 2014 in Road buying advice
So I was originally looking for a spare wheel set for my wives hybrid 700c, but then came up with a blinding idea, to let her have my stock Spec AXIS 2.0 leaving me to buy a set of wheels, however at reasonable low budget compared to wheel sets out there nowadays.

I can see the Plant X CT45's at £399 with 0% option too and that sounds like it fits into my wallet very nicely, just wondering what the opinion out there was on that wheelset or if there was something comparable at that price point?
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  • jpower
    jpower Posts: 554
    that bad?
  • alan_sherman
    alan_sherman Posts: 1,157
    Did you do a search? I think there was something complimentary on here when they first came out. On paper they look to be a good solid build if a little heavy. But they are a good price.
  • jpower
    jpower Posts: 554
    alan sherman wrote:
    Did you do a search? I think there was something complimentary on here when they first came out. On paper they look to be a good solid build if a little heavy. But they are a good price.
    Yeah I read the old threads when they first came out, just thought I might get some post ownership info here, but am thinking at that price it doesn't really leave any other options.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,312
    On the back of an envelope, the rims must be around 600 grams per piece, which make them into pretty heavy things to accelerate or carry on a long day on the hills.
    I guess it's the classic wheelset for those who want to be seen riding deepish rims and feel inadequate with anything shallow and if you have your own company I suppose you can use them as advertising space too.

    For something more performing, you can buy similarly deep carbon tubulars that weigh half of that for similar money from China, if you are happy to take a punt
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  • jpower
    jpower Posts: 554
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    On the back of an envelope, the rims must be around 600 grams per piece, which make them into pretty heavy things to accelerate or carry on a long day on the hills.
    I guess it's the classic wheelset for those who want to be seen riding deepish rims and feel inadequate with anything shallow and if you have your own company I suppose you can use them as advertising space too.

    For something more performing, you can buy similarly deep carbon tubulars that weigh half of that for similar money from China, if you are happy to take a punt
    Damn that sounds a lot like ME :D

    Any links for clinchers at half the price? I would take a punt on that, but be handy to know others have tried them.
  • NeXXus
    NeXXus Posts: 854
    I have a pair of the new 52mm clinchers and love them thus far. Considered heavy if I'm honest but they're really not much heavier than my higher end Ksyrium wheelset
    And the people bowed and prayed, to the neon god they made.
  • jpower
    jpower Posts: 554
    Which ones? Price?

    Just found these would they be a better bet then the CT45? http://www.tredz.co.uk/.Mavic-Cosmic-Ca ... _68171.htm can't figure out if they are tubs or clinchers?
  • NeXXus
    NeXXus Posts: 854
    Planet X 52mm :)
    And the people bowed and prayed, to the neon god they made.
  • slowbike
    slowbike Posts: 8,498
    jpower wrote:
    Which ones? Price?

    Just found these would they be a better bet then the CT45? http://www.tredz.co.uk/.Mavic-Cosmic-Ca ... _68171.htm can't figure out if they are tubs or clinchers?

    RTFD .... ;)
    Cosmic Carbone SLS features time-proven Mavic carbon capabilities, blending aerodynamics and high stiffness, with one of the lightest aero clincher rims.
  • jpower
    jpower Posts: 554
    NeXXus wrote:
    Planet X 52mm :)
    Good to hear. Anyone provide a diff between the 45 and 52 there the same price.

    Please ignore Mavic's I listed thats for one wheel, knew it was too good to be true :D
  • NeXXus
    NeXXus Posts: 854
    jpower wrote:
    NeXXus wrote:
    Planet X 52mm :)
    Good to hear. Anyone provide a diff between the 45 and 52 there the same price.
    About 7mm :lol:
    And the people bowed and prayed, to the neon god they made.
  • jpower
    jpower Posts: 554
    NeXXus wrote:
    jpower wrote:
    NeXXus wrote:
    Planet X 52mm :)
    Good to hear. Anyone provide a diff between the 45 and 52 there the same price.
    About 7mm :lol:
    Nice :D

    In ride terms, hills, flats, acceleration etc?
  • NeXXus
    NeXXus Posts: 854
    jpower wrote:
    NeXXus wrote:
    jpower wrote:
    NeXXus wrote:
    Planet X 52mm :)
    Good to hear. Anyone provide a diff between the 45 and 52 there the same price.
    About 7mm :lol:
    Nice :D

    In ride terms, hills, flats, acceleration etc?
    Can't really answer that without a comparison. But I've done a great deal of all 3 though, yet to find fault with them
    And the people bowed and prayed, to the neon god they made.
  • jpower
    jpower Posts: 554
    Very tempting. Is £399 really a sale price or it's always like that, just wondering if I should take more time thinking or its going to move back to full price. Can't find any discount codes either, that would seal the deal.
  • NeXXus
    NeXXus Posts: 854
    Yes it is FFS, I paid £550 for mine 2 very recently :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
    And the people bowed and prayed, to the neon god they made.
  • jpower
    jpower Posts: 554
    NeXXus wrote:
    Yes it is FFS, I paid £550 for mine 2 very recently :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
    :shock: sorry.

    OK last word anyone able to offer any advice between selecting 45 or 52 then I'm done, honest, for now anyway.
  • NeXXus
    NeXXus Posts: 854
    jpower wrote:
    NeXXus wrote:
    Yes it is FFS, I paid £550 for mine 2 very recently :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
    :shock: sorry.

    OK last word anyone able to offer any advice between selecting 45 or 52 then I'm done, honest, for now anyway.
    Not your fault :lol:
    And the people bowed and prayed, to the neon god they made.
  • jpower
    jpower Posts: 554
    all over 45's on order
  • alan_sherman
    alan_sherman Posts: 1,157
    IIRC the 52mm use a narrower rim whilst the 45s use the current thinking of a wider rim so the tyre seats in a 'wider' profile. So in theory the 45s should provide a bit more comfort, whilst the 52s should be a bit more aerodynamic.

    Check the details on the PX site though.

    If you intend running 25c tyres the 45s make more sense too due to the wider rim. It may not fit in some bikes with very narrow chain/seatstays.

    If you are after a single wheelset for use whatever the wind is doing then the 45s make more sense as they should be less affected by crosswinds. To be honest a set of handbuilts make more sense for a single wheelset...

    I have some mavic cosmic carbones which are similar to the 52s. Aero, a bit heavy so better for time trials and maintaining speed rather than crit racing accelerations. They look lovely, make a fantastic noise, and have been reliable even though I'm 85kg. One drawback is I can't hang the bike up from the wall hook due to the carbon fairing, so I've gone back to my 32 spoke handbuilts!
  • jpower
    jpower Posts: 554
    alan sherman wrote:
    IIRC the 52mm use a narrower rim whilst the 45s use the current thinking of a wider rim so the tyre seats in a 'wider' profile. So in theory the 45s should provide a bit more comfort, whilst the 52s should be a bit more aerodynamic.

    Check the details on the PX site though.

    If you intend running 25c tyres the 45s make more sense too due to the wider rim. It may not fit in some bikes with very narrow chain/seatstays.

    If you are after a single wheelset for use whatever the wind is doing then the 45s make more sense as they should be less affected by crosswinds. To be honest a set of handbuilts make more sense for a single wheelset...

    I have some mavic cosmic carbones which are similar to the 52s. Aero, a bit heavy so better for time trials and maintaining speed rather than crit racing accelerations. They look lovely, make a fantastic noise, and have been reliable even though I'm 85kg. One drawback is I can't hang the bike up from the wall hook due to the carbon fairing, so I've gone back to my 32 spoke handbuilts!
    Thanks looks like the 45's may have been the right choice for me. No 0% for me though as that for above £500
  • dwanes
    dwanes Posts: 954
    Out of curosity, I see some manufacturers boasting about wider rim on their tubular wheels.
    On tubular wheels does a wider rim make any differance to ride quality, I would have thought a tubular tyre is the same shape no matter how wide the rim is?
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,312
    dwanes wrote:
    Out of curosity, I see some manufacturers boasting about wider rim on their tubular wheels.
    On tubular wheels does a wider rim make any differance to ride quality, I would have thought a tubular tyre is the same shape no matter how wide the rim is?

    True, but the trend is for bigger tubs too... 25 and even 27-28
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  • gotwood25
    gotwood25 Posts: 314
    Can't believe you can get the tubs for £299!!
    http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/WPPXF45/planet-x-ct45-carbon-tubular-wheelset
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,312
    gotwood25 wrote:
    Can't believe you can get the tubs for £299!!
    http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/WPPXF45/planet-x-ct45-carbon-tubular-wheelset

    And a much better set
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  • rudivoller22
    rudivoller22 Posts: 492
    Stupid question maybe but will the wider rim still take 23mm tubs?

    Must be worth a punt as a foray into tubs?
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,312
    rudivoller22 wrote:
    Stupid question maybe but will the wider rim still take 23mm tubs?

    Must be worth a punt as a foray into tubs?

    yes
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  • Miles253
    Miles253 Posts: 535
    How do you rate the hubs on these Ugo?
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  • rudivoller22
    rudivoller22 Posts: 492
    would the brake performance be any better with different pads - black prince or the like?

    Really want a set of Zipps/ENVE but as a starter set and intro to tubs seems like a pretty decent deal for 20% of the price. The braking can't be that bad can it??
  • pmannion9
    pmannion9 Posts: 287
    Wonder how they would compare to these at same price?
    http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/WPSFSPC/se ... r-wheelset
  • gotwood25
    gotwood25 Posts: 314
    pmannion9 wrote:
    Wonder how they would compare to these at same price?
    http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/WPSFSPC/se ... r-wheelset

    Well they look better for starters :shock:

    I have the CT45 tubs and I think they are amazing wheels (especially for the money), light and they spin for what seems like forever. The pads that come with them are half decent but wear very quickly so I use yellow kings now, much better performance but you have to clean your rim (insert arse gag here) all the time which is not much of a hardship as it comes off easily with nail polish remover.

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