Weight loss in 10 Miles/1hr rides advice pls

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  • WILL 1 AM
    WILL 1 AM Posts: 132
    Just looking at a general graph for HRM for my age, so what does LTHR mean ? Seeing as I haven't quite have a grasp of fitness related stuff

    Thanks
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    WILL 1 AM wrote:
    Just looking at a general graph for HRM for my age, so what does LTHR mean ? Seeing as I haven't quite have a grasp of fitness related stuff

    Thanks

    Lactate Threshold HR. Using a general graph is about as useful as looking at numbers in the phone book. You need to establish your own levels, if you have any intention of using HR seriously.
  • WILL 1 AM
    WILL 1 AM Posts: 132
    Nah, gonna just use it for fun, thanks for your input
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    really?
  • diy
    diy Posts: 6,473
    I would disagree, while it is important to set levels and baselines properly if you really want to understand the data and get the most out of it, its still helpful to know raw output against standardised tables for age etc. All other things being equal it will tell you if you are working as hard as you think you are.
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    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,315
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  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    diy wrote:
    I would disagree, while it is important to set levels and baselines properly if you really want to understand the data and get the most out of it, its still helpful to know raw output against standardised tables for age etc. All other things being equal it will tell you if you are working as hard as you think you are.

    Sorry - this is complete and utter nonsense. The only thing that matters is your own HR data - comparing it to anyone else's, or any theoretical tables is thoroughly and comprehensively pointless.
  • diy
    diy Posts: 6,473
    Plenty of research that says you'll still be reasonably accurate with a measured RHR and a calculated MHR to determine training zones. You do not need to have funtional or stress test done to get the basics. If your RHR is normal for age then the standard charts will be of some use. My own tests were pretty much within 10%, though a tiny bit optimistic on the calculated method. But then I doubt many people have a RHR of 34-36bpm, which probably screwed the formulea a little.

    To the OP you may find this site worth a read.
    http://www.brianmac.co.uk/index.htm

    You'll need your Resting HR and your age to get the basics.
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  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Unless you can explain to me why resting heart rate is important when you are riding at threshold, then just accept that RHR is really not relevant. For training zones, what matters is either MHR or LTHR. The only effective way to establish them is to test them.

    Also, do you genuinely believe that 10% is an acceptable margin of error for working out your MHR??? That would put my MHR up to 18bpm below or above my actual max. That's an entire training zone's worth of error, ffs.
  • diy
    diy Posts: 6,473
    Are you familiar with the Karvonen method of calculating training zones?

    In this method you use HRR (max - resting) and set the zones as a %age of this.
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  • paulfarquharson
    paulfarquharson Posts: 4
    When you say you only have one hour... do you mean one hour a day or....?

    What does your week look like?
  • WILL 1 AM
    WILL 1 AM Posts: 132
    diy, Thanks I shall have a read up on that, hopefully its not too hard to get my head round it.

    Re the Hour I have, Kinda like I have an Hour spare before heading into work, before picking up the son from school or an Hour before the missus gets home from work in the afternoon.

    On days off (3 day :D I still head out for an hour as I'm the only one around during the day and I get bored, so the hour rule prevents me getting bored or too tired for the rest of the day.
  • diy
    diy Posts: 6,473
    If it was me (and thats the only thing I can really base it on) I'd be building a 10 min warm up cool down either end and then find some nice hills or fast flats and build in some high intensity interval training - half a dozen short sprints with recovery sets and maybe a 10 minute pace workout in the middle following by some more sprinting.

    Its all about keeping your muscles "guessing" and keeping the sprints short, so that you can push your max.
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  • team47b
    team47b Posts: 6,425
    Increase riding time by getting a turbo trainer and wedge it in front of the fridge door :D
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  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    diy wrote:
    If it was me (and thats the only thing I can really base it on) I'd be building a 10 min warm up cool down either end and then find some nice hills or fast flats and build in some high intensity interval training - half a dozen short sprints with recovery sets and maybe a 10 minute pace workout in the middle following by some more sprinting.

    Its all about keeping your muscles "guessing" and keeping the sprints short, so that you can push your max.

    For weight loss?
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