Tour de Yorkshire (no, not deja vu)

deejay

ducknumber1 wrote:

Honestly, I think I've learnt more in this thread about Yorkshire, this is far more educational than skool ever was.

Next, you have to find somebody who understands the dialect of the inhabitants of Cleckheaton and Heckmondwike.
Nowt like any other Yorkie accents. :roll:

gsk82

Teams announced. I'm a bit underwhelmed, i expected more WT teams with it being an ASO event.

BMC RACING TEAM

IAM CYCLING

TEAM GIANT-ALPECIN

TEAM LOTTO NL-JUMBO

TEAM SKY

COFIDIS, SOLUTIONS CREDITS

CULT ENERGY PRO CYCLING

MTN - QHUBEKA

TEAM EUROPCAR

ROOMPOT ORANJE PELOTON

TOPSPORT VLAANDEREN-BALOISE

MADISON GENESIS

NFTO

ONE PRO CYCLING

TEAM WIGGINS

GREAT BRITAIN NATIONAL TEAM



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ddraver

Salsiccia1 wrote:

OCDuPalais wrote:

as much use as Anne Frank's drum kit

You bad man

Oh god I'm going to hell

pinno

What's the low down on Team Wiggins? How many links have they with say Team SKY and the British National team?

RichN95.

pinarello001 wrote:

What's the low down on Team Wiggins? How many links have they with say Team SKY and the British National team?

Quite a few. Wiggins himself obviously. Sky are a sponsor. And the rest of the GB pursuit squad (minus Clancy) ride for them.

Wiggins alone gets them an invite. How they decide between the other UK teams I have no idea.

inseine

Tha Maserati tour de Yorkshire
Says a lot about where cycling is in 2015

frenchfighter

Rules were bent so Wiggins can switch from Sky to Team Wiggins and ride for them.

Also surprised there are very few WT teams there given how they know the route is a good one plus the support from the fans is great. Maybe the timing is off and next year teams will be able to rejig their schedules a bit better.

yorkshireraw

It's a UCI 1.1 event so out of 16 teams they could have a max of 8 WT teams (50%). Not sure how many teams total are allowed though i.e. if they had 18 teams they could have 9 WT teams.

They've got 5 WT teams for a new event that clashes with Romandie (WT - so all WT teams have to ride) and Turkey (HC). The Giro starts 6 days after and TOC (HC) 7 days later - teams will be all over the place.

RichN95.

Five World Tour teams is above average for a .1 race.

Pross

Had it in my head that this was going to be a .HC race for some reason :?

PeteinSQ

There has been some grumbling on twitter as to which british teams were included. Some complaining that JLT Condor and Raleigh should have got a look in rather than the small continental teams.

For me that would have made this more like a Premier Calender event - and who would want that given they already exist?

PeteinSQ

Plus Johnny Hoogerland rides for ROOMPOT ORANJE PELOTON, and he's a legend (sort of).

milton50

Disappointing that there's no EQS but there you go

ddraver

PeteinSQ wrote:

There has been some grumbling on twitter as to which british teams were included. Some complaining that JLT Condor and Raleigh should have got a look in rather than the small continental teams.

For me that would have made this more like a Premier Calender event - and who would want that given they already exist?

I have to agree

I think that's a pretty good haul of WT teams for a no name, new race that means nothing to anyone (unless your british obviously).

EnnBee

gsk82 wrote:

Teams announced. I'm a bit underwhelmed, i expected more WT teams with it being an ASO event.

Look at Picardie - that only got seven WT teams last year despite being an ASO race in France. The restricting factors for the TdY are (a) dates and (b) distance. It's a long way for the European teams to travel when many have their service course in Belgium. Heck, most WT teams don't want to come to RideLondon now because it's too much hassle for a one-day. Velothon Wales will struggle to get many at all.

PeteinSQ wrote:

There has been some grumbling on twitter as to which british teams were included. Some complaining that JLT Condor and Raleigh should have got a look in rather than the small continental teams.

For me that would have made this more like a Premier Calender event - and who would want that given they already exist?

JLT Condor won 10 UCI races last year. The other British UCI Conti teams didn't win that combined. And yet newbies like ONE Pro Cycling get in. How does that work?

Eight man teams for the TdY is a shame; ASO should have gone for six, like the Tour of Britain. The racing would be far more entertaining then.

frenchfighter

Agreed on 8 man team. Overkill.

ozzzyosborn206

I do feel sorry for JLT not getting in when there is the Wiggins team and the GB dev team which are essentially the same thing.

lyn1

ozzzyosborn206 wrote:

I do feel sorry for JLT not getting in when there is the Wiggins team and the GB dev team which are essentially the same thing.

I appreciate that traditionally BC have put their Academy riders into this type of race, although the entry appears to be "GB National Team". In which case guys whose teams have not entered, if they are not racing elsewhere, could race (eg Cavendish, Thwaites) as could Clancy, Moses, Briggs from JLT or Edmondson from An Post.
Cannot see it happening though.

gsk82

Did a recce of the stage 1 route today. It made the group of us LOL that one of the cycling journos said the stage is likely to end in a sprint. If that stage ends in a sprint i'll eat my tyre. There's 25% climbs littered throughout it, the hardest of which is only about 20km from the finish.

Anyway here's my ride on Strava (if it works) https://app.strava.com/activities/270847456

frenchfighter

Wow thats a lot of elevation. Solid ride for a Thursday in March!

ddraver

Where did you hit 80k?!?

FJS

gsk82 wrote:

Did a recce of the stage 1 route today. It made the group of us LOL that one of the cycling journos said the stage is likely to end in a sprint. If that stage ends in a sprint i'll eat my tyre. There's 25% climbs littered throughout it, the hardest of which is only about 20km from the finish.

Anyway here's my ride on Strava (if it works) https://app.strava.com/activities/270847456

Nice ride. You'd think they wouldn't underestimate Yorkshire anymore after last year's Sheffield stage, right? With that run in it could well be a sprint, but a reduced group one. Something for Swifty?

gsk82

ddraver wrote:

Where did you hit 80k?!?

I think it was heading down in to scarborough near the end, I saw 45mph on my screen there when i looked down anyway. The descent into Robin Hoods Bay will be taken at a sickening speed by the pros.

Cheers FF. We're looking to do it as a one off club run the week before the pros so wanted to do a recce.

gsk82

FJS wrote:

gsk82 wrote:

Did a recce of the stage 1 route today. It made the group of us LOL that one of the cycling journos said the stage is likely to end in a sprint. If that stage ends in a sprint i'll eat my tyre. There's 25% climbs littered throughout it, the hardest of which is only about 20km from the finish.

Anyway here's my ride on Strava (if it works) https://app.strava.com/activities/270847456

Nice ride. You'd think they wouldn't underestimate Yorkshire anymore after last year's Sheffield stage, right? With that run in it could well be a sprint, but a reduced group one. Something for Swifty?

I was thinking he'd be a good bet. My worry though would be that if Sky had someone like Kennaugh in the break with a couple more WT riders it would be race over for the rest, 8 man teams will help negate that though and may be the reason they've gone with that. If the weather is bad don't be surprised to see 20 or 30 abandon.

Der Kaiser

I think this is ASO trying to get a foothold in the UK with a view to taking over the ToB.

It looks like a great event I am just disappointed it doesn't come anywhere near where I live in Shropshire

pinno

Der Kaiser wrote:

I think this is ASO trying to get a foothold in the UK with a view to taking over the ToB.

It looks like a great event I am just disappointed it doesn't come anywhere near where I live in Shropshire

Would that be a bad thing to raise the ToB to a higher status given the rise in the popularity of cycling in the UK?
Would it not be better have one event instead of 2? How many WT teams are really going to do both?

the article don

They'll go down that hill into Robin Hood's Bay??? Good lord!! That's got to be worth going to see. Walking up that with a pram was bloody gruelling

FJS

pinarello001 wrote:

Der Kaiser wrote:

I think this is ASO trying to get a foothold in the UK with a view to taking over the ToB.

It looks like a great event I am just disappointed it doesn't come anywhere near where I live in Shropshire

Would that be a bad thing to raise the ToB to a higher status given the rise in the popularity of cycling in the UK?
Would it not be better have one event instead of 2? How many WT teams are really going to do both?

Sorry, but no. The UK still has a ridiculously low amount of UCI events, for a country its size. 2 is better than 1, 10 better than 2.
WT teams are going to make a decision based on where a race sits in the calendar and its parcours, not whether they've already done one in that country

pinno

FJS wrote:

pinarello001 wrote:

Der Kaiser wrote:

I think this is ASO trying to get a foothold in the UK with a view to taking over the ToB.

It looks like a great event I am just disappointed it doesn't come anywhere near where I live in Shropshire

Would that be a bad thing to raise the ToB to a higher status given the rise in the popularity of cycling in the UK?
Would it not be better have one event instead of 2? How many WT teams are really going to do both?

Sorry, but no. The UK still has a ridiculously low amount of UCI events, for a country its size. 2 is better than 1, 10 better than 2.
WT teams are going to make a decision based on where a race sits in the calendar and its parcours, not whether they've already done one in that country

The calender is pretty full from the Classica San Sebastian to the Dauphine to the grand tours, the classics, Tirreno Adriatico to the World Champs. All getting a bit diluted? Add suntour, the Tour down under, the tour of Langkawi, the Tour of Poland (which clashes). 1 decent WT event in the UK lasting 5 to 7 days with at least 8 WT teams as a regular on the calender would suit me fine.

Tour of Denmark, Tour of Sweden, Tour of Belguim, Tour of Holland, Paris Nice, Het von Loop googolgoop mark 6, trois jours de Panne, Tour de Suisse, Catalan Tour, Tour of Yemen or is that Dubai or the UAE, can't remember...

thefog

Der Kaiser wrote:

I think this is ASO trying to get a foothold in the UK with a view to taking over the ToB.

It looks like a great event I am just disappointed it doesn't come anywhere near where I live in Shropshire

ASO bid for the contract to run the ToB from last year when the deal was up for renewal. Sweetspot won deservingly, having slowly built up the race, with some good entries in recent years. It will only get better.

ASO are just seeing £££ with local authorities paying out for most of the staging fees (60% of last years TdF). I'm not sure TdY will last beyond the 3 years unless big sponsors step in and they haven't so far.