Iraq Mk 3 (plus Syria)

mr_goo

Arthur Scrimshaw wrote:

ukiboy wrote:

Not when those cnuts are beheading innocent folk who are out there trying to help those less fortunate...
Carpet bomb the feckers I say!

IS don't have the monoply on beheading, it seems to be a Middle Eastern speciality. Saudi Arabia for example have beheaded 45 people this year, most of them migrant workers who don't speak the language and don't understand the arcane (and often unwritten) laws they are accused of breaking. One example last year was a 16 year old Sri Lankan girl illegally smuggled into the Country and working as a maid. Of course the West don't make a big deal over these executions as it would sour relations.

22 beheadings in Saudi just in August. The Kingdom is the most medieval and barbaric country in the world. But the West are only dealing with them as it makes economic sense. Weapons exports for oil imports. Simple as that. If it were not for that black stuff Saudi would be regarded as a pariah state, worse than any other in that region.

On another note regarding Saudi and the other Sunni muslim Gulf states, they are known to have wealthy influential individuals sponsoring ISIS and terrorism throughout the region and world. Now that these countries are cornered into a coalition fighting alongside the West. I expect that we will see some unrest in these countries, as the general population will see it as fighting their own kin.

VTech

I think that the problem is that because we have not suffered huge losses of life we don't appreciate the amount of life that actually has been lost. We have sencus calculations of people, in the middle east and parts of russia complete civilisations are being wiped out.

I think many people need to wake up to the fact that this planet is at war and has been for some years.

mamba80

Mr Goo wrote:

22 beheadings in Saudi just in August.
The Kingdom is the most medieval and barbaric country in the world. But the West are only dealing with them as it makes economic sense. Weapons exports for oil imports. Simple as that. If it were not for that black stuff Saudi would be regarded as a pariah state, worse than any other in that region.

Not really, in terms of executions, China far out strips our Saudi "friends" but of course we all stay quiet about that, as we all want our cheap consumerist toys.
the method of execution might upset us but to the victim I doubt it makes any difference whether they are beheaded or hung, esp if they never did the crime!

We deal with and buy from whoever makes it cheapest and as you say, who has the oil, not very inspiring is it?

ballysmate

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... worst.html

Isis are at the Turkish border, where Turkey has stationed tanks. If they cross into Turkey, a member of Nato, would that be a game changer?

thegreatdivide

VTech wrote:

Mr Goo wrote:

Gotta laugh. Putin claims that the US led bombing of IS/ISIS in Syria was a violation of Syrian Sovereignty. This from the patron saint of territorial integrity.

I would imagine that here lyes the strongest threat to global peace.
WW3 has already started, I would expect as many deaths as the world had in WW1 and WW2 combined.
It already totals millions in the past few years alone.

What a lot of tosh. It is nowhere near 'millions in the past few years alone'. What planet are you on? Do some proper research.

UN figures put the casualties since the start of the Syrian conflict (that’s not ISIS but the start of the conflict so includes ISIS) at 191,000

Since the start of the Iraq Insurgency (post 2011) it’s estimated at around 31,000 dead however this will no doubt go up quite a bit in the coming months.

Do you know how many people are thought to have been killed in WWI? About 37 million.

Do you know how many people are thought to have been killed in WWII? Between 60 to 85 million.

So that's a safe estimate of 110 million in both wars.

mamba80

When I read this, I cant help thinking "why aren't there more terrorists in the world?"

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinio ... 49913.html

slowmart

I wouldn't worry about the tinder box of the middle east as we are all going to bleed out with Ebola.