Calling all Edge 1000 owners - advice please
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Great - Thanks Bar Shaker - glad you enjoyed riding in the Cotswolds! Was nice to see thr TOB passing through yesterday0
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The thing I do not like about the 1000 is the way it forces you via Garmin Connect. I know you can take the data from GC to other places, but it is a pretty buggy and slow bit of software and I do not want it to be my gateway to Trainer Road, Strava, Veloviewer etc.
If only there was a Stravawatch.0 -
Dippydog2 wrote:The thing I do not like about the 1000 is the way it forces you via Garmin Connect. I know you can take the data from GC to other places, but it is a pretty buggy and slow bit of software and I do not want it to be my gateway to Trainer Road, Strava, Veloviewer etc.
If only there was a Stravawatch.
I do wonder how long before Strava make hardware... I don't see Garmin ever changing making you upload direct to Connect from wireless. But if you don't want to go to Connect then to auto update to 3rd parties - just plug it in to your computer and do it manually - aint that hard
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Dippydog2 wrote:The thing I do not like about the 1000 is the way it forces you via Garmin Connect. I know you can take the data from GC to other places, but it is a pretty buggy and slow bit of software and I do not want it to be my gateway to Trainer Road, Strava, Veloviewer etc.
If only there was a Stravawatch.
Last night, I finished my ride at the garden of my local pub. Pressed 'pause', pressed 'end ride', pressed 'save'. I put my lock on my bike, went to the bar and ordered a pint (San Miguel, in case you are curious). I was served straight away, as the bar was empty. By the time I sat down with my pint, my ride was on Strava, via GC. It really isn't an issue.
What I would like to see is Strava segments on my 1000, rather than GC segments. This will only happen when Strava make a head unit and then Garmin unlock the uploads, to stop the tsunami of buyers migrating to Strava.
Or if they wake up, sign a licensing deal with Strava and pre-empt it.
Or when someone hacks the Garmin OS, which I am surprised no one has done.Boardman Elite SLR 9.2S
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dubbs2009 wrote:And in steps Apple.... With the new New Apple Watch....
Now - this could be a game changer... I have halted my desire to buy a 1000 now... Surely a device that Apple makes will be better than a Garmin one - plus it's usable by runners, can have apps installed and do a lot more than the 1000 - price looks cheaper than a 1000 as well! 2015 it will arrive...
<span class="skimlinks-unlinked">http://www.bikehugger.com/post/view/apple-watch-fulfills-prophecy-ushers-in-new-era-of-fitness-ui</span>
What are people's thoughts?
A smart phone device will never be a replacement for a dedicated cycle computer. A phone is for phone calls.I ride a bike. Doesn't make me green or a tree hugger. I drive a car too.0 -
Bar Shaker wrote:My 1000 used 10% of its battery per hour when in full navigation use and 6% per hour in non navigation mode.
Dont assume that this will hold through the whole batter charge - most devices quickly drop from 100% down to something like 98%, then seem to last well until down to 50-50% then suddenly drop, with the last 30% going in no time at all.0 -
Of course it's not hard to do, but automatic wireless syncing is one of the things I really want to do. It's the only major thing that I do not like on the 800. Without it I shall just keep the 800.dubbs2009 wrote:Dippydog2 wrote:The thing I do not like about the 1000 is the way it forces you via Garmin Connect. I know you can take the data from GC to other places, but it is a pretty buggy and slow bit of software and I do not want it to be my gateway to Trainer Road, Strava, Veloviewer etc.
If only there was a Stravawatch.
I do wonder how long before Strava make hardware... I don't see Garmin ever changing making you upload direct to Connect from wireless. But if you don't want to go to Connect then to auto update to 3rd parties - just plug it in to your computer and do it manually - aint that hard Not a stumbling point for me....
It's a shame the phone is not really a substitute for a proper bike computer. I always carry mine and on the occasional short hop when I do not take the 800 the Strava app does a fine job and just syncs perfectly when I get home. But, I only do that on rides where I do not want cadence and HR data.0 -
apreading wrote:Bar Shaker wrote:My 1000 used 10% of its battery per hour when in full navigation use and 6% per hour in non navigation mode.
Dont assume that this will hold through the whole batter charge - most devices quickly drop from 100% down to something like 98%, then seem to last well until down to 50-50% then suddenly drop, with the last 30% going in no time at all.
The 10% usage was based on getting down to 7% remaining, one day.Boardman Elite SLR 9.2S
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My Garmin 1000 had about 12% battery life after my 1st day of Ride the North (approx. 90 miles at 5.5hrs moving time) and it was left on during water / food stops and lunch which was another 90 mins or so.
Apart from the battery life I think the 1000 is fantastic.0 -
I just run the screen without auto dimming, but fairly dim (though still readable) the gps without glonass. Completed a 120 mile ride and still had enough for a WLAN upload and probably about 1.5 hrs riding.
If i do a local night time training loop... Run it on full light and glonass, very nice....
Either way it's far better than the 810 I had.0 -
I now have a lovely Edge 1000 - I also see about a 10% battery usage per hour - 3 hour ride on Sunday battery down to 68% when finished - Using nav following a route with BT on and Wifi off - mainly looking at stats screen with occasional time spent looking at map - happy with that for what the device does! I wont ever ride for 10 hours to kill the battery so it works for me!0
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Bar Shaker wrote:No ability to import any ANT+ device info.
I am an Apple fanboi with a huge iMac on my desk, two iPads, iPods, a 5S and a 6 on order. I can't see me buying the iWatch except possibly to replace an iPod for running.
Good as they are, none of these bits of kit is a replacement for the 1000.
Nice to hear from an apple fanboi that is not unrealistically obsessed with apple devices being able to do everything.
Seems you probably have a fair bit of disposable income which may be one reason you have the freedom to be realistic.
Apple obsessives often seem to have a twisted view of reality because of three main factors:
A/ They want to spend their money on just an iPhone because they don't feel they have enough to buy both. Often then feeling the need to discredit Garmins so as to make them feel better about that choice.
B/ They are comfortable with apple tech (because they are a lemming), but uncomfortable with tech decisions generally.
C/ They think its cool to get their apple device to do stuff (no matter how much of a pain in the arse it is) and share the possibilities with the other lemmings/try to convert potential Garmin buyers.0 -
I uploaded v2.50 last week. Yesterday I did Autumn Leaves and my Garmin was on for about 7 hours total time with it navigating but set to data screen and auto scrolling to the map when I approached junctions. It used 39% of the battery in that time.
This update says it is only for IOS 8 compatibility but has given a meaningful improvement in battery life.Boardman Elite SLR 9.2S
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Bar Shaker wrote:I uploaded v2.50 last week. Yesterday I did Autumn Leaves and my Garmin was on for about 7 hours total time with it navigating but set to data screen and auto scrolling to the map when I approached junctions. It used 39% of the battery in that time.
This update says it is only for IOS 8 compatibility but has given a meaningful improvement in battery life.
Sounds like the 2.5 update might be worth it then!0 -
I've also seen a couple of 'synch failed' messages on my 1000. A subsequent connection would always work fine (the 1000 does this itself, it's not something I have selected) but no synchs have failed since the update.
This could be the bluetooth connection on my iPhone 6 being better than the one on my 5S.Boardman Elite SLR 9.2S
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dubbs2009 wrote:Carbonator wrote:II would hope they could improve phone connectivity to show first couple of lines of actual texts.
I don't think they ever will - its dangerous reading text messages while riding!
Update: They did, so guess its not
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Bar Shaker wrote:
I doubt they will show text content for H&S reasons. I would agree with that.
See above.
Sorry, but have been meaning to dig this thread up for ages so I could say a general 'told you so'.
I have to admit that its maybe not the safest idea to get full texts on an edge 25 though!0 -
The best advice I can give to any users of Garmin or any other bar mounted computing thingy is keep your eyes on where you are going not looking down at the bloody screen. Twice on Sunday I was forced to bellow at cyclists coming the other way straight for me with their eyes fixed on their screens with no notion of what was coming towards them.
I am convinced the only way these people will learn is when they have an off.0 -
I have never really noticed that tbh, but can well imagine it happening.
Its like anything else that can distract you though, you just have to be sensible.
I have found texts on screen to be very useful. I think its great that I can quickly read the first bit without having to stop and get phone out.
Have only seen on Edge 25 though which is quite small.
I am guessing Edge 1000 can display texts but have never seen any on that.
I think (as I said months ago and as happens on Edge 25) its best just to have first few lines only, rather than the whole text if its long.
If its something important you can then stop to get phone out.
Maybe heads up display thing has them on too?0 -
I have an 800 and I wouldn't buy one again whatever the price. They are full of bugs and after a few years mine now has many problems with the USB port. USB was not made to be used outside and it shows. I would wait until Garmin make one that is completely sealed or find one by another manufacturer.0
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get a 520 and navigate properly is my new ruling. the 520 lasts longer and is just as good. it doesn't do mapping that well, but as a training tool its brilliant. sold my 1000.0
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Can i ask 1000 users - is the random ride generator thing good or a bit of a fad??
ie will i find myself riding though a busy town center with loads of traffic lights or will it send me round the town on quiet country roads if you know what i mean0 -
If its anything like the Mio Cyclo 305 then it will probably end up sending you down tracks like thisdeejaysee wrote:Can i ask 1000 users - is the random ride generator thing good or a bit of a fad??
ie will i find myself riding though a busy town center with loads of traffic lights or will it send me round the town on quiet country roads if you know what i mean
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stevie63 wrote:
If its anything like the Mio Cyclo 305 then it will probably end up sending you down tracks like thisdeejaysee wrote:Can i ask 1000 users - is the random ride generator thing good or a bit of a fad??
ie will i find myself riding though a busy town center with loads of traffic lights or will it send me round the town on quiet country roads if you know what i mean
My Garmin Edge Touring Plus does this on occasion if I use it's route generator option. I've kept the maps updated but it still keeps doing it. Checked on Open Streetmap, and the tracks are correctly labelled as not suitable for cycling, so it's a Garmin problem. It seems predisposed to avoiding major roads and has a liking for NCN routes, but sometimes takes things too far. 4 miles of CX riding on a CR1-SL was quite a test of how well I'd put it together!
You have to examine the suggested route very carefully, preferably on a pc or with the help of a map, which kind of defeats the point of the thing.
If you download a known good route from the pc or save a previous ride as a course, it will give excellent turn by turn navigation and follow it faithfully.0 -
I find that when I map a route on Ride with Gps it's just as bad. I have to check every junction on streetview to make sure but even then the odd one slips through. Last Monday it sent me down a bridle path that was tarmac and then after half a mile for no apparent reason the tarmac stopped and the path was a muddy track. Thankfully it was only half a mile so it was quicker to carry on than turn around and take a different route. It is annoying though.0
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Sorry - I don't mean to hijack the thread, but I'm finding my 1000 really poor at turn by turn navigation.
It frequently seems to miss directing me at all at junctions (that not offering a prompt at all rather than sending me the wrong way) , and other times will direct me straight on while on a random straight piece if road with no turnings in sight.
Directions also seem to come up quite late fairly often.
I have been out with friends with other devices - the 800 and the Mio, and the turn by turn on their devices seem to be far superior.
I have firmware version 8.30 and the maps software that came with the device.
Am I missing something?Bianchi C2C - Ritte Bosberg - Cervelo R3
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sounds unusual, the 1000 I had was very good at turn by turn. As in prompt and very good at re routing etc.... sometimes you can re-install an updated map etc... make sure they are the latest versions.0
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I didn't think it did mapping at all. My longest ride was 13 hours, from Chelmsford to Calais, including the ferry crossing. It lasted for all of that. How long are your rides?philbar72 wrote:the 520 lasts longer and is just as good. it doesn't do mapping that well, but as a training tool its brilliant. sold my 1000.
There have been several map updates for the 1000. I have one to load right now, but it is asking for a couple of hours to do it... so I haven't done it yet. make sure your OS is up to date before trying to load new maps.
In the first software versions, the synching with my iPhone 6 could be occasionally flaky. This year and several updates later, it hasn't missed a beat. Make sure you have re-routing turned off, if following a Course. That may help.
It's still the best on the market, by some margin.Boardman Elite SLR 9.2S
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im toying with the idea of the garmin edge touring. TBH i think i would have purchased one by now if the turn by turn thing didn't have such a bad reputation.
I have a very old edge 205 - downloading routes was great - you only only get a breadcrumb trail, but it was fine once you got the hang of it. It was good as a mile logger as well.0
