Five Ten..

Angus Young

As if Five Ten's styling wasn't bad enough as it is, now they're making gentlemen's dress shoes...

http://www.pinkbike.com/news/first-look ... -2015.html

pesky_jones

Meh, getting 510s was the best thing ive done to improve my riding, by far.

lostboysaint

Pesky Jones wrote:

Meh, getting 510s was the best thing ive done to improve my riding, by far.

What the censored must have you been riding in before if a pair of shoes is the "best thing you've done to improve your riding", flip-flops?

pesky_jones

Just standard trainers. I couldnt believe the difference, it was like I should imagine being clipped in is like. At places like aston hill, where it is rooty as fark, on a hardtail, they made the world of difference, I would like to have seen my times before and after tbh.

lostboysaint

Pesky Jones wrote:

Just standard trainers. I couldnt believe the difference, it was like I should imagine being clipped in is like. At places like aston hill, where it is rooty as fark, on a hardtail, they made the world of difference, I would like to have seen my times before and after tbh.

So actually any decent flat soled, soft "skate" shoe would have been an improvement - Vans waffle soles, Teva Links any of the Sole Technologies products (Etnies, Emerica Es), etc.etc. Not the magical properties of that particular brand and their incredible powers to improve your riding*.

*yes, I am more than aware of the importance of contact points with the bike.

pesky_jones

They were flat soled skate shoes. Nikes. I take it you have a pair of 510s then

pesky_jones

Maybe it was a placebo, I dont really care

lostboysaint

Pesky Jones wrote:

They were flat soled skate shoes. Nikes. I take it you have a pair of 510s then

I ride both flats and clipless (Crank Brothers Mallets). I have had 5Tens and found them no better or worse than most others. So I run Shimano AM45 and 41s.

rockmonkeysc

After changing from 5.10 freeriders to Shimano AM45's I wouldn't go back to 5.10 unless I move somewhere drier than death valley.

paul.skibum

I like my 5:10's - decently grippy, decently stiff, decently protective (solid toe box, high enough around the ankle) - I would like them a little easier to dry when they get wet but they seem well put together.

Better for me than just a pair of DC's which I found to soft soled and offering no protection from things on the trail side hitting my toes.

I don't mind the look of the Kestrel but dont really get the point of 5:10 clipless shoes - either you want a grippy sole or you want a clipless shoe. I dont mind the Freerider Contact either - looks good.

I recently bought a pair of Sombrio shoes which have an amazingly grippy sole on flats - the shoe itself isnt quite as tough/stiff as the 5:10's I have but the grip is better.

lawman

I've loved every set of Five ten's I've owned, my freeriders were awesome. Sure they were typical five ten sponges but the grip they offered was insane. I've moved on from flats and using a second pair of shimano DX shoes which are also pretty damn good, just a tad heavy. For what I paid for them (and how cheaply the newer AM45's can be had) they're damn hard to beat though. I'd be interested to see how the Impact clipless shoes perform, along with Mavic's crossmax shoes they're probably the only ones I'd consider over AM45's if I were to buy new.

Ferrals

Fwiw my free rider elements don't soak up water (unless I fall off in a stream :oops: ) to the extent that I wear them as normal shoes in torrential rain to keep my feet dry.

lostboysaint

lawman wrote:

I've loved every set of Five ten's I've owned, my freeriders were awesome. Sure they were typical five ten sponges but the grip they offered was insane. I've moved on from flats and using a second pair of shimano DX shoes which are also pretty damn good, just a tad heavy. For what I paid for them (and how cheaply the newer AM45's can be had) they're damn hard to beat though. I'd be interested to see how the Impact clipless shoes perform, along with Mavic's crossmax shoes they're probably the only ones I'd consider over AM45's if I were to buy new.

It's the price of the Impact that just makes me laugh. £72 (ish - depending on deals) for the flat pedal version and over £100 for the clipless version. AM45s are around £54!!

lawman

lostboysaint wrote:

lawman wrote:

I've loved every set of Five ten's I've owned, my freeriders were awesome. Sure they were typical five ten sponges but the grip they offered was insane. I've moved on from flats and using a second pair of shimano DX shoes which are also pretty damn good, just a tad heavy. For what I paid for them (and how cheaply the newer AM45's can be had) they're damn hard to beat though. I'd be interested to see how the Impact clipless shoes perform, along with Mavic's crossmax shoes they're probably the only ones I'd consider over AM45's if I were to buy new.

It's the price of the Impact that just makes me laugh. £72 (ish - depending on deals) for the flat pedal version and over £100 for the clipless version. AM45s are around £54!!

Agreed, the price is very high compared to AM45's but they are slightly weighty and can get a bit warm on longer rides. The impacts are a bit lighter I think. Tbh once my MP66's die I'll probably get a pair of Am45's anyway just because they're so cheap

lostboysaint

Ah the MP66 "DX" shoe. Still a classic. Also manages to not look quite so "football boot" as the AM.

lawman

lostboysaint wrote:

Ah the MP66 "DX" shoe. Still a classic. Also manages to not look quite so "football boot" as the AM.

Yep, far nicer looking than the AM45's imo. I got mine second hand but barely used and 18months later they're still going strong. I'd get 2 years tops out of a pair of Five Tens before the soles started to wear. I did manage to find a brand new pair of MP66's just before I got mine but they were a touch too big gutted wasn't the word, at that point they were rarer than Hens teeth!

felix.london

paul.skibum wrote:

I like my 5:10's - decently grippy, decently stiff, decently protective (solid toe box, high enough around the ankle) - I would like them a little easier to dry when they get wet but they seem well put together.

Better for me than just a pair of DC's which I found to soft soled and offering no protection from things on the trail side hitting my toes.

I don't mind the look of the Kestrel but dont really get the point of 5:10 clipless shoes - either you want a grippy sole or you want a clipless shoe. I dont mind the Freerider Contact either - looks good.

I recently bought a pair of Sombrio shoes which have an amazingly grippy sole on flats - the shoe itself isnt quite as tough/stiff as the 5:10's I have but the grip is better.

Not all Five Tens or DC's are the same though. The DC 'Cup Sole' has more grip than the Five Ten Stealth sole if you ask me (on and off the bike) and my Five Ten Line Kings had no more or less to protection than my DC Nyjah have. The Five Tens lasted pretty well. Have yet to see how long these DC's will last but they certainly look as well made (and I got them for only £30)

Drying issues are not important in the southern French Alps

RNVB-85

I use some black Puma Evospeed Sala 1.2 shoes as I recently got back into mountain biking and didn't bother buying a pair of proper biking shoes.They are almsot completely flat on the sole but extremely grippy. They keep me on my feet when I'm playing football and they do the job when I'm biking. Lightweight too.

Northwind

The Freeriders are good shoes imo. Weather protection's poor but then they're not really trying to do that. Could maybe do with a bit more toe protection, I broke my big toe last year in a foot/alp interface incident which wasn't ideal. Well made unlike my old Impacts which were like £20 Tesco trainers. Cardboard ffs! In an outdoors shoe! censored off! Mine lasted one winter then dissolved.

Sombrio made great flat pedal shoes but they're all discontinued So I just ordered a set of the new Impacts, which look pretty darn good but you never know, they might have horribly screwed it up.

paul.skibum

Still got Sombrio shoes on sale in BC - I bought some a few weeks back and they have some though not all on their website.

ilovedirt

lostboysaint wrote:

Pesky Jones wrote:

Just standard trainers. I couldnt believe the difference, it was like I should imagine being clipped in is like. At places like aston hill, where it is rooty as fark, on a hardtail, they made the world of difference, I would like to have seen my times before and after tbh.

So actually any decent flat soled, soft "skate" shoe would have been an improvement - Vans waffle soles, Teva Links any of the Sole Technologies products (Etnies, Emerica Es), etc.etc. Not the magical properties of that particular brand and their incredible powers to improve your riding*.

*yes, I am more than aware of the importance of contact points with the bike.

I used some old vans before getting five tens and there's no comparison. The five tens have infinitely more grip. I wouldn't ride flat pedals without them.



That said, I just wouldn't ride flat pedals...

Northwind

paul.skibum wrote:

Still got Sombrio shoes on sale in BC - I bought some a few weeks back and they have some though not all on their website.

Ah good, might need to check out some canadian websites, love their x-shazam... Best (only!) winter flat pedal shoe.

paul.skibum

I fancy the Loam high top for riding round here - can only seem to find the low top in my size locally though. Might still get them as they would serve as a decent slob about town trainer too and my DC's are fooked after a couple of good soakings, a mud bath and generally having my stinking feet in them!

Northwind

Yeah, I think that's basically the same shoe, except the Shazam got a lace flap as well. They did a couple of variations on the theme... Not the stickiest sole but definitely hit the "more than sticky enough" marker.

Lewis A

They aren't as weather tight as Am41s, but there so comfy!