Purely anecdotal weightloss anti sugar thread ;-)

jgsi

As above but using MyFitnessPal to assess how much open and hidden sugars are in my diet and attempting to stay below 30 gms per day.. for last 7 days..
could well be mythology and all that but have shifted 3 stubborn pounds that have refused to shift the previous 9 months.. couldnt believe the scales reading 170 lbs.. but they did.
Not saying it is the be all and end all..
Trying a 'non sugar' regime was not exactly easy either as food manufacturers seem addicted to it as much as their consumers.

poynedexter

well done. so @30 grms a day, what did you eat? sugar is everywhere!!!

sloppyschleckonds

sugar is evil

jgsi

yes.. If I was to throw a challenge down this would be it... on reflection I think I ate a lot of sugar free cardboard!

kingstonian

Do you have to keep to the non-sugar approach to keep that weight off?

jgsi

probably.... but not actually that bothered.. but it was an interesting experiment.
My personal GDA from Myfitnesspal is 90.. and that in normal circumstances is still challenging.
I have been probably more astonished by reading food labels.

mangetout_rodney

Did you just go by scale weight, or did you use a body fat calliper?
Dropping 3 lbs of fat in 7 days would be extremely tricky- 3lbs is 10500 calories.
If you were eating 10k calories of sugar I'd be surprised.

If you are having a low sugar/low carb week then what will have happened is you would have accessed the glycogen that is in your liver and muscles- for every gram of glycogen that you utilise you dump 4g of water.
It is totally possible to drop that amount of weighting a week, or indeed a day.

Scale weight is fairly useless for determining fat loss except in general terms- you will fluctuate by quite a margin- anywhere from 2-5lbs either way (or maybe more if you have a huge dietary change).

My GDA for sugar is around 94g- I generally have no more than 30-50g and fairly low carb.
I could gain 2-3lbs overnight simply by having a bottle of coke and a pack of salty crisps- even though the calories in those would be under 400 it would trigger a water re-uptake.

Zerotails99

when I was watching tdf, I saw some skinny cyclists taking out lard from their jersey pockets. All that sugar was making them fat thats why they have lard instead.

dw300

Sevendeadly wrote:

Did you just go by scale weight, or did you use a body fat calliper?
Dropping 3 lbs of fat in 7 days would be extremely tricky- 3lbs is 10500 calories.
If you were eating 10k calories of sugar I'd be surprised.

If you are having a low sugar/low carb week then what will have happened is you would have accessed the glycogen that is in your liver and muscles- for every gram of glycogen that you utilise you dump 4g of water.
It is totally possible to drop that amount of weighting a week, or indeed a day.

Scale weight is fairly useless for determining fat loss except in general terms- you will fluctuate by quite a margin- anywhere from 2-5lbs either way (or maybe more if you have a huge dietary change).

My GDA for sugar is around 94g- I generally have no more than 30-50g and fairly low carb.
I could gain 2-3lbs overnight simply by having a bottle of coke and a pack of salty crisps- even though the calories in those would be under 400 it would trigger a water re-uptake.

If JGSI was eating extremely clean, ie. sugar free cardboard, chances are he drastically reduced his sodium intake as well, which would in turn reduce his 'water weight'.

DeVlaeminck

Sevendeadly wrote:

Did you just go by scale weight, or did you use a body fat calliper?

Give the OP some credit - surely we all use a body fat calliper rather than a simple set of bathroom scales don't we ?

mangetout_rodney

DeVlaeminck wrote:

Sevendeadly wrote:

Did you just go by scale weight, or did you use a body fat calliper?

Give the OP some credit - surely we all use a body fat calliper rather than a simple set of bathroom scales don't we ?

Well, he did say 'couldnt believe the scales reading 170 lbs'.

jgsi

This is all anecdotal y'all ;-)
However, what is not anecdotal is my PB for me regular 2 up 10 during last week.. 23:56 on a pig of Club 10 circuit.on road bikes.. no tri bars :-)
Trying to eat clean today .. watchword is 'savoury'... maybe the lard is doing the trick because honestly, I have not gone consciously this 'low fat at all costs' route .. far from it.

meanredspider

I certainly suspect the glycogen part is playing a role here (FWIW, I'd understood 3G water for 1g of glycogen but, whichever, the principle is the same) - it's one of the reasons crash dieting seems to have quick but very temporary effects.

I try to take on my carbs at breakfast in order to keep my brain "fed" during the working day.

mangetout_rodney

meanredspider wrote:

(FWIW, I'd understood 3G water for 1g of glycogen but, whichever, the principle is the same)

I've heard both- 3g or 4g- it is difficult know which precisely but , as you say, the principle is the same.

jgsi

best news today..
Tesco Finest 85% Dark Chocolate just 13gms of sugar for every 100gms .. nice :-)

poynedexter

but WHY is sugar bad stuff?

its because it raises blood insulin levels, and this provides the perfect chemical conditions for body fat to become stored on our bellies. without the insulin, fat storage is a lot less.

but... when we exercise, the insulin response is less, as we use that sugar for energy. so on the bike, sugary stuff is handy.

dietary fat does not translate into stored fat. a sugary fat diet does though!

jgsi

quite so.. just I dont reckon we need so much of it..that Kraft, Nestle, et all seem to think we do... (no profit motive at all is there in having an obese clientele fixated on your foods for decades)