TDF Stage 18: Pau - Hautacam *spoiler*

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  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    If Péraud stays on his bike he's guaranteed a podium. Great story.
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  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    Above The Cows wrote:
    Divine Wind - I am taking a punt at Cheng Ji
    IIRC Divine Wind is Arashiro (Japanese rather than Chinese). I believe we have Macaloon to thank for that one?
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,434
    frenchfighter wrote:
    If Nibali wins he joins the triple crown elite. And it is very elite - there exist only 5..


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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Had a flipping visitor 50kms from the finish.
    Only now able to catch up.

    Lucky there's nobody in the race with any ability at all, or else that would have looked really suspicious; Lance like even.

    As for the stupid cow with the phone..............
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  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    adr82 wrote:
    Above The Cows wrote:
    Divine Wind - I am taking a punt at Cheng Ji
    IIRC Divine Wind is Arashiro (Japanese rather than Chinese). I believe we have Macaloon to thank for that one?

    It was a reference to a spectacularly sacrificial turn in a breakaway. I tried to disown it on reflection due to the unpleasant connotations. Best binned.
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  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Lucky there's nobody in the race with any ability at all, or else that would have looked really suspicious; Lance like even.

    Come off it. He put 1:10 into Pinot and 1:15 into Péraud. What would Quintana have made of that?
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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    As for the stupid cow with the phone..............

    That is an insult against cows. :evil:
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Macaloon wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Lucky there's nobody in the race with any ability at all, or else that would have looked really suspicious; Lance like even.

    Come off it. He put 1:10 into Pinot and 1:15 into Péraud. What would Quintana have made of that?

    Dunno. Where's he posting?

    How much time do you think Froome could have taken out of Nibali, today?
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Above The Cows wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    As for the stupid cow with the phone..............

    That is an insult against cows. :evil:

    Thanks to Rich, the insult against cows in action.
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  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,182
    ^Well she got her 15 seconds of fame. Moto gave her a push too.

    I too hope the phone broke, but I don't wish physical harm on anyone (except maybe WC in the Giro).
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    How much time do you think Froome could have taken out of Nibali, today?

    The 2013 Froome dropped twice in the 3rd week by Quintana and J-Rod for a total of 1:30? Froome hasn't looked as strong this year. Nibali now looks like an improved version of the 2013 Giro winner. And why shouldn't he? I think Froome would have taken back some time in the Alps but would be struggling to attack by now.

    The gap to the rest may well have been greater if Nibali had a challenger.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    How much time do you think Froome could have taken out of Nibali, today?
    At 37.30 for Hautacam - a handful of seconds a best. But if Contador or Froome were to have beaten Nibali it would have been by a constant wearing away process. NIbali has been able to pick and choose his efforts. Had he had to have dealt with Contador or Froome or both for the last ten days he wouldn't have ridden 37.30 today.
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    looking at the stats the big mig who blew up and got dropped in 96 rode up there faster than nibs...lol
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    barring ill fortune...Nibali's tour is one the classist rides i've even seen in a Gt. he made his efforts just when it mattered on different terrain. a complete rider...... maybe contador would have clawed it back... maybe...

    but it would have been close. Two and a half mins is a lot.... a froome who hadn't crashed in the dauphin [then the tour] may have thumped a minute into him in the TT, but Froome lost the tour at the dauphin in hindsight. And contador seems to have panicked under the stress of it all after stage 5.

    Nibs won it fair and square and its about time someone won who demonstrated something more than the ability to go uphill. Thou to be fair contador has his moments, his last vuelta victory was a ballsy effort.
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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    mididoctors wrote:
    but Froome lost the tour at the dauphin in hindsight. And contador seems to have panicked under the stress of it all after stage 5.

    How so ?
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    mididoctors wrote:
    barring ill fortune...Nibali's tour is one the classist rides i've even seen in a Gt. he made his efforts just when it mattered on different terrain. a complete rider...... maybe contador would have clawed it back... maybe...

    but it would have been close. Two and a half mins is a lot.... a froome who hadn't crashed in the dauphin [then the tour] may have thumped a minute into him in the TT, but Froome lost the tour at the dauphin in hindsight. And contador seems to have panicked under the stress of it all after stage 5.

    Nibs won it fair and square and its about time someone won who demonstrated something more than the ability to go uphill. Thou to be fair contador has his moments, his last vuelta victory was a ballsy effort.

    In fairness to nibs he did smash the Roubaix stage too.
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  • FJS
    FJS Posts: 4,820
    mididoctors wrote:
    barring ill fortune...Nibali's tour is one the classist rides i've even seen in a Gt. he made his efforts just when it mattered on different terrain. a complete rider...... maybe contador would have clawed it back... maybe...

    Nibs won it fair and square and its about time someone won who demonstrated something more than the ability to go uphill. Thou to be fair contador has his moments, his last vuelta victory was a ballsy effort.
    fully agree. Hope to keep seeing Nibs in one dayers. Still, winners based on ability to go uphill trump those mostly able to TT best, right?
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,599
    mididoctors wrote:
    Nibs won it fair and square and its about time someone won who demonstrated something more than the ability to go uphill. Thou to be fair contador has his moments, his last vuelta victory was a ballsy effort.

    The previous two winners crushed everyone in the TT as well and Evans was strong all round.
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  • RideOnTime
    RideOnTime Posts: 4,712
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Above The Cows wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    As for the stupid cow with the phone..............

    That is an insult against cows. :evil:

    Thanks to Rich, the insult against cows in action.
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    I think what I'll do is stand around for 6 hours and then when I think the lead of the race is about to pass me I'll make a phone call and look in the opposite direction...
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Great photos:
    http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/07/tour- ... in-photos/
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  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    RideOnTime wrote:
    I think what I'll do is stand around for 6 hours and then when I think the lead of the race is about to pass me I'll try to get on TV...

    Mission accomplished. They never seen a race before :roll:
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    FJS wrote:
    mididoctors wrote:
    barring ill fortune...Nibali's tour is one the classist rides i've even seen in a Gt. he made his efforts just when it mattered on different terrain. a complete rider...... maybe contador would have clawed it back... maybe...

    Nibs won it fair and square and its about time someone won who demonstrated something more than the ability to go uphill. Thou to be fair contador has his moments, his last vuelta victory was a ballsy effort.
    fully agree. Hope to keep seeing Nibs in one dayers. Still, winners based on ability to go uphill trump those mostly able to TT best, right?

    I guess

    but i can appreciate a defensive ride based on a tt win and some are classier than others...see evans tour. that defensive chase of AS across the alps up the galibier was class. he never looked over his shoulder for help. he just knew it was mano to mano and got on with it.

    valverde would not have a crack at the podium without his team evans rode solo for km after km in that chase across two mountains basically. thats not to say valvi pitis ride isn't canny. he is maximising his chances with a smart ride.

    this tour has highlighted the tactics way more than recent additions because the tactics used to get yourself into the top ten are now on show for the podium. i think its a good thing.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
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  • Crozza
    Crozza Posts: 991
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Great photos:
    http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/07/tour- ... in-photos/

    fantastic

    right up until the close-up of Ten Dam's mush at the end - no need for that
  • dsoutar
    dsoutar Posts: 1,746
    Crozza wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Great photos:
    http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/07/tour- ... in-photos/

    fantastic

    right up until the close-up of Ten Dam's mush at the end - no need for that

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  • Art Vandelay
    Art Vandelay Posts: 1,982
    Gendarmes apprehend troll:
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  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    Before the Alps started, Pinot and Péraud were 3:30 down on Nibali. Over two mountain ranges, they've lost an additional 3:30 or so. Valverde and Bardet lost 4:30+. Not bad.

    Quintana helped himself to a (chaos-assisted) 4:11 win over Uran on Val Martello, and 1:30 more in the MTT.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Nibali has a clause in his contract that if he wins the Tour he gets a 1million euro bonus :D
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  • keef_zip
    keef_zip Posts: 295
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Nibali has a clause in his contract that if he wins the Tour he gets a 1million euro bonus :D

    If ever there was an incentive to...
  • Coriander
    Coriander Posts: 1,326
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Nibali has a clause in his contract that if he wins the Tour he gets a 1million euro bonus :D

    When Froome and then Contador went out, he must have been torn. One half thinking, 'damn, people will say I only won it because...' and the other half thinking, 'Yessss, now, where did I leave the Ferrari catalogue?'

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