TDF Stage 18: Pau - Hautacam *spoiler*

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  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    Much more entertaining podium placings than having to watch Froome and Nibs within a minute of each other with Contador lagging 4 minutes behind.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    Ross Tucker ‏@Scienceofsport · 5m
    My preliminary time for #Nibali on #Hautacam = 37:30. 27th on all-time list http://www.chronoswatts.com/en/watts/22/ Estimate 6.09W/kg (@ammattipyoraily)
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Well Ten Dam is 8th. Pretty bloody impressive. Likely is not paid that much cash.

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  • dsoutar
    dsoutar Posts: 1,746
    Peraud looks about 60 sitting there
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Ross Tucker ‏@Scienceofsport · 5m
    My preliminary time for #Nibali on #Hautacam = 37:30. 27th on all-time list http://www.chronoswatts.com/en/watts/22/ Estimate 6.09W/kg (@ammattipyoraily)

    As fast as Piepoli and Cobo who were CERA'd up to the max and he did the last 9km solo. But then the others were only 1min slower which isn't super crazy.
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  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    apropos nothing at all, the gap between Nibali and Pinot at Vuelta 2013 was 7 mins 3 secs.

    Just incase anyone suggests the gap between the first two riders is unusually large.
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  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
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  • Crozza
    Crozza Posts: 991
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Gap from 1st to 2nd is same as from 2nd to 10th...

    you said this last year, something about deux vitesses....
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    The_Boy wrote:
    apropos nothing at all, the gap between Nibali and Pinot at Vuelta 2013 was 7 mins 3 secs.

    Just incase anyone suggests the gap between the first two riders is unusually large.

    No TT yet. That said, Pinot has never had as much to ride for in a TT. Interesting to see if the situation brings out something unusually good relative to Péraud and Membrane.
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  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    Macaloon wrote:
    The_Boy wrote:
    apropos nothing at all, the gap between Nibali and Pinot at Vuelta 2013 was 7 mins 3 secs.

    Just incase anyone suggests the gap between the first two riders is unusually large.

    No TT yet. That said, Pinot has never had as much to ride for in a TT. Interesting to see if the situation brings out something unusually good relative to Péraud and Membrane.

    No cobbles stage, either.

    As I said, I wouldn't try and prove anything with those numbers other than to suggest that Nibali taking Pinot for 7+ minutes over three weeks isn't unheard of.
    Team My Man 2018: David gaudu, Pierre Latour, Romain Bardet, Thibaut pinot, Alexandre Geniez, Florian Senechal, Warren Barguil, Benoit Cosnefroy
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    TT head to heads:
    Valv - Pinot 9 - 3
    Valv - Peraud 4 - 6
    Peraud - Pinot 9 - 14
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  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    Re: the TT, Pinot does a decent tester of a hilly course but I think the profile for Saturday is a little deceptive. Longer than anything he's performed well on too.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    mfin wrote:
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    By comparing Nibali's time with hand picked times from the past and selecting supporting variables we can conclusively prove that our preconceptions were about Nibali were right.

    That pretty much covers the debate from both sides.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    @irishpeloton: Vincenzo Nibali will be the 1st Tour winner to win 4 road stages since Eddy Merckx in 1974 (barring accident).
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  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    mfin wrote:
    <!-- Times up climbs judge and jury discussion goes here -->
    RichN95 wrote:
    By comparing Nibali's time with hand picked times from the past and selecting supporting variables we can conclusively prove that our preconceptions were about Nibali were right.

    That pretty much covers the debate from both sides.
    mfin wrote:
    <!-- Times up climbs judge and jury discussion ends here -->
  • dsoutar
    dsoutar Posts: 1,746
    RichN95 wrote:
    mfin wrote:
    <!-- Times up climbs judge and jury discussion goes here -->
    By comparing Nibali's time with hand picked times from the past and selecting supporting variables we can conclusively prove that our preconceptions were about Nibali were right.

    That pretty much covers the debate from both sides.

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  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    Bardet being interviewed putting on a really good sulk face.
  • chrisday
    chrisday Posts: 300
    dsoutar wrote:
    Has anyone ventured into the Asylum yet ?

    Just dipped a toe in the Nibali thread. Spent 30secs not knowing whether to laugh or cry, then left, locking the door behind me...
    There's an awesome Psychology PhD project in there.
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  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    The_Boy wrote:
    No cobbles stage, either.

    As I said, I wouldn't try and prove anything with those numbers other than to suggest that Nibali taking Pinot for 7+ minutes over three weeks isn't unheard of.

    Yep. Cobbles were a worth a good whack.

    It's regrettable that the spasmodically objective Ross Tucker lends his credibility to cretins with stopwatches.

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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    edited July 2014
    The Green Jersey is mathematically over today. (according to ITV4)
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    Fuglsang: 'Today's stage was horrible, horrible, horrible. My team mates were riding like they had stolen their bikes'
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Don't mess with the Sicillians. Bada Bing Bada Boom.

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  • Crozza
    Crozza Posts: 991
    ^ thought the Gendarmes carried guns precisely for those sort of situations
  • the article don
    the article don Posts: 578
    There really needs to be a thread that collates nicknames, what with Coco the Clown, Snowman, Divine Wind, Toblerone, Senor Hairplugs, Peanut etc etc all racing. Can be confuing for the uninitiated.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    the article don wrote:
    There really needs to be a thread that collates nicknames, what with Coco the Clown, Snowman, Divine Wind, Toblerone, Senor Hairplugs, Peanut etc etc all racing. Can be confuing for the uninitiated.
    I've got twelve thousand posts and I'm struggling on half of them.
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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Coco The Clown - Rafal Majka (for this Tour and KOM jersey only)
    Snowman - Mikel Nieve
    Divine Wind - I am taking a punt at Cheng Ji
    Toblerone (Boy) - Titchie Richie, Richtea or as he is otherwise known Richie Porte
    Señor Hairplugs - Alejandro Valverde
    Peanut - Thibaut Pinot

    I apolgise for Snowman, Toblerone Boy and Señor Hairplugs.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Close, but no cigar, it's still not a stuffed boar missing a leg with a crazed man in his underpants.

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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    If Nibali wins he joins the triple crown elite. And it is very elite - there exist only 5. Those that have won the three GTs. Contador has won all three twice over but Nibali is still young.
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  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    RichN95 wrote:
    Don't mess with the Sicillians. Bada Bing Bada Boom.

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    For some strange reason I really do hope that her phone is busted and that she's missing a few teeth.
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    frenchfighter wrote:
    If Nibali wins he joins the triple crown elite. And it is very elite - there exist only 5. Those that have won the three GTs. Contador has won all three twice over but Nibali is still young.

    Contador has only won one Giro.

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