All Mountain vs Enduro

IDave

I hear these terms 'All Mountain' and 'Enduro' bandied around all the time on the forum and in the MTB media, but can someone please give a concise definition of what each means and what the difference is?

Thanks in advance.

Cqc

Same fucking thing basically, enduro just gets used by the media loads to sell stuff. No one is sure which is more hardcore but basically they are both 150-160mm travel bikes.

rockmonkeysc

It's all mountain and #enduro.
#enduro is very fashionable at the moment. If you're not riding #enduro you're nothing.

pesky_jones

I think enduro is just racing all mountain

rockmonkeysc

Pesky Jones wrote:

I think #hashtagenduro is just racing all mountain

Fixed for you.

IDave

So are they types of bike then? A style of riding? Or are they types of terrain?

supersonic

All three! But they cover a lot of ground. But usually means harder terrain with 140-170mm travel biked than can also be pedaled uphill fairly well.

.blitz

IDave wrote:

So are they types of bike then? A style of riding? Or are they types of terrain?

enduro is timed all mountain like DH is timed freeriding and XC is timed trail riding

Make a race out of it and create a whole new genre

rockmonkeysc

.blitz wrote:

IDave wrote:

So are they types of bike then? A style of riding? Or are they types of terrain?

enduro is timed all mountain like DH is timed freeriding and XC is timed trail riding

Make a race out of it and create a whole new genre

DH and freeride are completely different things. Freeride is all about the airtime and tricks. Freeride covers things like dirt jumping, slopestyle and big mountain freeride.
I agree with the trail/xc and all mountain/#enduro comparisons though.

CitizenLee

Enduro used be called Super D before the industry needed something new to market to sell more bikes and parts.

welshkev

words vs different words

bennett_346

Marketing terms. Mean nothing.

rockmonkeysc

Enduro = goggles with xc helmet.

BoredHousewife

used to be called mountain biking when i were a lad

CitizenLee

RockmonkeySC wrote:

Enduro = goggles with xc helmet.

Haha, this ^^

Bro, do you even Enduro?

BoredHousewife wrote:

used to be called mountain biking when i were a lad

Pre or post op? :P

BoredHousewife

CitizenLee wrote:

Pre or post op? :P

neither, just a regretable username lol

CitizenLee

BoredHousewife wrote:

CitizenLee wrote:

Pre or post op? :P

neither, just a regretable username lol

Haha, it's not that bad

ilovedirt

CitizenLee wrote:

Enduro used be called Super D before the industry needed something new to market to sell more bikes and parts.

Super-D was the Americanism for enduro, before they realised it sounded stupid.

paul.skibum

Trail riding? I don't race so I don't do Enduro and I think All Mountain is such a dumb term - you get all mountain skis which I understand, good for on groomers, but capable of skiing in powder and steeps, makes sense but all mountain bike? Capable of riding on trails and.....on other trails. Trail bike then?

CitizenLee

paul.skibum wrote:

Trail riding? I don't race so I don't do Enduro and I think All Mountain is such a dumb term - you get all mountain skis which I understand, good for on groomers, but capable of skiing in powder and steeps, makes sense but all mountain bike? Capable of riding on trails and.....on other trails. Trail bike then?

I think the AM term is meant to allude to more DH ability than a standard trail bike.

Works just as well as the ski analogy if you think about it.

supersonic

First off road bikes were called 'All Terrain Bikes'.

batmo

supersonic wrote:

First off road bikes were called 'All Terrain Bikes'.

In the Francophone world, they still are.

poah

RockmonkeySC wrote:

Enduro = goggles with xc helmet.

lmfao

doodlescymru

Just ride what's in front of you on the bike that's under you!

DCR00

So to summarise, it's riding bikes

Ferrals

I'm not so sure: all the 'all mountain' bikes I've ever seen have been propped up outside trail centre cafes while their owners indulge in coffee and cake. Maybe the term actually relates to the extra travel needed to cater for enhanced sag after eating a food mountain?

neiltb

^^

just the same as enduro bikes, so still just the same thing.

Marketing/advertising, if we didn't have them, my wife wouldn't have a job.

rockmonkeysc

Since enduro became the cool thing everyone suddenly seem to think you need 160mm+ suspension to ride blue/red trails at trail centres.

paul.skibum

RockmonkeySC wrote:

Since enduro became the cool thing everyone suddenly seem to think you need 160mm+ suspension to ride blue/red trails at trail centres.

Been saying it for years - UK trail and xc riding needs a decent hardtail - everything I have ridden in Whistler on my Bronson I would probably get down on my hardtail to be honest. I havent ridden the really hard stuff yet mind!

welshkev

paul.skibum wrote:

RockmonkeySC wrote:

Since enduro became the cool thing everyone suddenly seem to think you need 160mm+ suspension to ride blue/red trails at trail centres.

Been saying it for years - UK trail and xc riding needs a decent hardtail - everything I have ridden in Whistler on my Bronson I would probably get down on my hardtail to be honest. I havent ridden the really hard stuff yet mind!

I agree with this actually - the only reason I sold my hardtail was I have a bad back and I find that a full susser is easier on the pain.

however saying that I do ride a 160mm travel nomad :oops:

poah

paul.skibum wrote:

RockmonkeySC wrote:

Since enduro became the cool thing everyone suddenly seem to think you need 160mm+ suspension to ride blue/red trails at trail centres.

Been saying it for years - UK trail and xc riding needs a decent hardtail - everything I have ridden in Whistler on my Bronson I would probably get down on my hardtail to be honest. I havent ridden the really hard stuff yet mind!

true, but not every one wants to ride a hard tail. given the choice would you prefer a hand or blow job