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Can your legs get stronger without getting bigger?

cmhill79cmhill79 Posts: 135
edited June 2014 in Road general
It's probably a stupid questions and yes I have prepared myself to be abused by the trolls but in all seriousness is it actually possible depending on the training methods? Reason I ask is I see guys with smaller legs who power along and then see these guys with huge thighs but appear to lack power...

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  • NeXXusNeXXus Posts: 854
    Yes
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  • imposter2.0imposter2.0 Posts: 11,729
    edited June 2014
    If you're talking about cycling, then stronger legs do not necessarily make you a better cyclist. This will go to 10 pages, I reckon....
  • junglist_mattyjunglist_matty Posts: 1,727
    It's all about power to weight ratios.
  • Mad_MalxMad_Malx Posts: 4,591
    Most famously Wiggo lost a load of muscle bulk when moving from track to road .

    This is going to run into debate about the meaning of 'stronger'.
  • junglist_mattyjunglist_matty Posts: 1,727
    Mad_Malx wrote:
    Most famously Wiggo lost a load of muscle bulk when moving from track to road

    That's expected as there are no hills to overcome on a track
  • mfinmfin Posts: 6,726
    Slow twitch vs Fast Twitch muscles and the balance between them. Look at a 100m runner vs a 10,000m runner, they both run.
  • AdrianStuartAdrianStuart Posts: 140
    Strength - the extent to which muscles can exert force by contracting against resistance (e.g. holding or restraining an object or person)

    If you are weak and have never done any real strength training, you will see some adaptations pretty quickly. The gains in size you’ll experience will not be linear. They do not continue forever.
  • goonzgoonz Posts: 3,106
    Why wouldnt you want super huge thighs?
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  • rickeverettrickeverett Posts: 988
    Depends on what you call strength. Climbing?, Sprinting?, Long Distance ?

    if you want to go endurance then you usually end up twig thin as you loose mass.
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  • mfinmfin Posts: 6,726
    mfin wrote:
    Slow twitch vs Fast Twitch muscles and the balance between them. Look at a 100m runner vs a 10,000m runner, they both run.
  • DevastazioneDevastazione Posts: 280
    Genetics plays a major role I guess.

    Piled up some sh.itt.y huge legs this winter. It's all hills and mountains here and rode 4/5 times a week each week from september 2013 till may 2014, I yet have to find if that turned out to add some benefits to my performances beside adding unwanted weight,I'll check that in september when I'll start riding again. You really don't want big legs,no good man,no good.
    Ok sure,I've once rested for a week and felt like I had two nuclear plants in my legs,still my greyhound lookalike friends managed to beat the heck out of me on the uphills... :evil: :evil:
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  • kingstoniankingstonian Posts: 2,847
    Mad_Malx wrote:
    Most famously Wiggo lost a load of muscle bulk when moving from track to road .

    This is going to run into debate about the meaning of 'stronger'.


    Well my dad's stronger than your dad
  • aberdeenalaberdeenal Posts: 200
    goonz wrote:
    Why wouldnt you want super huge thighs?

    Erm - it's a nightmare to get jeans / trousers to fit :)
  • gubber12345gubber12345 Posts: 480
    Mad_Malx wrote:
    Most famously Wiggo lost a load of muscle bulk when moving from track to road .

    This is going to run into debate about the meaning of 'stronger'.


    Well my dad's stronger than your dad
    yeah and in the words of Franky Boyle " aye,but my dad will shag your dad,and your dad will like it" :lol::lol::lol:
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  • macleod113macleod113 Posts: 560
    AberdeenAl wrote:
    goonz wrote:
    Why wouldnt you want super huge thighs?

    Erm - it's a nightmare to get jeans / trousers to fit :)

    Too right! bleeding nightmare to get the right fit. correct waist size and the trollies wont go over my thighs :(

    larger waist size to go over my thighs and it feels like I have 3-4 inches of material to hide via a belt and it looks stupid.
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  • DavidJBDavidJB Posts: 2,019
    MacLeod113 wrote:
    AberdeenAl wrote:
    goonz wrote:
    Why wouldnt you want super huge thighs?

    Erm - it's a nightmare to get jeans / trousers to fit :)

    Too right! bleeding nightmare to get the right fit. correct waist size and the trollies wont go over my thighs :(

    larger waist size to go over my thighs and it feels like I have 3-4 inches of material to hide via a belt and it looks stupid.

    I can ONLY buy jeans from GAP as they are loose round the legs...30 inch waist but would need a 34" jeans from a normal place to fit round the legs :(

    Plus nothing wrong with having big legs ... they are awesome...
  • DavidJB wrote:
    I can ONLY buy jeans from GAP as they are loose round the legs...30 inch waist but would need a 34" jeans from a normal place to fit round the legs :(

    Try Gant Jeans.
    For a long time I only wore Gap jeans for the same reason but Gant seem to be better cut plus they last a lot longer.
  • DavidJBDavidJB Posts: 2,019
    DavidJB wrote:
    I can ONLY buy jeans from GAP as they are loose round the legs...30 inch waist but would need a 34" jeans from a normal place to fit round the legs :(

    Try Gant Jeans.
    For a long time I only wore Gap jeans for the same reason but Gant seem to be better cut plus they last a lot longer.

    Ah nice one I'll check it out :)
  • jscljscl Posts: 1,015
    goonz wrote:
    Why wouldnt you want super huge thighs?
    This.

    Lots of track and gym has bulked my legs up with muscle mass. I like them, I'm not gonna lie. I have no issues on the road and then power out a good sprint. It's win win.

    Big legs for the win!
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  • goonzgoonz Posts: 3,106
    DavidJB wrote:
    MacLeod113 wrote:
    AberdeenAl wrote:
    goonz wrote:
    Why wouldnt you want super huge thighs?

    Erm - it's a nightmare to get jeans / trousers to fit :)

    Too right! bleeding nightmare to get the right fit. correct waist size and the trollies wont go over my thighs :(

    larger waist size to go over my thighs and it feels like I have 3-4 inches of material to hide via a belt and it looks stupid.

    I can ONLY buy jeans from GAP as they are loose round the legs...30 inch waist but would need a 34" jeans from a normal place to fit round the legs :(

    Plus nothing wrong with having big legs ... they are awesome...

    Wear shorts. I wouldnt want to hide my guns! :P
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  • JoeblackJoeblack Posts: 829
    Try carrot fit jeans, for those of you who have large thighs, or get a pair that fit and then have the waist band taken in, this is the best way to get your jeans to fit.

    Regards having large legs, it's more about power to weight rather than size, very large legs will add a lot of weight and therefor be a hindrance to general cycling.

    One of the best cyclists iv ridden with was a woman who carried very little size on her legs but she could climb, sprint and spin, she had the complete package
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  • goonzgoonz Posts: 3,106
    greipel-and-forste_2294083b.jpg

    Andre Greipel vs German track Rider Forste.

    Insane and sick.
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  • DavidJBDavidJB Posts: 2,019
    Joeblack wrote:
    Try carrot fit jeans, for those of you who have large thighs, or get a pair that fit and then have the waist band taken in, this is the best way to get your jeans to fit.

    Regards having large legs, it's more about power to weight rather than size, very large legs will add a lot of weight and therefor be a hindrance to general cycling.

    One of the best cyclists iv ridden with was a woman who carried very little size on her legs but she could climb, sprint and spin, she had the complete package

    Not really true. I'm 69kg with 'big thighs' and I climb pretty well, got a decent 'engine' and I'm not a very good sprinter! You can't determine anything just by body type.
  • MatthewfalleMatthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Why is it sick?

    Just two ridiculously talented, fit and we hope, clean athletes at the top of their sport.

    No one looks at over muscled 100m sprinters and calls them sick.

    Now - anyone have a copy of that piccie of Greipal and the podium girl where his thighs are bigger than her waist that was doing the rounds last year?
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
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    He's right you know.
  • goonzgoonz Posts: 3,106
    Im talking more of the guy on the right.

    Greipel's are fine.
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  • MatthewfalleMatthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    But why is it "sick"?
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • goonzgoonz Posts: 3,106
    Ok, legs that huge dont look good to me?
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  • DavidJBDavidJB Posts: 2,019
    But why is it "sick"?

    Calm down dear.
  • keef66keef66 Posts: 13,123
    Forstermann's thighs do make me feel a little queasy. I find all of those extreme bodybuilding types to be a bit freak-show.
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