So, What's The Deal With Prince Harry...

Akirasho

... and his new chopper?

http://www.eonline.com/news/553247/prin ... d-birthday

VTech

I think it shows just how shrewd our Queen actually is. This will offer a huge saving in costs and when it is rented out it will almost certainly wipe its feet financially.
We are incredibly lucky to have such a great royal family who give so much to their country. The monarchy we have in this day and age is superb, as a country we are blessed.

arran77

I can't say that I'm a fan of the Royal Family, I think that's it's an outdated concept that needs to be scrapped.

VTech

arran77 wrote:

I can't say that I'm a fan of the Royal Family, I think that's it's an outdated concept that needs to be scrapped.

How would we replace the billions that they generate ?

imposter2.0

VTech wrote:

arran77 wrote:

I can't say that I'm a fan of the Royal Family, I think that's it's an outdated concept that needs to be scrapped.

How would we replace the billions that they generate ?

The French got rid of theirs - doesn't seem to have affected their tourist trade.

VTech

Imposter wrote:

VTech wrote:

arran77 wrote:

I can't say that I'm a fan of the Royal Family, I think that's it's an outdated concept that needs to be scrapped.

How would we replace the billions that they generate ?

The French got rid of theirs - doesn't seem to have affected their tourist trade.

France doesn't have the same issues we have. Foreigners don't visit the uk for Blackpool beach I'm afraid.

Let's face it, people will argue with me simply because it's me but on this subject, arguing that the royal family cost us or are not great for us is futile and idiotic. They don't need us, remember that.

arran77

VTech wrote:

arran77 wrote:

I can't say that I'm a fan of the Royal Family, I think that's it's an outdated concept that needs to be scrapped.

How would we replace the billions that they generate ?

Where does the billions come from?

An article in the Telegraph today puts the figure at £500 million per year.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/tourism/8587231/UK-Tourism-facts-and-figures.html

VTech

arran77 wrote:

VTech wrote:

arran77 wrote:

I can't say that I'm a fan of the Royal Family, I think that's it's an outdated concept that needs to be scrapped.

How would we replace the billions that they generate ?

Where does the billions come from?

An article in the Telegraph today puts the figure at £500 million per year.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/tourism/8587231/UK-Tourism-facts-and-figures.html

£500,000,000.00 in profits squeals roughly £4,250,000,000.00 in total revenue.

Only idiots and serial unemployed argue for cessation of the monarchy.

nathancom

VTech wrote:

Only idiots and serial unemployed argue for cessation of the monarchy.

like these guys?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican ... _in_the_UK

Advocates of republicanism in the UK[edit]
Yasmin Alibhai-Brown, Independent columnist.[14]
Martin Amis, novelist [3]
Julian Baggini, philosopher and writer[14]
Norman Baker, MP (Liberal Democrat)[15]
Jonathan Bartley, theologian[14]
Steve Bell, cartoonist[14]
Tony Benn, former MP (Labour)[16]
John Biggs, AM (Labour)[14]
Honor Blackman, actress[16]
Danny Boyle, Academy Award winning film director[17]
Jo Brand, comedienne[14][18]
Piers Brendon, writer[14]
Pete Broadbent, Anglican Bishop of Willesden[19]
Heather Brooke, journalist, writer and FOI activist[14]
Russell Brown, MP (Labour)[14]
Julie Burchill, writer and columnist[14]
Ray Burns (Captain Sensible), musician[14]
Beatrix Campbell, journalist and author[14]
Ronnie Campbell, MP (Labour)[20]
Jon Canter, television comedy writer[14]
Louise Christian, human rights lawyer[14]
Nick Cohen, The Observer columnist[21]
John Cole, former BBC political editor[22]
Stan Collymore, former footballer[14]
Jeremy Corbyn, MP (Labour)[23]
David Crausby, MP (Labour)[14]
Roseanna Cunningham, MSP (Scottish National Party)[14]
Ian Davidson, MP (Labour)[24]
Richard Dawkins, evolutionary biologist and writer[25][26]
Edzard Ernst, academic[14]
Bill Etherington, former MP (Labour)[27]
Linda Fabiani, MSP (Scottish National Party)[14]
Simon Fanshawe, writer and broadcaster[14]
Colin Firth, actor[28]
Paul Flynn, MP (Labour)[14]
George Foulkes, peer, former MP and MSP (Labour)[14]
Jonathan Freedland, journalist[14]
Rob Gibson, MSP (Scottish National Party)[14]
Roger Godsiff, MP (Labour)[14]
Christine Grahame, MSP (Scottish National Party)[14]
Alasdair Gray, Scottish author[29]
Paul Greengrass, film director and screenwriter[14]
Roy Greenslade, journalist and academic[14]
Mark 'Barney' Greenway, musician[14]
Philippa Gregory, novelist[14]
John Griffiths, AC/AM (Labour Co-operative)[14]
Mark Haddon, novelist[14]
Johann Hari, former The Independent columnist[30]
Stephen Haseler, professor, author[14]
Roy Hattersley, former MP (Labour), member of the House of Lords[16]
Paul Heaton, singer[31]
Christopher Hitchens, author and columnist
Anthony Holden, writer, broadcaster and critic[14]
Ted Honderich, philosopher[14]
Kelvin Hopkins, MP (Labour)[14]
Mick Hume, journalist,[32]
Julian Huppert, MP (Liberal Democrat)[14]
Brian Iddon, MP (Labour)[14]
Robin Ince, comedian, actor and writer[14]
Glenda Jackson, MP (Labour)[14]
Bethan Jenkins, AC/AM (Plaid Cymru)[14]
Mervyn Jones, writer [33]
Patrick Jones, poet, playwright and filmmaker[14]
Philippe Legrain, economist and writer[14]
Mike Leigh, writer and director of film and theatre[14]
Ken Livingstone, Former Mayor of London and Labour MP
Ken Loach, film and television director[14]
Tim Lott, author[14]
Caroline Lucas, MP and former leader of the Green Party of England and Wales[14]
Kenan Malik, writer, lecturer and broadcaster[14]
Michael Mansfield, QC[16]
Kingsley Martin, Editor of the New Statesman, 1930-1960.[34]
Jim McGovern, MP (Labour)[14]
Ann McKechin, MP (Labour)[14]
Chris McLaughlin, journalist[14]
John Milton, poet[35]
Brian Moore, former rugby union player
Suzanne Moore, journalist[14]
William Morris, writer and artist [36]
Morrissey, musician[37]
Tom Nairn, essayist.[38]
Brendan O'Neill, journalist[14]
Thomas Paine, English-American author and revolutionary[39]
Julia Pascal, playwright and theatre director[14]
Edward Pearce, Former New Statesman contributor[40]
Caryl Phillips, novelist[14]
Stephen Pollard, author and journalist[14]
Stephen Pound, MP (Labour)[14]
Lance Price, writer and journalist[14]
Gwilym Prys-Davies, peer (Labour)[14]
Daniel Radcliffe, actor[41]
Claire Rayner, journalist[42]
Brian Reade, Daily Mirror columnist[43]
Vicky Richardson, journalist[14]
Steven Rose, scientist and writer[14]
Michael Rosen, novelist and poet[14]
Geoffrey Robertson, QC[14]
Alan Rusbridger, editor, The Guardian[44]
Alfred Salter, politician, Labour MP 1925-45.[45]
Arthur Scargill, former trade union leader, leader of the Socialist Labour Party[46]
Anthony Scrivener, QC[14]
Mark Seddon, journalist[14]
Will Self, journalist[47]
Paul Simonon, musician[14]
Dennis Skinner, MP (Labour)[48]
Joan Smith, novelist, journalist and human rights activist[14]
Robert Smith, musician.[49]
Mark Steel, comedian[16]
Peter Tatchell, gay rights campaigner[16]
Dick Taverne, peer (Liberal Democrat)[14]
Adam Tomkins, John Millar Professor of Public Law (Glasgow University)[29]
Sue Townsend, author (wrote the best selling political satire The Queen and I in which Britain becomes a republic)[50]
Polly Toynbee, The Guardian columnist[14]
Jonathan Trigell, author[14]
Nigel Warburton, academic[14]
Graham Watson, MEP (Liberal Democrat)[14]
H. G. Wells, novelist [51]
Francis Wheen, journalist, writer and broadcaster[14]
Peter Whelan, playwright[14]
Sandra White, MSP (Scottish National Party)[14]
Gwyn A. Williams, historian.[38]
Bill Wilson, MSP (Scottish National Party)[14]
Leanne Wood, AC/AM (Leader of Plaid Cymru)[14]
Gary Younge, journalist[14]
Benjamin Zephaniah, poet (publicly refused to accept an OBE in 2003)[52]

arran77

VTech wrote:

arran77 wrote:

VTech wrote:

arran77 wrote:

I can't say that I'm a fan of the Royal Family, I think that's it's an outdated concept that needs to be scrapped.

How would we replace the billions that they generate ?

Where does the billions come from?

An article in the Telegraph today puts the figure at £500 million per year.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/tourism/8587231/UK-Tourism-facts-and-figures.html

£500,000,000.00 in profits squeals roughly £4,250,000,000.00 in total revenue.

Only idiots and serial unemployed argue for cessation of the monarchy.

The article uses the word generate, not profit.

I agree with Imposter, people would still visit the various royal palaces and all that shite even if there was no Royal Family.

nathancom

arran77 wrote:

VTech wrote:

arran77 wrote:

VTech wrote:

arran77 wrote:

I can't say that I'm a fan of the Royal Family, I think that's it's an outdated concept that needs to be scrapped.

How would we replace the billions that they generate ?

Where does the billions come from?

An article in the Telegraph today puts the figure at £500 million per year.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/tourism/8587231/UK-Tourism-facts-and-figures.html

£500,000,000.00 in profits squeals roughly £4,250,000,000.00 in total revenue.

Only idiots and serial unemployed argue for cessation of the monarchy.

The article uses the word generate, not profit.

I agree with Imposter, people would still visit the various royal palaces and all that shite even if there was no Royal Family.

Well Buckingham Palace is only open 2 months a year and generates 11 million for the Royal Family to spend on themselves. We could make much more if we sent them to a 2 bed semi in Bridlington.

mrfpb

Pension off the family and keep the palaces. It's the palaces and other trappings that bring the tourists in. Mind you, a Royal prince or two are handy for making trade deals with the arab nations, so probably genuine billions to be made there.

arran77

nathancom wrote:

arran77 wrote:

VTech wrote:

arran77 wrote:

VTech wrote:

arran77 wrote:

I can't say that I'm a fan of the Royal Family, I think that's it's an outdated concept that needs to be scrapped.

How would we replace the billions that they generate ?

Where does the billions come from?

An article in the Telegraph today puts the figure at £500 million per year.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/tourism/8587231/UK-Tourism-facts-and-figures.html

£500,000,000.00 in profits squeals roughly £4,250,000,000.00 in total revenue.

Only idiots and serial unemployed argue for cessation of the monarchy.

The article uses the word generate, not profit.

I agree with Imposter, people would still visit the various royal palaces and all that shite even if there was no Royal Family.

Well Buckingham Palace is only open 2 months a year and generates 11 million for the Royal Family to spend on themselves. We could make much more if we sent them to a 2 bed semi in Bridlington.

VTech's trebling the size of his house isn't he because of lax planning laws? Maybe he could put Queenie up

VTech

I didn't expect anything different from the people here.
I started my company on the princes trust, without that help I would not be where I am today, I would not have employed over 600 people at my peak and would not of generated millions in tax for you guys (as well as me) to benefit from.

I live in Stratford Upon Avon and support the royal family, the two biggest tourist attractions we have as a country. I support the royal family who work tirelessly for our country and do so much work that isn't even publicised to generate more for us all.

As I have previously said, by following the pack you can only expect to achieve the same as everyone else.

RDW

Harry? Shurely shome mishtake.

arran77

VTech wrote:

I didn't expect anything different from the people here.
I started my company on the princes trust, without that help I would not be where I am today, I would not have employed over 600 people at my peak and would not of generated millions in tax for you guys (as well as me) to benefit from.

I live in Stratford Upon Avon and support the royal family, the two biggest tourist attractions we have as a country. I support the royal family who work tirelessly for our country and do so much work that isn't even publicised to generate more for us all.

As I have previously said, by following the pack you can only expect to achieve the same as everyone else.

All very interesting but you still don't tell us where your claim that the Royal Family generates billions of pounds comes from.

nathancom

Absolutely love the Queen. Have met her a few times now and is wonderful company.

Majestic 12

I'm all for the Royal Family, a fantastic asset for this crap hole of a country. Without the Queen and Pip' to represent us we would have nobody but politicians only interested in lining their pockets. To be a republic would be a travesty, as it would mean that twats like Blair would have been head of state. And I would remind you all that he was so full of himself and full of 5h1t and his self importance that he wanted his own presidential style jet. What a Berkshire Hunt.

However what I am not in favour of are the fringe Royals. The dukes, duchesses, marquis' etc etc who only have their titles and land due to it being given to them centuries ago as recompense by a reigning monarch. They should be stripped of titles and the property and land returned to the National Trust/English Heritage etc.

FatTed

VTech wrote:

I didn't expect anything different from the people here.
I started my company on the princes trust, without that help I would not be where I am today, I would not have employed over 600 people at my peak and would not of generated millions in tax for you guys (as well as me) to benefit from.

I live in Stratford Upon Avon and support the royal family, the two biggest tourist attractions we have as a country. I support the royal family who work tirelessly for our country and do so much work that isn't even publicised to generate more for us all.

As I have previously said, by following the pack you can only expect to achieve the same as everyone else.

All Down hill from now is it?
I also like the fact that the head of state is not a politician

homers_double

Just realise that Wills and I have the same birthday!

Where's my goddamn chopper...

arran77

homers double wrote:

Where's my goddamn chopper...

The Queen's not your granny is she

Shut up and make do with socks like the rest of us :P

imposter2.0

VTech wrote:

Only idiots and serial unemployed argue for cessation of the monarchy.

Are you seriously suggesting that anyone with republican views is either an idiot and/or unemployed? I'm struggling to see how someone's employment status would affect their views on the monarchy?

paxington

VTech wrote:

I think it shows just how shrewd our Queen actually is. This will offer a huge saving in costs and when it is rented out it will almost certainly wipe its feet financially.
We are incredibly lucky to have such a great royal family who give so much to their country. The monarchy we have in this day and age is superb, as a country we are blessed.

Masterful use of irony . I can tell you practice .............

paxington

homers double wrote:

Just realise that Wills and I have the same birthday!

Where's my goddamn chopper...

Behind the "spare" socks in your Bibs?

Giraffoto

nathancom wrote:

VTech wrote:

Only idiots and serial unemployed argue for cessation of the monarchy.

like these guys?
. . .
Jo Brand, comedienne[14][18]
. . .
Julie Burchill, writer and columnist[14]
Ray Burns (Captain Sensible), musician[14]
. . .
Stan Collymore, former footballer[14]
. . .
Morrissey, musician[37]
. . .
Daniel Radcliffe, actor[41]
Claire Rayner, journalist[42]
. . .
Arthur Scargill, former trade union leader, leader of the Socialist Labour Party[46]

Indeed, the depth and breadth of political expertise and statesmanship in that list is quite breathtaking

VTech

paxington wrote:

VTech wrote:

I think it shows just how shrewd our Queen actually is. This will offer a huge saving in costs and when it is rented out it will almost certainly wipe its feet financially.
We are incredibly lucky to have such a great royal family who give so much to their country. The monarchy we have in this day and age is superb, as a country we are blessed.

Masterful use of irony . I can tell you practice .............

Ill forgive you but you are obviously unaware that the royal family rent out assets and this is no different, the purchase lease lists rental income.

meagain

"They don't need us, remember that."

They need us to be stupid and downtrodden so that they continue to roll in the inherited - sorry taken and held by brute force - land and wealth and privilege that we allow them.

bianchimoon

VTech wrote:

I didn't expect anything different from the people here.
I started my company on the princes trust, without that help I would not be where I am today, I would not have employed over 600 people at my peak and would not of generated millions in tax for you guys (as well as me) to benefit from.

I live in Stratford Upon Avon and support the royal family, the two biggest tourist attractions we have as a country. I support the royal family who work tirelessly for our country and do so much work that isn't even publicised to generate more for us all.

As I have previously said, by following the pack you can only expect to achieve the same as everyone else.

You're not very well are you? as someone who say they champions enterprise, initiative and hard work to then go the polar opposite and fawn over a family that gets all it's money from the 'social' ... groooaaaan

VTech

bianchimoon wrote:

VTech wrote:

I didn't expect anything different from the people here.
I started my company on the princes trust, without that help I would not be where I am today, I would not have employed over 600 people at my peak and would not of generated millions in tax for you guys (as well as me) to benefit from.

I live in Stratford Upon Avon and support the royal family, the two biggest tourist attractions we have as a country. I support the royal family who work tirelessly for our country and do so much work that isn't even publicised to generate more for us all.

As I have previously said, by following the pack you can only expect to achieve the same as everyone else.

You're not very well are you? as someone who say they champions enterprise, initiative and hard work to then go the polar opposite and fawn over a family that gets all it's money from the 'social' ... groooaaaan

Not at all, it the fact that I am incredibly business minded that I realise just what the royalty does for the country.
My earlier comment about idiocy and unemployed was meant as the only people who would consider the royal family a genuine burden are A) idiots, due to the fact you would need to be an idiot to truly think that and unemployed, aimed at the serial unemployed who never aspire to get a job and inherently think the royals to actually cost us money without realising it is actually them that is costing us.

meagain

"Not at all, it the fact that I am incredibly business minded that I realise just what the royalty does for the country.
My earlier comment about idiocy and unemployed was meant as the only people who would consider the royal family a genuine burden are A) idiots, due to the fact you would need to be an idiot to truly think that ...."

Wow, I can only be impressed by the level of logic and argument deployed here - what deep and clear thinking must lie behind the conclusion that "you are an idiot because ...you are an idiot"! Irrefutable logic.

More seriously, have you sought help with your mental disability? Tried primary school?

It is however reasuring to understand the intellectual standing of loyal royals - much the same as the average 6 year old.

bianchimoon

VTech wrote:

bianchimoon wrote:

VTech wrote:

I didn't expect anything different from the people here.
I started my company on the princes trust, without that help I would not be where I am today, I would not have employed over 600 people at my peak and would not of generated millions in tax for you guys (as well as me) to benefit from.

I live in Stratford Upon Avon and support the royal family, the two biggest tourist attractions we have as a country. I support the royal family who work tirelessly for our country and do so much work that isn't even publicised to generate more for us all.

As I have previously said, by following the pack you can only expect to achieve the same as everyone else.

You're not very well are you? as someone who say they champions enterprise, initiative and hard work to then go the polar opposite and fawn over a family that gets all it's money from the 'social' ... groooaaaan

Not at all, it the fact that I am incredibly business minded that I realise just what the royalty does for the country.
My earlier comment about idiocy and unemployed was meant as the only people who would consider the royal family a genuine burden are A) idiots, due to the fact you would need to be an idiot to truly think that and unemployed, aimed at the serial unemployed who never aspire to get a job and inherently think the royals to actually cost us money without realising it is actually them that is costing us.

To be fair, I think the mainstay Royal Family 'fans' are probably IMO the lower socio-economic groups , sun readers etc, it tends to be the thinkers in society these days that question the need or relevance of a royal family and or religion for that matter