Strava is getting annoying!!

BMKN
BMKN Posts: 222
edited June 2014 in Training, fitness and health
I use garmin connect and Strava. I have been doing alot of riding recently and noticed my average has big discrepancies on Strava compared to Garmin. Yest I did a ride and averaged 31.2kph Strava recorded 30.8kph. Today same story .4kph of a difference which is alot. Is there a way of solving it?

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  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    It'll be down to the way they interpret stopping time as it's a moving average. Your Garmin will be taking a reading from your speed sensor (if you have one?) whereas Strava will look at the GPS track and interpret stopping time from that.

    0.4kph is nowt ;)
  • Bar Shaker
    Bar Shaker Posts: 2,313
    It's also how they both interpret your speed when coming to a halt or starting off again. Your Garmin may consider that you have stopped when your speed is less than 2mph, Strava may see that you are still moving, albeit very slowly and record this as very slow progress, so reducing our average.

    If you make a point of stopping really suddenly rather than coasting 50m at sub walking speed and starting with a good push (rather than a slow roll, put your drink back, piss about clipping in, straighten your glasses then start to press the pedals), then the two averages align much more closely. You will also find the both averages increase, sometimes but quite a bit... and it cost you nothing on shiny kit!!
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  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    why is this in the training forum..??
  • BMKN
    BMKN Posts: 222
    I dont have a speed sensor so just use gps. I tend to have alot of coasting as city centre. I find it difficult to track my training as my Garmin says im faster but Strava says im slower so I dont know which to follow.
  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    Tracking 'training' in a city centre with stops is pretty pointless anyway IMO.
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Just choose one (any, either - it doesn't matter as you are only using it as a personal training baseline figure) and stick to that one.

    More variables, more confusion. KISS is the acronym we're looking for in the nicest possible way.
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  • slowbike
    slowbike Posts: 8,498
    BMKN wrote:
    I dont have a speed sensor so just use gps. I tend to have alot of coasting as city centre. I find it difficult to track my training as my Garmin says im faster but Strava says im slower so I dont know which to follow.

    Don't press start until you're really rolling.

    Press stop before you apply the brake to stop.

    Average speed is just that, average speed - you will hopefully see an upward trend over a period of time, but you're not going to see it on individual rides - especially in a city centre environment where you're forever stop/starting.

    Treat your city centre rides as your base miles - then get out to somewhere open to do some high intensity training - that's where you'll get better data to feed your statistics ...
  • okgo
    okgo Posts: 4,368
    Turn off autostop and then you know where you stand.
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  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    If you're stopping and starting it isn't a good indicator of progress anyway, nor is speed in general as there's so many factors such as wind, temperture etc etc. If you really want to know how you are doing sort yourself out a TT course with no stops in it, or get a power meter.
  • BrandonA
    BrandonA Posts: 553
    markhewitt1978 wrote:
    It'll be down to the way they interpret stopping time as it's a moving average. Your Garmin will be taking a reading from your speed sensor (if you have one?) whereas Strava will look at the GPS track and interpret stopping time from that.

    0.4kph is nowt ;)

    Agreed. I did a ride which involved a lot of stopping at traffic lights the other day and it was over 1 mph out.

    Stava is OK for segment times but it is virtually useless at anything else.

    I've noticed a lot of people have started adding their Garmin speed into the ride as a description.
  • Mikey23
    Mikey23 Posts: 5,306
    I think I read somewhere that every time your garmin pauses, you get docked 15s by strava, but not by garmin connect. If you pause a lot, your times will be down by .1 or .2
  • littledove44
    littledove44 Posts: 871
    Can I be the first to say it does not matter?
  • Mikey23
    Mikey23 Posts: 5,306
    Can I suggest counselling? You guys have too much going together to end it all now. And think of the kids...
  • sloppyschleckonds
    sloppyschleckonds Posts: 8,019
    madasahattersley wrote:
    Strava got annoying a long, long time ago.

    Strava, or the people who go on about it :wink: ?
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,794
    Mikey23 wrote:
    I think I read somewhere that every time your garmin pauses, you get docked 15s by strava
    That's rubbish.

    Everyone knows that every time your Garmin pauses, SloppySchleckonds kills a kitten.
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  • Mikey23
    Mikey23 Posts: 5,306
    Oh cool, I must pause more often then... Would he come round here then? Neighbours are getting suspicious of my Kalashnikov ...
  • staffdfr
    staffdfr Posts: 11
    strava always has me faster than garmin, so it is clearly more accurate.
  • Mikey23
    Mikey23 Posts: 5,306
    Garmin connect is better for average speed, strava for climbing

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