Campagnolo goes ugly!

rolf_f
rolf_f Posts: 16,015
edited September 2014 in Commuting chat
Dear god - what were they thinking! This looks worse than a Shimano crankset! OK, making it so that there aren't different compact/standard cranks is obviously a good thing but at what price! You can't love a bike with those cranks on it........

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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 25,738
    My only response must be to regularly maintain my current crank sets to prolong their lives.

    That means no purchasing of replacement parts.

    Which cannot be ideal as a business plan to Campagnolo.
    I do not think they will be too concerned though as there appears to be enough gullible people who simply must have the latest versions.
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  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    Errr, what's wrong with it?

    Still looks better than Shimano (and I have a Shimano crankset).
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  • drlodge
    drlodge Posts: 4,826
    I think it looks quite nice, in a kind of modern yet brutal kind of way. I prefer the SuperRecord (2012?) cranks I already have though.
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  • MichaelW
    MichaelW Posts: 2,164
    better than the Mr Blobby school of design, but not much.
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,052
    Yeah its not a rotor crankset yuck!
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  • walkingbootweather
    walkingbootweather Posts: 2,443
    Can't quite see where the cotter pin fits?
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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    I actually quite like that look........flowing 'aero' styling almost like the metal was still part molten for the first ride and flowed into place as it set, styled by the loads and airflow.
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  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    The Rookie wrote:
    I actually quite like that look........flowing 'aero' styling almost like the metal was still part molten for the first ride and flowed into place as it set, styled by the loads and airflow.

    Is this you?

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  • SNMarine
    SNMarine Posts: 36
    Rolf F wrote:
    Dear god - what were they thinking! This looks worse than a Shimano crankset! OK, making it so that there aren't different compact/standard cranks is obviously a good thing but at what price! You can't love a bike with those cranks on it........

    xCH-2015-guarnitura-OK.jpg

    please un-post the picture, its making me feel queezy
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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    Rolf F wrote:
    The Rookie wrote:
    I actually quite like that look........flowing 'aero' styling almost like the metal was still part molten for the first ride and flowed into place as it set, styled by the loads and airflow.

    Is this you?

    fig10.gif
    Rumbled.......
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  • goonz
    goonz Posts: 3,106
    I actually prefer the look of say Dura Ace over Campag. Much more mechanical and less of the poetry.
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  • lostboysaint
    lostboysaint Posts: 4,250
    goonz wrote:
    I actually prefer the look of say Dura Ace over Campag. Much more mechanical and less of the poetry.

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  • greg66_tri_v2.0
    greg66_tri_v2.0 Posts: 7,172
    Rolf F wrote:
    OK, making it so that there aren't different compact/standard cranks is obviously a good thing

    Solution to a non-existent problem, surely? You can fit anything from 50/34 upwards onto a 110 BCD. The issue is eliminating flex in the larger chainrings when you do.

    It's 130/135 BCDs that limit the size of the smaller chainring that you can use.

    And yes, that is bloody ugly. I never got over Campy abandoning square taper BBs and cranksets though.
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  • pblakeney
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    goonz wrote:
    I actually prefer the look of say Dura Ace over Campag. Much more mechanical and less of the poetry.
    Mechanics make things work.

    Poetry makes emotion. Without emotion life is, sad.
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  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    goonz wrote:
    I actually prefer the look of say Dura Ace over Campag. Much more mechanical and less of the poetry.

    Really?

    Surely this:

    campagnolo-chorus-ultra-torque-chainset.jpg

    is more of a stripped down, function focussed engineers solution than this?

    2013-shimano_11-speed-Dura-Ace-Chainset-standard-fc9000.jpg?width=458&height=358
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 25,738
    xCH-2015-guarnitura-OK.jpg

    2013-shimano_11-speed-Dura-Ace-Chainset-standard-fc9000.jpg?width=458&height=358

    Spot the difference.
    This is what happens when you design by computer.

    Edit:- I initially thought they looked similar but seeing them side by side, the Campag version wins the battle.
    Still not as elegant as the older versions though.
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  • jonny_trousers
    jonny_trousers Posts: 3,588
    I like it. It has a kind of industrial cool to it. I like the look of Dura Ace for the same reason.
  • mick_cornick
    mick_cornick Posts: 175
    Looks ok but to me. I still have my campag cranks from 2001, so I guess you could wait until it's replaced by a new model as they don't seem to wear out or buy NOS at a discount?
  • rjsterry
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  • desweller
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    Jonny_Trousers wrote:
    I like it. It has a kind of marketing cool to it. I like the look of Dura Ace for the same reason.

    Altered for truth. Whatever design cues were used, they're definitely not industrial!
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,459
    The SRAM equivalents look better than Campag or Shimano IMO. Flame suit on :)
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  • jonny_trousers
    jonny_trousers Posts: 3,588
    DesWeller wrote:
    Jonny_Trousers wrote:
    I like it. It has a kind of marketing cool to it. I like the look of Dura Ace for the same reason.

    Altered for truth. Whatever design cues were used, they're definitely not industrial!

    Um, ok then.
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    Campag clearly want to crack the American market with this oversized monstrousity.

    First "Athena" and now this. It's like BMW and their ugly years (circa 2005 - 2012).
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  • pblakeney
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    DonDaddyD wrote:
    Campag clearly want to crack the American market with this oversized monstrousity.

    First "Athena" and now this. It's like BMW and their ugly years (circa 2005 - 2012).
    I am curious as to what could possibly be wrong with Athena?
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  • DonDaddyD
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    Athena really is the wrong name for a groupset. It suggests neither aggression or speed unrepentant and complete. It just screams "bird's bike" to me.

    Still, nothing worse than Claris.
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  • jspash
    jspash Posts: 107
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    Still, nothing worse than Claris.

    Don't forget the Specialized Toupé Expert Gel! Ain't nobody walking into a store an willingly paying money for something with that name on it. What were they thinking?
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  • Ben6899
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    DonDaddyD wrote:
    Athena really is the wrong name for a groupset. It suggests neither aggression or speed unrepentant and complete. It just screams "bird's bike" to me.

    Still, nothing worse than Claris.

    I thought we were trying to banish sexist words and phraseology from these fora?
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  • pblakeney
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    DonDaddyD wrote:
    Athena really is the wrong name for a groupset. It suggests neither aggression or speed unrepentant and complete. It just screams "bird's bike" to me.
    And to think I may have thought it to be something of importance. Never mind.
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  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    PBlakeney wrote:
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    Athena really is the wrong name for a groupset. It suggests neither aggression or speed unrepentant and complete. It just screams "bird's bike" to me.
    And to think I may have thought it to be something of importance. Never mind.

    Of course the name of a mass produced item, which has incurred millions in development costs and sold to millions around the World to not only recoup said development costs but also turn a profit is important.

    You think Specialized landed on 'Venge' or Allez or that while the man's version is called Tarmac the female iteration is called Amira? It wasn't by chance Shimano landed on Dura-Ace or Ultegra (whatever the naming theme was back then).

    People are paid quite well to research, survey and sample test before a name is landed upon.

    Of all the Greek gods, mythological beings, beasts, deities and words, Athena, I just don't get it.

    Perhaps I'm not in their demographic. That groupset keeps getting uglier by the way, yet I can't stop looking at it. Its a little like putting a B battery against the tongue, you'll never get used to it but after a while you kinda enjoy the pain....
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 27,626
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    PBlakeney wrote:
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    Athena really is the wrong name for a groupset. It suggests neither aggression or speed unrepentant and complete. It just screams "bird's bike" to me.
    And to think I may have thought it to be something of importance. Never mind.

    Of course the name of a mass produced item, which has incurred millions in development costs and sold to millions around the World to not only recoup said development costs but also turn a profit is important.

    You think Specialized landed on 'Venge' or Allez or that while the man's version is called Tarmac the female iteration is called Amira? It wasn't by chance Shimano landed on Dura-Ace or Ultegra (whatever the naming theme was back then).

    People are paid quite well to research, survey and sample test before a name is landed upon.

    Of all the Greek gods, mythological beings, beasts, deities and words, Athena, I just don't get it.

    Perhaps I'm not in their demographic. That groupset keeps getting uglier by the way, yet I can't stop looking at it. Its a little like putting a B battery against the tongue, you'll never get used to it but after a while you kinda enjoy the pain....

    As I've said before, you need to read up on your Greek mythology,
    AthenaAndokides.jpg
    but then we've been through all this before. At least twice.
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