I have a confession to make...

TMR
TMR Posts: 3,986
edited May 2014 in Pro race
I watched the Friend's Life Women's Tour (of Britain) last night. And enjoyed it.
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  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    Good. there is a bit of snobbery in cycling especially amongst people who've been in to it a long time and tend to look down on women's cycling. We know it isn't as fast and sponsors aren't interested but it is all relative on the road and can be enjoyed for what it is.

    Pooley stands out as one of the gutsiest climbers and faithful domestiques I have seen in racing, Cooke was as hard as nails and had a great racing brain and Vos is the female equivalent of Merckx. what's not to like or enjoy?
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  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    Yellow Peril wrote:
    Good. there is a bit of snobbery in cycling especially amongst people who've been in to it a long time and tend to look down on women's cycling. We know it isn't as fast and sponsors aren't interested but it is all relative on the road and can be enjoyed for what it is.

    Pooley stands out as one of the gutsiest climbers and faithful domestiques I have seen in racing, Cooke was as hard as nails and had a great racing brain and Vos is the female equivalent of Merckx. what's not to like or enjoy?

    +1
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    Yellow Peril wrote:
    Good. there is a bit of snobbery in cycling especially amongst people who've been in to it a long time and tend to look down on women's cycling. We know it isn't as fast and sponsors aren't interested but it is all relative on the road and can be enjoyed for what it is.

    Pooley stands out as one of the gutsiest climbers and faithful domestiques I have seen in racing, Cooke was as hard as nails and had a great racing brain and Vos is the female equivalent of Merckx. what's not to like or enjoy?

    Vos is very accomplished. My favourite is Hannah Barnes though, I do tend to gravitate towards sprinters; with the exception of my beloved George naturally! :mrgreen:
  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    I'm not sure I get the snobbery surrounding women's cycling (or indeed women's sport in general). I haven't watched any of the Women's Tour, but that's because the highlights are on at a time when I'll be watching telly with the other half who really isn't bothered by bike racing. It's really not all that different to watching second/third tier men's races really, is it? The big names might not be there, but if the racing is any good...

    And the women in the Olympic RR deserved heavyweight status for fitting so much action into such an unpromising parcours.

    I'm sure I have a point somewhere.
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  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    The_Boy wrote:
    The big names might not be there.

    I wouldn't say that, cos there are lots of big names there.
  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    TMR wrote:
    I watched the Women's Tour of Britain last night. And enjoyed it.
    I have watched both stages so far and enjoyed them.
    Coming into Bedford yesterday it was wonderful to see all the school children (so many) in the rain and giving the race a great atmosphere.
    A well organised event and it has come a long way in the last 30 years since I was an official in the Ladies 3 day Kent/Surrey/Sussex races and single day races.
    The organisation then was fine (Police and Stewards etc) but the disappointment came from our local girls telling us about complaints about our stage from Brighton around the Ashdown Forest to finish in Edenbridge being too hard for some leading riders. (Emma would have cleaned up)
    Some of whom were about to ride the Femme Tour De France.
    The following year it was moved to Essex.

    Lizzie Armitstead has to stop sprinting for 700 meters with Marianne Vos close behind as that tactic hasn't worked for two days.
    She would do better by following Vos instead.
    Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 1972
  • shazzz
    shazzz Posts: 1,077
    TMR wrote:

    Vos is very accomplished. My favourite is Hannah Barnes though, I do tend to gravitate towards sprinters; with the exception of my beloved George naturally! :mrgreen:


    I don't think George did anything naturally ...
  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    mfin wrote:
    The_Boy wrote:
    The big names might not be there.

    I wouldn't say that, cos there are lots of big names there.

    I meant in second/third ties men's races, and drawing comparisons to watching a top level women's race where, for the most part, the riders aren't household names. If that makes any sense - I've been awake for an awfully long time now.
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  • kfm2773
    kfm2773 Posts: 19
    How can it be called a Tour of Britain? Tour of a small piece of England possibly.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    kfm2773 wrote:
    How can it be called a Tour of Britain? Tour of a small piece of England possibly.
    It's not called the Tour of Britain.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • kfm2773
    kfm2773 Posts: 19
    TMR wrote:
    I watched the Women's Tour of Britain last night. And enjoyed it.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    kfm2773 wrote:
    TMR wrote:
    I watched the Women's Tour of Britain last night. And enjoyed it.
    It's still not what it's actually called though.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    And even if it was, just about any tour you care to name will only visit a small piece if the country holding the race.
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  • kfm2773
    kfm2773 Posts: 19
    2013 mens Tour of Britain managed to cover more than a small piece of the country I think.
  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    RichN95 wrote:
    kfm2773 wrote:
    How can it be called a Tour of Britain? Tour of a small piece of England possibly.
    It's not called the Tour of Britain.

    Apologies. OP corrected.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    kfm2773 wrote:
    2013 mens Tour of Britain managed to cover more than a small piece of the country I think.
    That's a more established event with a much bigger budget. There's no point planning a race with an ambitious parcours if if you are never going be able to pay for it.
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  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,952
    It's a real shame the UCI have this daft ruling about stage distances. It results in bizarre situations such as women doing the Ride London sportive riding further than in the actual Olympic road race. Emma Pooley has managed to complete things like the Haute Route and the Swissman iron man so it would be great if the UCI got with the times and allowed some slightly tougher parcours to really show off the talent these girls have.
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    I've been enjoying it this week. They got very wet yesterday, a drowned Ratto perhaps.
  • mm1
    mm1 Posts: 1,063
    It was pretty miserable yesterday, fortunately there was a pub on the finish line so only had to pop out for a few minutes to show support. There was a support crit on the finishing circuit, contested mostly by women from London clubs, who all looked frozen at the end of only a short race. A lot of finishers in the tour stage looked hammered, expect some meaningful gaps today and tomorrow as fatigue really starts to take hold.
  • stanislav
    stanislav Posts: 1,151
    RichN95 wrote:
    kfm2773 wrote:
    How can it be called a Tour of Britain? Tour of a small piece of England possibly.
    It's not called the Tour of Britain.
    what a pathetic post. and your point is?.
    oh I get it, trying to be a clever @rse as usual.
    PTP winner 2015.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    stanislav wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    kfm2773 wrote:
    How can it be called a Tour of Britain? Tour of a small piece of England possibly.
    It's not called the Tour of Britain.
    what a pathetic post. and your point is?.
    oh I get it, trying to be a clever @rse as usual.

    Why is making a factual post pathetic? It's just correct and one of the reasons for it may well be because they wanted to avoid people asking 'how can it be called the Tour of Britain when it only covers a small piece of England'.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    stanislav wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    kfm2773 wrote:
    How can it be called a Tour of Britain? Tour of a small piece of England possibly.
    It's not called the Tour of Britain.
    what a pathetic post. and your point is?.
    oh I get it, trying to be a clever @rse as usual.
    My point is that the person was moaning about it not going to much of Britain despite being called the Tour of Britain (which it is not- it purposely wasn't called that as they knew it would be in a narrow area).

    It was in response to a post typical of modern society. This race has only existed for three days and already some ingrates who have probably never lifted a finger to help the sport are bitching because it doesn't cater to their own personal whims.

    Louis CK summed this generation up well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpUNA2nutbk
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    RichN95 wrote:
    Louis CK summed this generation up well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpUNA2nutbk

    I don't even have to click on it to know it's the "everythings amazing" piece, right?

    :D

    As Homer Simpson said, it's funny because its true.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    iainf72 wrote:
    I don't even have to click on it to know it's the "everythings amazing" piece, right?
    Yeah, the Wi-Fi on airplanes bit. "How does the world owe you something that you didn't even know existed 30 seconds ago"
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • stanislav
    stanislav Posts: 1,151
    why the smart @rse one liner,you are one of the prolific posters on here, in this post and a lot of others you just look a sarcastic @rse.
    Explain your point in a way the poster may engage back,after all he has few posts.
    PTP winner 2015.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    stanislav wrote:
    why the smart @rse one liner,you are one of the prolific posters on here, in this post and a lot of others you just look a sarcastic @rse.
    Explain your point in a way the poster may engage back,after all he has few posts.
    It was clear and concise point saying that it wasn't called the Tour of Britain.

    If you said that last year's Giro was won by Ryder Hesjedal and I said 'no, it was Nibali', that isn't sarcastic or arsey - just to the point.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Yellow Peril wrote:
    Good. there is a bit of snobbery in cycling especially amongst people who've been in to it a long time and tend to look down on women's cycling. We know it isn't as fast and sponsors aren't interested but it is all relative on the road and can be enjoyed for what it is.

    Pooley stands out as one of the gutsiest climbers and faithful domestiques I have seen in racing, Cooke was as hard as nails and had a great racing brain and Vos is the female equivalent of Merckx. what's not to like or enjoy?

    :D
    Correlation is not causation.
  • stanislav
    stanislav Posts: 1,151
    RichN95 wrote:
    stanislav wrote:
    why the smart @rse one liner,you are one of the prolific posters on here, in this post and a lot of others you just look a sarcastic @rse.
    Explain your point in a way the poster may engage back,after all he has few posts.
    It was clear and concise point saying that it wasn't called the Tour of Britain.

    If you said that last year's Giro was won by Ryder Hesjedal and I said 'no, it was Nibali', that isn't sarcastic or arsey - just to the point.
    I know that,but you can see he's a newby.try and encourage new input instead of trying to show that this is the preserve of the clever few, or so they think. Ironic Basso fan boy got in on the act.
    PTP winner 2015.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    stanislav wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    stanislav wrote:
    why the smart @rse one liner,you are one of the prolific posters on here, in this post and a lot of others you just look a sarcastic @rse.
    Explain your point in a way the poster may engage back,after all he has few posts.
    It was clear and concise point saying that it wasn't called the Tour of Britain.

    If you said that last year's Giro was won by Ryder Hesjedal and I said 'no, it was Nibali', that isn't sarcastic or arsey - just to the point.
    I know that,but you can see he's a newby.try and encourage new input instead of trying to show that this is the preserve of the clever few, or so they think. Ironic Basso fan boy got in on the act.
    I don't give a toss how many posts people have. But just so I now know your rules, how many posts can someone have before I disagree with them. (I'm guessing it's less than 700 seeing as you think you're lord of the internet).
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • stanislav
    stanislav Posts: 1,151
    RichN95 wrote:
    stanislav wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    stanislav wrote:
    why the smart @rse one liner,you are one of the prolific posters on here, in this post and a lot of others you just look a sarcastic @rse.
    Explain your point in a way the poster may engage back,after all he has few posts.
    It was clear and concise point saying that it wasn't called the Tour of Britain.

    If you said that last year's Giro was won by Ryder Hesjedal and I said 'no, it was Nibali', that isn't sarcastic or arsey - just to the point.
    I know that,but you can see he's a newby.try and encourage new input instead of trying to show that this is the preserve of the clever few, or so they think. Ironic Basso fan boy got in on the act.
    I don't give a toss how many posts people have. But just so I now know your rules, how many posts can someone have before I disagree with them. (I'm guessing it's less than 700 seeing as you think you're lord of the internet).
    Hook line and sinker :lol:
    PTP winner 2015.

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