As above, though I would be more tempted by the Carve as it is a newer bike. The 2013 Carves onwards are lighter than the original Carve bikes and if you want a fast, stiff XC bike they are a good deal at £400 in the right condition.
Tbh I'm not to sure as I'm new to all this but where I live there's lots of woods and cycle tracks everywhere it's more for fitness at the moment until I get in to in big time also does anyone know of decent places to ride in Hertfordshire
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And the marin is the 2011 b17 I like both but don't know much about bikes
Both are in good condition
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I have a 2012 Carve Expert and love it.
Spec for the marin b17
Spec for the carve expert
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The B17 was a more entry level hard hitting HT.
Whereas the Carve is a ground covering xc machine without being too xc racer orientated.
That's without bringing wheel size in to the equation.
What style of riding suits you best?
Mine is a 2013 model and I think it is spot on tbh.