Deep section wheels

casatikid

Anyone got any tips on a decent set of deep section wheels.Either full carbon or alloy rimmed with carbon fairing.
Im looking for a stealth black pair but it seems that they are all so bloody expensive.
I like the look of the Mavic Cosmic Carbones etc but they are a bit to blingy for me.
Ive thought of Planet x but have heard some dodgy stories of carbon rim failure?

sloppyschleckonds

CASATIKID wrote:

Im looking for a stealth black pair but it seems that they are all so bloody expensive.

Use a black permanent marker pen on the rim

ugo.santalucia

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

CASATIKID wrote:

Im looking for a stealth black pair but it seems that they are all so bloody expensive.

Use a black permanent marker pen on the rim

Great if you want to die young!

ugo.santalucia

CASATIKID wrote:

Ive thought of Planet x but have heard some dodgy stories of carbon rim failure?

I haven't, where did you hear these stories?

MountainMonster

Planet X gets raving reviews all the time, can't imagine there is much truth to these stories unless it is one person slating them simply because of a one off occasions.

I would recommend Planet X wheels.

TakeTurns

Go to the classifieds. You're just throwing away money if you buy PX wheels at their RRP.

casatikid

Could be Planet X then!
Will have to give it some thought.

iPete

Are there any 'cheap' ones yet that go wub-wub-wub when its hammer time?

ugo.santalucia

iPete wrote:

Are there any 'cheap' ones yet that go wub-wub-wub when its hammer time?

You need deep ones with big volume of air inside, don't think any 50-60 do that... 90 is the way to go to be loud

iPete

ugo.santalucia wrote:

iPete wrote:

Are there any 'cheap' ones yet that go wub-wub-wub when its hammer time?

You need deep ones with big volume of air inside, don't think any 50-60 do that... 90 is the way to go to be loud

Sounds like £££, any 90mm rims spring to mind that you'd consider building on? I only know of the BLB ones.

DiscoBoy

ugo.santalucia wrote:

iPete wrote:

Are there any 'cheap' ones yet that go wub-wub-wub when its hammer time?

You need deep ones with big volume of air inside, don't think any 50-60 do that... 90 is the way to go to be loud

My 50s make a decent noise when pressing on, I'd say.

ugo.santalucia

iPete wrote:

I only know of the BLB ones.

Same here

stongle

Whulp, whulp, whulp,

Saigon?

It really is only a short matter of time till Sunday morning club runs are accompanied by strap on speakers belting out "Ride of the Valkryies". Get down Richer Sounds, it'll be cheaper than a set of ENVE's.

ugo.santalucia

iPete wrote:

Sounds like £££, any 90mm rims spring to mind that you'd consider building on? I only know of the BLB ones.

Bad news... quote from a guy I fitted with an 80 mm tubular carbon rim

"if it’s to intimidate/impress/cower anyone he’s approaching to overtake, then perfect

if it’s for his own pleasure then he’ll need to fit a microphone to the seat stays and feed the sound into an earpiece (in which case he may as well pre-record the sound and play it back), as he’ll always be ahead of most of the acoustic (unless he rides a TTT and is rarely on the front)"

martinperry

Ive just taken delivery of a set of these
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151256899509? ... 1423.l2649
VERY impressed so far - 200 miles and they havent exploded / melted or dissolved yet
Braking with the supplied pads well modulated and strong, and they make a satisfying, QUIET wizz noize on braking rather than the horse scaring screech from my friends Exalith Mavics
I know everyone will be along soon to tell me why they are rubbish, but at £300 landed and in my hand, I am prepared to learn.
They also look VERY stealth on my Btwin Facet 7 frame - will put some pics up soon

iPete

ugo.santalucia wrote:

iPete wrote:

Sounds like £££, any 90mm rims spring to mind that you'd consider building on? I only know of the BLB ones.

Bad news... quote from a guy I fitted with an 80 mm tubular carbon rim

"if it’s to intimidate/impress/cower anyone he’s approaching to overtake, then perfect

if it’s for his own pleasure then he’ll need to fit a microphone to the seat stays and feed the sound into an earpiece (in which case he may as well pre-record the sound and play it back), as he’ll always be ahead of most of the acoustic (unless he rides a TTT and is rarely on the front)"

Great news for my wallet, although the first point still stands as a valid reason.. :twisted:

ugo.santalucia

martinperry wrote:

Ive just taken delivery of a set of these
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151256899509? ... 1423.l2649
VERY impressed so far - 200 miles and they havent exploded / melted or dissolved yet
Braking with the supplied pads well modulated and strong, and they make a satisfying, QUIET wizz noize on braking rather than the horse scaring screech from my friends Exalith Mavics
I know everyone will be along soon to tell me why they are rubbish, but at £300 landed and in my hand, I am prepared to learn.
They also look VERY stealth on my Btwin Facet 7 frame - will put some pics up soon

From the photos the real wheel is dished incorrectly, is yours dished correctly, or in other words does it sit in the middle of the chain stays?
I have used those hubs once, Novatec 271/272, they are pretty robust no nonsense hubs that should not give you problems.

Iamnot Wiggins

I've got a pair of Campag Bora 35's on my Specialized that replaced a pair of Mavic RSYS-SLR's. Are they better? I don't think so. If anything, I do find them a little slower. Might sell them to be fair and just buy the Mavics again!

They look ace though and isn't that half the battle?

martinperry

From the photos the real wheel is dished incorrectly, is yours dished correctly, or in other words does it sit in the middle of the chain stays?
I have used those hubs once, Novatec 271/272, they are pretty robust no nonsense hubs that should not give you problems.[/quote]

Ugo - thanks for the observation - I value your expert knowlege.
Pretty sure the dishing is correct

Certainly didnt have to reindex or change the RD when I swapped from the old Aksiums
For those interested in the "stealth" look

TakeTurns

I really dislike valve extenders. I don't see how you can bother to faff with them and not just buy 60mm or 80mm tubes. Would also look more sensible. Otherwise, interesting looking bike.

martinperry

Yes - theyre coming off this evening - new tubes just arrived - they leak like buggers and look much too vunerable for comfort!

ugo.santalucia

martinperry wrote:

Ugo - thanks for the observation - I value your expert knowlege.
Pretty sure the dishing is correct

Certainly didnt have to reindex or change the RD when I swapped from the old Aksiums

Indexing has nothing to do with the wheel dish... from here it looks like it's not dished properly, but it could just be the photo. Basically the tyre has to be perfectly in line with the seat tube, within 1 mm

martinperry

Ugo. Thanks - Makes sense re the indexing - thats the hub isnt it!!
Checked - it is dead central - the seat tube is Aero at the back, so the midline is easy to check
Irritatingly just spotted a big cut in the sidewall though!!

ugo.santalucia

There you go, I saved your life...

martinperry

Cheers - when I get my handbuilt climbing wheels, I know where to go!!

ugo.santalucia

martinperry wrote:

Cheers - when I get my handbuilt climbing wheels, I know where to go!!

That reminds me I need some lighter boots. I bought mine 20 years ago when I lived in Italy and used to hike above 2000 mt... I need something more suited to country walking, no chance I will need crampons round here... :roll:

Joeblack

Ugo -

Op - bike looks nice

MountainMonster

That's a sexy back end there!

charlie_potatoes

martinperry wrote:

Certainly didnt have to reindex or change the RD when I swapped from the old Aksiums

Those shoes could do with a good polish Martin

Miles253

For those who've ridden PX wheels, how do they ride? Stiff? Bone shaking?

martinperry

Charlie Potatoes wrote:

martinperry wrote:

Certainly didnt have to reindex or change the RD when I swapped from the old Aksiums

Those shoes could do with a good polish Martin

Theyre not mine!
I just snapped the photo as I was riding past a tramp