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  • BrandonA
    BrandonA Posts: 553
    Adam1985 wrote:
    Another biker overtakes you on the road?

    If so then why?

    Its only ever happened twice.

    The first time I unwittingly road the same roads as timetrial and someone with full disk wheels overtook whilst I was playing with my Garmin. This didn't bother me.

    The second time was at the end of sportive which I rode solo (and the weather was pants). It happened at the end of the ride up a steep hill and I was tanking. The chaps had S-Works like mine so I didn't mind either. I also recorded the fastest time on the sportive so I achieved what I wanted to on the day.

    Actually I almost had a third. I was going up a long hill (couple of miles) and someone joined it halfway up from a side road. They overtook me and not wanting to be annoying and slipstream him I kept my distance - about 10 metres. In the last couple of 100 metres of the climb they started to tire so I destroyed them passing them fast enough so that they could not take my wheel. I felt sorry for the chap as they put everything into overtaking me and I merely maintained a steady speed and powered over the crest and down the otherside - marathon not a sprint.

    I know there are faster people out there. If they can catch me, overtake me safely and are polite then I would not mind.

    I think I'd be embarrassed and slightly ashamed if someone on a non-road bike overtook me or someone that was clearly out of shape. I can't see this happening though, if it does you can be sure I won't admit it.
  • AK_jnr
    AK_jnr Posts: 717
    If you are going to overtake someone make sure you have something in reserve lol (unless its during a threshold effort)

    Its really quite dangerous when people wheel suck without letting you know though!
    I overtook a group of 6 Germans in Mallorca last week, thought nothing of it until a few miles down a road a looked to my side and they were all inches off my wheel. Not safe especially with the amount of times I swing off to go for a p1ss haha. So I just did what I always do if this happens. Drop them like a sack of sh1t.
  • homers_double
    homers_double Posts: 8,295
    There are times when a good fart comes into its own!
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  • BrandonA
    BrandonA Posts: 553
    Adam1985 wrote:
    The reason i ask is i was out on my road bike earlier knowing full well it was only going to be for a half hour blast sub 10 mile.. I was riding down this lane when i see a road biker ahead just cruising along and im going quite a bit quicker than they are..

    So i approach the bike and just overtake them continuing my ride only to look behind me after about 2 minutes and this person is right up my backside, i carry on my ride then next minute they come past at some speed quite cleary going hell for leather..

    It just made me think wow did i upset this bloke and he felt he needed to get past me again!!!

    Sort of reminded me of how it was when i owned a motorbike because it always happened with them..

    You'll start another discussion on the etiquette of sitting on a strangeres wheel when they overtake.

    You know when you're going to overtake someone and when it will happen by judging your and their speed, they however will 9/10 not know if you catch them quickly. I therefore get within 10-15 metres of them and take a few seconds rest. I then overtake as fast as I can and as wide of them as I can so they have very little time to react and get in my slipstream.
  • slowbike
    slowbike Posts: 8,498
    BrandonA wrote:
    You know when you're going to overtake someone and when it will happen by judging your and their speed, they however will 9/10 not know if you catch them quickly. I therefore get within 10-15 metres of them and take a few seconds rest. I then overtake as fast as I can and as wide of them as I can so they have very little time to react and get in my slipstream.


    oo yes ... must make sure I'm fully rested before attempting to overtake someone ... got to make it stick ...

    Alternatively, just ride up, check it's clear to overtake and offer a greeting as you go past. Is it really the end of the world if they try and sit in your slipstream? Chances are, if you've caught them and overtaken them then you'll probably lose them on the next climb anyway.
    It's not always a competition you know...
  • Moonbiker
    Moonbiker Posts: 1,706
    The first time I unwittingly road the same roads as timetrial

    I did that once

    I overtook 2 people then I sat up on the bike & followed a third guy along about 20 metres behind him to the end of the time trial course.
  • clickrumble
    clickrumble Posts: 304
    Only when I'm overtaken going up hill and the overtaker has clearly bust a gut to catch up and overtake, then slows down to just below my pace when directly in front.
  • mmacavity
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  • sloppyschleckonds
    sloppyschleckonds Posts: 8,019
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  • BrandonA
    BrandonA Posts: 553
    Slowbike wrote:
    BrandonA wrote:
    You know when you're going to overtake someone and when it will happen by judging your and their speed, they however will 9/10 not know if you catch them quickly. I therefore get within 10-15 metres of them and take a few seconds rest. I then overtake as fast as I can and as wide of them as I can so they have very little time to react and get in my slipstream.


    oo yes ... must make sure I'm fully rested before attempting to overtake someone ... got to make it stick ...

    Alternatively, just ride up, check it's clear to overtake and offer a greeting as you go past. Is it really the end of the world if they try and sit in your slipstream? Chances are, if you've caught them and overtaken them then you'll probably lose them on the next climb anyway.
    It's not always a competition you know...

    I never said it was a competition.

    I personally don't want someone I don't know sitting on my wheel. You might not be worried about inexperienced riders rear ending you but I do.

    I could drop them on the next hill but it is a bit embarrassing when you catch someone but fail to drop them and then have to put in a second effort on the next hill to finish the job. Far safer and cleaner to drop them immediately and continue my solo ride alone.
  • tootsie323
    tootsie323 Posts: 199
    BrandonA wrote:
    ... it is a bit embarrassing when you catch someone but fail to drop them and then have to put in a second effort on the next hill to finish the job. Far safer and cleaner to drop them immediately and continue my solo ride alone.
    I could not help but notice how this makes me wonder whether you might be a mugger, or assassin, as opposed to a cyclist!
  • Initialised
    Initialised Posts: 3,047
    SloppySchleckonds wrote:
    No shame in allowing someone to overtake when you swing into a headwind, then wheelsuck them for a mile or 5
    +1
    I used to just ride my bike to work but now I find myself going out looking for bigger and bigger hills.
  • rpherts
    rpherts Posts: 207
    Only when they appear from nowhere 6 inches away from you and bellow "GOOD MORNING" in your ear.

    Overtake me as much as you want; just give me the same room you expect car drivers to give you.
  • slowbike
    slowbike Posts: 8,498
    BrandonA wrote:
    I personally don't want someone I don't know sitting on my wheel. You might not be worried about inexperienced riders rear ending you but I do.
    Nope - don't worry - if they're fast enough to sit on my back wheel then fine. I've towed someone I didn't know for a few miles, then took a longer route home to have a chat - he was grateful for the tow as he'd done a fair mileage before I passed him.
    Another occasion I had a guy jump on my wheel as I passed, I just kept going at my own pace and after a mile he dropped off.
    Where I ride nothing happens suddenly, it's all nicely flowing - perhaps it's a bit different if you're constantly having to change speed/direction.
    BrandonA wrote:
    I could drop them on the next hill but it is a bit embarrassing when you catch someone but fail to drop them and then have to put in a second effort on the next hill to finish the job. Far safer and cleaner to drop them immediately and continue my solo ride alone.
    Embarrassing? How come - do you know them?
    Relax & ride at your pace and let others worry about themselves.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,580
    BrandonA sounds like he must be a top, top pro. :roll:
  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    Dorset Boy wrote:
    BrandonA sounds like he must be a top, top pro. :roll:
    He's certainly an expert at condescension.
  • florerider
    florerider Posts: 1,112
    MountainMonster wrote:
    I've got 2 single speed bikes, so I regularly get passed by roadies, especially on downhill sections.

    I don't really care. If they pass me it means they have better gearing and legs. Most definitely not the end of the world.

    Last time I was out I got drafted on my SS - which seems odd, someone who knows how to draft but is paced by me on my winter trainer - what's that about?
  • damocles10
    damocles10 Posts: 340
    It only happens when I let it. :)
  • Miles253
    Miles253 Posts: 535
    Nah it's not annoying, though I do begrudge them if they won't even say hello. Same courtesy I extend to people I overtake
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  • mmacavity
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  • Steve236
    Steve236 Posts: 212
    I'm always surprised how infrequently I meet other cyclists going the same way as me. I ride around Surrey/Berkshire at the weekends so its popular enough - I just assume everyone must be going at pretty much the same speed. I don't get annoyed when I'm passed except for once when I was riding up Camden High Street and hit every red light where someone who I kept passing made a point of coming past and stopping right in front of me. By the time I got to the bottom of Haverstock Hill I looked like this :evil:
  • lancew
    lancew Posts: 680
    I don't get annoyed but I do get frustrated because recently I've been riding with my Dad who I can't just leave behind him being a portly man on an old steel Claud Butler hybrid.

    However normally if I'm over taken I will use it as motivation to try and keep pace, not to overtake unless the person in front slows down, but to use as a booster to get me over having slipped into a lull, which is great and I really appreciate. I don't sit so close that I'm pulling aero because I don't want to worry anyone but I sit 1-2 meters back at closest and enjoy the extra effort and speed.

    Last guy I did this with was on my ride to Ramsgate and I locked onto his wheel down some really cool bike paths and then as we crested the hill pulled up along side for a brief chat which was cool and then waited at the Viking ship for Dad and friends to catch up.
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  • Flâneur
    Flâneur Posts: 3,081
    When a stranger sits on my wheel without a hello, do you mind or thank you.
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  • ktuludays
    ktuludays Posts: 97
    it doesn't really bother me. i ride for fitness and enjoyment and am aware of my limits. i do use the overtaker as a means of pushing myself a little but i quickly slip back knowing i'll kill myslf trying to keep up.

    I have a cycling friend who although in his late 20's has some rather traditional values when it comes to women and such, the kind of values your grandad may have had back in the day. I was on a ride with him last year and towards the end of a 60 miler we were just riding along at a steady 15-20 mph when a woman on a hybrid passed us with fully loaded panniers at some speed. my mate said "i'm not fucking having that, she's a woman!" and off he went to prove his point. he did pass her and i stayed behind her cos the view was rather splendid!

    some people get angry, others don't. i passed a guy on a hybrid the other night and he instantly dropped a gear and came after me.
  • sloppyschleckonds
    sloppyschleckonds Posts: 8,019
    ktuludays wrote:
    I have a cycling friend who although in his late 20's has some rather traditional values when it comes to women and such, the kind of values your grandad may have had back in the day.

    Misogynistic and sexist?
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  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    Steve236 wrote:
    I'm always surprised how infrequently I meet other cyclists going the same way as me. I ride around Surrey/Berkshire at the weekends so its popular enough - I just assume everyone must be going at pretty much the same speed. I don't get annoyed when I'm passed except for once when I was riding up Camden High Street and hit every red light where someone who I kept passing made a point of coming past and stopping right in front of me. By the time I got to the bottom of Haverstock Hill I looked like this :evil:


    I suppose there could be loads out but if they are all going the same speed you'll never see them.

    I've noticed that on sportives haven't seen anyone for ages but then I stop for a rest and there's a steady stream coming past. Those who are faster than me are already ahead, those who are slower are behind.
  • roger_merriman
    roger_merriman Posts: 6,165
    rpherts wrote:
    Only when they appear from nowhere 6 inches away from you and bellow "GOOD MORNING" in your ear.

    Overtake me as much as you want; just give me the same room you expect car drivers to give you.

    This, I may need to want to move around a pothole or what ever with out some one riding way too close.

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