36 spoke disc specifc rims

Kieran_Burns

Any ideas?

I'm sick of the whole spoke breaking thing now and reckon I should just get new rims and move the hope hubs over. As above I'd like some disc specific rims that do not have the braking surface on them (for purely aesthetic purposes obviously) so if anyone has any recommendations (and where to get them from) it'd be appreciated.

Oh and suitable good spokes (CX bike remember)

There's good LBS in the village so I can get him to build the wheels if I get him the parts

Levi_501

Have you tried Hope straight pull hubs?

The spokes seem to brake less often and because they are straight, they are a piece of you rine to put in.

UndercoverElephant

Not quite disk specific, but the H Plus Son Archetype rims are superb and have an anodised rim brake surface which just wouldn't wear away under braking. Light, strong and wider than normal rims which make them more comfortable. Also look the mutt's nuts.

As for spokes, Sapim Race are a good bet. Nice and strong, long lasting and relatively light. You'd be better off getting your wheel-builder to tell you the lengths he'd prefer before you buy them.

drlodge

UndercoverElephant wrote:

Not quite disk specific, but the H Plus Son Archetype rims are superb and have an anodised rim brake surface which just wouldn't wear away under braking. Light, strong and wider than normal rims which make them more comfortable. Also look the mutt's nuts.

As for spokes, Sapim Race are a good bet. Nice and strong, long lasting and relatively light. You'd be better off getting your wheel-builder to tell you the lengths he'd prefer before you buy them.

I was going to say the same, have just had a pair of XC wheels made up with these Archetype rims on Shimano XT hubs, using Sapim like spokes (double butted 2mm-1.8mm-2mm stainless steel).

But why are your spokes breaking? If its due to the wheel build then who built them? If it was your LBS then I don't think having another set made up would help much.

Kieran_Burns

drlodge wrote:

UndercoverElephant wrote:

Not quite disk specific, but the H Plus Son Archetype rims are superb and have an anodised rim brake surface which just wouldn't wear away under braking. Light, strong and wider than normal rims which make them more comfortable. Also look the mutt's nuts.

As for spokes, Sapim Race are a good bet. Nice and strong, long lasting and relatively light. You'd be better off getting your wheel-builder to tell you the lengths he'd prefer before you buy them.

I was going to say the same, have just had a pair of XC wheels made up with these Archetype rims on Shimano XT hubs, using Sapim like spokes (double butted 2mm-1.8mm-2mm stainless steel).

But why are your spokes breaking? If its due to the wheel build then who built them? If it was your LBS then I don't think having another set made up would help much.

JE James did the originals and they've been a bit crap all the time but I didn't use them much for a few months.

I'm going to have to dig out what the original rims were (I think Mavics)

gbsahne001

UndercoverElephant wrote:

Not quite disk specific, but the H Plus Son Archetype rims are superb and have an anodised rim brake surface which just wouldn't wear away under braking. Light, strong and wider than normal rims which make them more comfortable. Also look the mutt's nuts.

As for spokes, Sapim Race are a good bet. Nice and strong, long lasting and relatively light. You'd be better off getting your wheel-builder to tell you the lengths he'd prefer before you buy them.

Had these built up on an XT hub and they've been great so far

Kieran_Burns

I'm running 28C GP 4Seasons at the moment. I assume they will be okay on the new rims?

cyclingprop

Another vote for Hplusson archetypes. I've two pairs, one on hope pro3 and one on hope RS.

drlodge

28C GP 4Seasons will be just fine on Archetype (or any other 700c) rim. The Archetypes are a slightly wider rim than standard, supposedly it gives a better feeling to the ride since the tyre is no longer a "balloon" profile but more a semi-circular. I've fitted Vittoria Randdoneur Pro 32c to my CX wheels, since I'll use it on-road and mild-off road.

Kieran_Burns

Excellent and only £55 each ... just need to work out what the spoke length is for the Hope Pro IIs I have.

drlodge

You could ask Ugo...he built mine.

UndercoverElephant

Or ask the guy who's going to build them.

cyclingprop

Ugo or just riding along will be able to help you out.

anonymousblackfg

I'm on Halo Aerotrack 32 holes, been great so far and look better that Hsons. the black ones have a painted brake track.

drlodge

Painted brake track isn't a problem if you have disc brakes ;-)

UndercoverElephant

anonymousblackfg wrote:

I'm on Halo Aerotrack 32 holes, been great so far and look better that Hsons.

Objection, Your Honour. This is both subjective and very, very wrong.

Kieran_Burns

cyclingprop wrote:

Ugo or just riding along will be able to help you out.

Weird. that's the web-site I've found and am sending an email to at the moment

anonymousblackfg

UndercoverElephant wrote:

anonymousblackfg wrote:

I'm on Halo Aerotrack 32 holes, been great so far and look better that Hsons.

Objection, Your Honour. This is both subjective and very, very wrong.

I agree but personally I prefer looking like I didn't buy a 29er rim by mistake and then have someone attack it with tippex.

cyclingprop

Kieran_Burns wrote:

cyclingprop wrote:

Ugo or just riding along will be able to help you out.

Weird. that's the web-site I've found and am sending an email to at the moment

They're good and reasonably priced.

Kieran_Burns

Just got a laugh out loud response

Kieran,

If it's 36h then I assume it's built for strength - go for Sapim Race in black, 3-cross pattern. I would use these lengths (left/right) but if it's wrong don't blame me, you should check them....

Pro 2 Evo front 36h 3X 283 285
Pro 2 Evo rear 36h 3X 284 283

UndercoverElephant

Can't say as I blame the guy. I'd hate to give out spoke lengths - some swine will always come back and complain.

Kieran_Burns

I asked if he would build but they have a 2 week lead time

UndercoverElephant

Kieran_Burns wrote:

I asked if he would build but they have a 2 week lead time

That's hardly surprising this time of year - bonuses and the clocks changing probably make it the busiest time.

drlodge

Personally I would leave spoke length, and to some degree spoke choice, up to the person who's gonna build them for me. I would expect anyone who is building wheels to have spokes. Harry Rowland has a shed full, I dread to think how many hundred spokes are sitting in boxes under his worktop!

Where are you based Kieran?

[EDIT: Ah Derbyish neck of the woods...]

Kieran_Burns

Slightly embarrassed to find that that the wheels are 32 hole not 36 like I assumed... rapidly asking for a new quote from my LBS

drlodge

Kieran_Burns wrote:

Slightly embarrassed to find that that the wheels are 32 hole not 36 like I assumed... rapidly asking for a new quote from my LBS

:oops: I doubt the price would change.

Sharkyssurfers

I would ask if they could do solid discs instead of spokes with the luck you have been having

Kieran_Burns

Sharkyssurfers wrote:

I would ask if they could do solid discs instead of spokes with the luck you have been having

Fanks.

Any strange ticking parcels you may receive in the post are purely coincidental...

Stevo_666

I was going to say Ritchey OCR disc wheels (been good on my Boardman for 4 1/2 years), but then I counted the spokes and they've only got 32 - doh.

ugo.santalucia

For 32 You need 286 FL and 288 FR
Your need 287 rear L and R, or if you can't find 287, you do 288 L and 286 R

Kieran_Burns

ugo.santalucia wrote:

For 32 You need 286 FL and 288 FR
Your need 287 rear L and R, or if you can't find 287, you do 288 L and 286 R

Are you the Spoke God?

Or is that God has spoken...?




IGMC... :oops: