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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    You’d have enjoyed Carlton today @No_Ta_Doctor He was lecturing on Danish pronunciation but finished by concluding Danes don’t really get bothered by it as long as you make an effort as they know it’s a difficult language. There was also stuff about Double Danish as opposed to Double Dutch and no that’s not about pastries
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    Pross said:

    You’d have enjoyed Carlton today @No_Ta_Doctor He was lecturing on Danish pronunciation but finished by concluding Danes don’t really get bothered by it as long as you make an effort as they know it’s a difficult language. There was also stuff about Double Danish as opposed to Double Dutch and no that’s not about pastries

    Thank God I had Rolf Sørensen instead :-D

    It's true Danes are fairly chilled about te pronunciation stuff. They are very unchill about naming the wrong riders in an attack and that sort of stuff though, so it's swings and roundabouts for him.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Pross said:

    Carlton is making up for a relatively decent day yesterday by spouting absolute bollox today. Someone please take the mic off him.

    I am watching the ITT now.
    Within 15 minutes he’s not just talking utter Shiite about Mas being good against the clock but Cote du Rhone wine being the best value French vino at any price point?
    Not sure which is the most wrong.
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  • daniel_b
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    No_Ta_Doctor said:



    It's true Danes are fairly chilled about te pronunciation stuff. They are very unchill about naming the wrong riders in an attack and that sort of stuff though, so it's swings and roundabouts for him.

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  • mrb123
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    https://road.cc/content/review/sticky-bottle-cycling-year-according-carlton-kirby-301695

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  • stage_hunter
    stage_hunter Posts: 325
    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    Pross said:

    It’s strange that he now says he was never in love with cycling. I assume he means the actual taking part as he has definitely previously spoken about how he loved it as a fan and even since retiring he ran a race team, was involved in various cycling businesses etc.

    I don't think there's much point in overanalysing it, or trying to find a consistent interpretation. He's clearly got a lot of conflicting felings about it and doesn't have a coherent unified view. It's pretty normal really, just hyperfocused as that's all he's ever done and he's done it so hard.
    Exactly this. I’d add in addition that, shock horror, sports people, or anyone really, dont always tell the truth in interviews
  • bikes_and_dogs
    bikes_and_dogs Posts: 130
    I think that Carlton Kirby is the best. A lazy afternoon of cycling coverage is so much more enjoyable accompanied by his irreverent tones rather than Rob Hatch telling me that everything is unbelievable/unprecedented/superb.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,511
    bikes_and_dogs said:

    I think that Carlton Kirby is the best. A lazy afternoon of cycling coverage is so much more enjoyable accompanied by his irreverent tones rather than Rob Hatch telling me that everything is unbelievable/unprecedented/superb.

    This ^.

    Carlton often commentates on Le Mans and other endurance motor sport events. Though he doesn't do it very well - seems often to be out of his depth but there is little hyperbole if any.
    This evening, I was listening to the Le Mans free session commentary with it's relaxed but deliberate manner to which I lamented that cycling and many other sports would benefit from. It was fantastic to listen to informative comment without hysteria. Because that is the adjective I would use to describe Hatch, especially in the final few km's of a stage. Unfortunately,
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  • Pross
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    Poor attempt at trolling
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,823
    The key thing is I'm less concerned about watching stages as I know Carlton will be commentating.

    Yesterday I genuinely just watched the climb, saw Jonas was going to win and flicked over to the ZLM Tour.

    I'd watched the cricket up until that point as I didn't want to have to listen to him.

    It's demotivating me from watching when he's commentating
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,511
    edited June 2023
    Pross said:

    Poor attempt at trolling

    What? I rarely Troll unless these comedic effect to be had.
    Have a listen to the Le Mans qualifying today sometime and get a flavour of a quite different style of delivery.
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,511
    takethehighroad said:

    The key thing is I'm less concerned about watching stages as I know Carlton will be commentating.

    Yesterday I genuinely just watched the climb, saw Jonas was going to win and flicked over to the ZLM Tour.

    I'd watched the cricket up until that point as I didn't want to have to listen to him.

    It's demotivating me from watching when he's commentating

    Okay, we're all different. It's demotivating me from watching when Hatch is commentating.
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  • Pross
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    pinno said:

    Pross said:

    Poor attempt at trolling

    What? I rarely Troll unless these comedic effect to be had.
    Have a listen to the Le Mans qualifying today sometime and get a flavour of a quite different style of delivery.
    Not you, the one above.

    There’s a lot of commentators and ground between not liking Hatch’s hyperbole to decreeing Kirby ‘the best’. Lloyd, Blythe, McEwen and Stephens (albeit rarely) are excellent. They do quality commentary and have fun in the process without overdoing it.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,108
    It is all so subjective though - the 2 I'd ditch include one of your excellent list.
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  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,833
    DeVlaeminck said:

    It is all so subjective though - the 2 I'd ditch include one of your excellent list.

    Yes but anyone who thinks that Carlton is the best is silly and wrong.

  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    Unbelievably bad reading of the race by Kirby at the finish of Dauphine today.
  • poweredbyidris
    poweredbyidris Posts: 848
    Pross said:

    Unbelievably bad reading of the race by Kirby at the finish of Dauphine today.

    'unbelieveable'? Really? :p
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,511
    Pross said:

    pinno said:

    Pross said:

    Poor attempt at trolling

    What? I rarely Troll unless these comedic effect to be had.
    Have a listen to the Le Mans qualifying today sometime and get a flavour of a quite different style of delivery.
    Not you, the one above.

    There’s a lot of commentators and ground between not liking Hatch’s hyperbole to decreeing Kirby ‘the best’. Lloyd, Blythe, McEwen and Stephens (albeit rarely) are excellent. They do quality commentary and have fun in the process without overdoing it.
    I certainly didn't decree Kirby as the best.
    However, if you want to polarise opinions...
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    pinno said:

    Pross said:

    pinno said:

    Pross said:

    Poor attempt at trolling

    What? I rarely Troll unless these comedic effect to be had.
    Have a listen to the Le Mans qualifying today sometime and get a flavour of a quite different style of delivery.
    Not you, the one above.

    There’s a lot of commentators and ground between not liking Hatch’s hyperbole to decreeing Kirby ‘the best’. Lloyd, Blythe, McEwen and Stephens (albeit rarely) are excellent. They do quality commentary and have fun in the process without overdoing it.
    I certainly didn't decree Kirby as the best.
    However, if you want to polarise opinions...
    I know, I said I was referring to the post above yours that did.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,511
    Pross said:

    pinno said:

    Pross said:

    pinno said:

    Pross said:

    Poor attempt at trolling

    What? I rarely Troll unless these comedic effect to be had.
    Have a listen to the Le Mans qualifying today sometime and get a flavour of a quite different style of delivery.
    Not you, the one above.

    There’s a lot of commentators and ground between not liking Hatch’s hyperbole to decreeing Kirby ‘the best’. Lloyd, Blythe, McEwen and Stephens (albeit rarely) are excellent. They do quality commentary and have fun in the process without overdoing it.
    I certainly didn't decree Kirby as the best.
    However, if you want to polarise opinions...
    I know, I said I was referring to the post above yours that did.
    I'm confused.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    bikes_and_dogs said:

    I think that Carlton Kirby is the best. A lazy afternoon of cycling coverage is so much more enjoyable accompanied by his irreverent tones rather than Rob Hatch telling me that everything is unbelievable/unprecedented/superb.

    I bet you think that Cotes du Rhône is the bees knees as well.

    Wtf was he on about these past two days about Omar Fraile?
    Is he still clueless as to how Skineos domestiques ride?
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  • blazing_saddles
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    pinno said:

    Pross said:

    pinno said:

    Pross said:

    pinno said:

    Pross said:

    Poor attempt at trolling

    What? I rarely Troll unless these comedic effect to be had.
    Have a listen to the Le Mans qualifying today sometime and get a flavour of a quite different style of delivery.
    Not you, the one above.

    There’s a lot of commentators and ground between not liking Hatch’s hyperbole to decreeing Kirby ‘the best’. Lloyd, Blythe, McEwen and Stephens (albeit rarely) are excellent. They do quality commentary and have fun in the process without overdoing it.
    I certainly didn't decree Kirby as the best.
    However, if you want to polarise opinions...
    I know, I said I was referring to the post above yours that did.
    I'm confused.
    That’s how the majority of us feel when Carlton goes a rambling.

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    edited June 2023
    pinno said:

    Pross said:

    pinno said:

    Pross said:

    pinno said:

    Pross said:

    Poor attempt at trolling

    What? I rarely Troll unless these comedic effect to be had.
    Have a listen to the Le Mans qualifying today sometime and get a flavour of a quite different style of delivery.
    Not you, the one above.

    There’s a lot of commentators and ground between not liking Hatch’s hyperbole to decreeing Kirby ‘the best’. Lloyd, Blythe, McEwen and Stephens (albeit rarely) are excellent. They do quality commentary and have fun in the process without overdoing it.
    I certainly didn't decree Kirby as the best.
    However, if you want to polarise opinions...
    I know, I said I was referring to the post above yours that did.
    I'm confused.
    This was the post I was talking about (although you did say ^this in the post after it which would imply you agreed)
    bikes_and_dogs said:

    I think that Carlton Kirby is the best. A lazy afternoon of cycling coverage is so much more enjoyable accompanied by his irreverent tones rather than Rob Hatch telling me that everything is unbelievable/unprecedented/superb.

    This was the post that I was saying was a poor attempt at trolling, not yours and was the one that stated Carlton Kirby is the best. Not everything is about you 😉
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,511
    Pross said:

    pinno said:

    Pross said:

    pinno said:

    Pross said:

    pinno said:

    Pross said:

    Poor attempt at trolling

    What? I rarely Troll unless these comedic effect to be had.
    Have a listen to the Le Mans qualifying today sometime and get a flavour of a quite different style of delivery.
    Not you, the one above.

    There’s a lot of commentators and ground between not liking Hatch’s hyperbole to decreeing Kirby ‘the best’. Lloyd, Blythe, McEwen and Stephens (albeit rarely) are excellent. They do quality commentary and have fun in the process without overdoing it.
    I certainly didn't decree Kirby as the best.
    However, if you want to polarise opinions...
    I know, I said I was referring to the post above yours that did.
    I'm confused.
    This was the post I was talking about (although you did say ^this in the post after it which would imply you agreed)
    bikes_and_dogs said:

    I think that Carlton Kirby is the best. A lazy afternoon of cycling coverage is so much more enjoyable accompanied by his irreverent tones rather than Rob Hatch telling me that everything is unbelievable/unprecedented/superb.

    This was the post that I was saying was a poor attempt at trolling, not yours and was the one that stated Carlton Kirby is the best. Not everything is about you 😉
    [Wrong end of stick: Pays de Galles, nil points for the jibe]

    I was confused as to why you didn't quote to avoid any confusion.
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  • rich_pcp
    rich_pcp Posts: 113
    Did anyone notice how friendly and responsive Brian Smith was in the Dauphine?
    He's normally sullen to the point of rudeness when he's sharing comms with that tosser Kirby?
    I think someone must have told him to cheer up and actually say something now and again.
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,823
    Hannah Walker made what I believe is her debut over the weekend on the Belgian chippers.

    She was particularly impressive calling the sprint of the Elfstedenronde. Rider identification was on point and added the right amount of excitement to it
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 12,041
    takethehighroad said:

    Hannah Walker made what I believe is her debut over the weekend on the Belgian chippers.

    She was particularly impressive calling the sprint of the Elfstedenronde. Rider identification was on point and added the right amount of excitement to it

    Was it Hannah who was on the ground in the Giro, like at the finish of stages etc?
    I thought she was excellent in the main, still growing into that role - would like to hear her commentary.

    Not a big fan of either of the Dani's commentary I must admit.
    Ambivalent is probably a better word - doesn't reduce the enjoyment like ck, but doesn't seem to add much.
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  • gethinceri
    gethinceri Posts: 1,677
    edited June 2023
    I am content to abide Dani Christmas.
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  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    takethehighroad said:

    Hannah Walker made what I believe is her debut over the weekend on the Belgian chippers.

    She was particularly impressive calling the sprint of the Elfstedenronde. Rider identification was on point and added the right amount of excitement to it

    She's doing Tour of Slovenia at the moment with Pippa York. Literally the first thing I heard from Walker was a big "Oi!" as someone went down. Thought that summed up the situation quite nicely...

    So far she strikes me as someone who does a lot of homework, John Motson style, but she's giving York plenty of chance to speak too. It's a good pairing - I don't think I've heard Pippa York being quite this sparkly on comms before.
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  • stage_hunter
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    takethehighroad said:

    Hannah Walker made what I believe is her debut over the weekend on the Belgian chippers.

    She was particularly impressive calling the sprint of the Elfstedenronde. Rider identification was on point and added the right amount of excitement to it

    She has done lead comms before I think- pretty sure she did some stuff on GCN last year, just not much.

    She sounds a lot like Paul Sherwen to me. That is supposed to be a compliment I should add.

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