Planet X vs Canyon vs Rose

Hi,
admittedly a common topic, but looking for a sub-1000 pound bike, although I'm limited to online retailers as I'm buying from sweden, where a LBS would be very expensive. I'm not too fussed about a carbon bike necessarily, whatever works best. This is mostly for weekend rides, but I'd probably like to do a multi-day thing at some point (so the possibility of adding a pannier would be a plus).
Anyway, the standout options I've seen so far are, in increasing order of price:
Rose PRO-SL 2000 (£860 delivered)
http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/bike/rose-pr ... aid:668081
Canyon Roadlite 6.0 (£950 delivered)
http://www.canyon.com/_en/roadbikes/bike.html?b=3191
Planet-X (£1000 delivered)
http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CBPXSLPULT ... -road-bike
The two germans are full 105/aluminium, planet-x is carbon/ultegra bits, but not much between them weight-wise. I like the look of the Canyon, but the Rose is the cheapest and lightest (under 8kg), so surely the most sensible option? Any thoughts on these (or other options)?
Cheers!
admittedly a common topic, but looking for a sub-1000 pound bike, although I'm limited to online retailers as I'm buying from sweden, where a LBS would be very expensive. I'm not too fussed about a carbon bike necessarily, whatever works best. This is mostly for weekend rides, but I'd probably like to do a multi-day thing at some point (so the possibility of adding a pannier would be a plus).
Anyway, the standout options I've seen so far are, in increasing order of price:
Rose PRO-SL 2000 (£860 delivered)
http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/bike/rose-pr ... aid:668081
Canyon Roadlite 6.0 (£950 delivered)
http://www.canyon.com/_en/roadbikes/bike.html?b=3191
Planet-X (£1000 delivered)
http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CBPXSLPULT ... -road-bike
The two germans are full 105/aluminium, planet-x is carbon/ultegra bits, but not much between them weight-wise. I like the look of the Canyon, but the Rose is the cheapest and lightest (under 8kg), so surely the most sensible option? Any thoughts on these (or other options)?
Cheers!
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They are also lighter than the planet x carbon!, have better wheels and finishing kit. They also have full group set (apart from rose chain set)
I would go with the canyon or look at the next model above at rose.the SL3000 is only 140 more than the planet x and has full Ultegra 6800 , 7.6kg and has very nice finishing kit. All the rose biles have smooth welds too which is nice (apart from the matt black ones)
If you are shopping from Sweden then it might be worthwhile looking at bikebuster.se as they have some pretty good prices, especially on Wilier bikes. You can get the Wilier Izoard XP with campagnolo veloce for under 12k SEK at the moment. (no connection with the shop, BTW)
For the ones recommending canyon, any particular reason to pick it up over the Rose? This is considering the rose is £90 cheaper, which is not insignificant. As far as I can tell, the Rose is lighter, and has the same kit, except for the non-105 crankset, does that make that much of a difference? It's customisable, so I could upgrade the wheels with that money for example (although that's one thing I know nothing about). Or I could be £90 better off.
In terms of the more expensive options (rose sl3000/wilier izoard), I think the differences would be lost on me, so would rather not spend that much. My previous bike was an old cannondale (not very heavy, but heavier than these for sure) with sora/tiagra gears, and I was quite happy with that (although I gave it away), so any of these is going to feel like a pretty good upgrade... I did have 105 shifters, and liked them, so would still lean towards the rose/canyon over wilier, although local is usually better...
The Canyon has a full 105 groupset and Mavic wheels and by all accounts a cracking frame.
I used the 5700 and 6700 groupsets during last year and there's squat between them so don't be swayed by the Ultegra shifters.
Aesthetically the Canyon is head and shoulders above the Px.
It's a well proven frame that we've been very happy with for a number of years and we continue to have great feedback from our customers on.
Yes - Ultegra. That's Ultegra STI's, front mech, rear mech, cassette and chain. We use a non-series 5-level (105 equivalent) crank and brakeset.
FSA Vision 30's are "a bit dodgy?" I'm not aware of that.
Good effort Brant. Where are the Germans now eh?
Only reason is the Rose is nicely finished in terms of the welding (on non matt black models). Apart from the FSA Chainset, the rest is 105 and more than adequate. Its still lighter than the Planet X and has a good finishing kit like the Canyon. Looking at reviews a better frame than the PLX too. Oh and its the cheapest.
The Canyon is very nice too with full 105. :? NOTE HOWEVER - You cant customise the Canyon. You can the Rose. (spacers, colour, bartape etc etc etc) That, and the fact Canyon take longer to ship would put me back on the Rose.
I have been thinking about getting a Rose bike - Having a look around the site you can also put the £90 saving towards some matching ROSE Cycling jerseys and shorts which looks excellent value too. :P
decisions decisions.
Decisions decisions indeed! My point of view is not whether it's worth £150 over the planet-x, but if it's worth £300 over the sl2000 (probably not). As I said before, the canyon/rose are so close, the price could lean it towards the latter, or at least that's my pov now, I'll take some time to think about it.
Rickeverett, what's the difference in the welding with the black matt models? I was kind of leaning towards that, although black/green (possibly replacing the fluorescent bartape) could work too.. Also, what do people mean by 'finishing kit'?
EDIT: How much of a difference does having an FSA crankset make?
If you have a look at the colour options for the ROSE bike and press the Camera icon for a actual photo, you will notice that the matt black model doesn't have smooth welding for some reason. Shiny Black and other colour models do, so watch out.
IMO The smooth welds sell it for me on a Aluminium frame. Looks much better.
Finishing kit is things like the Handelbars & Stem, Bartape, Saddle, Seatpost, Spacers and bits like that etc. On the Canyon and Rose they are all good branded stuff.
The £300 difference looking at the comparison is..... : Full Ultegra 6800 Groupset (inc Ultegra Chainset), 11 Speed, 300g less weight overall, Slightly Better (lighter) Seatpost, Slightly Better (lighter) Stem and a couple of little things like tape.
The FSA Chainset/Crankset wont make much difference really . Might be a tad heavier and arguably isn't optimised in the way shimano would like to do shifting wise (if it was a 105 one with 105 chain and 105 shifter etc). I wouldn't worry though.
Me personally If I was prepared to spend £1000 on Planet X, I would pay for the new Ultegra SL3000.
A new 105 Groupset is coming out soon so that would date the bike straight away + you may be thinking in a few months "I wonder if I should have gone for the 3000" hehe.
http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CBPXRT57UL ... -road-bike
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£1142 - full 6800, Lighter Frame (7.65kg all in size 57), Full Internal Cable, Mavic Aksium S WTS Wheels , Good Finishing Kit :P
http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/bike/rose-pr ... tchanged=1
OP has lots to decide on that for sure !
One think about Planet X - its UK so better in a way for the OP support wise instead of shipping to Germany etc.
4 weeks later I had one in my house, a CRS3000 with all the trimmings. Its only done 100km so far as the weather has been poor. The customisation on the website is fantastic.... Changed the bits you don't like / want for ones you I do. The only slight negative is the fact that the Magic Kysrium elite wts come with 23mm tires only.... The WTS stands for with tire system and you can't swap the rubber
I was playing around with the options, and an additional £100 gives the Rose Xeon Aero 1500/Rose RS 1400 wheelsets with Grand Prix 4000S tyres. Comparing their retail price with the price of the mavic aksium, it seems like a good deal (paying less than the difference). It saves 500g (plus I could put on 25mm tyres, which would probably be better), but can't find anything online about their quality...
Kinesis Tripster ATR
Orro Oxygen
I can choose what tires to put on, although there's not much choice. I was thinking the Continental Grand Prix 4000s as they seem to get good reviews, not sure if they're the same as yours..
They are via Rose only, hence no reviews... They look good however.! But the rear has a thicker profile which looks odd imo.
Mavic Aksium S WTS = 2425g For Wheelset + Tyres &Tubes (1735g for Wheelset)
ROSE RS1400 Wheelset = 1400g for wheelset / Continental GP4000S 23C = 410g / Tubes around 100g each. 2010g for Wheelset (est)
I'd forgotten about the tube weight! Still, 400g saved for £100 seems a reasonable investment? Plus I can then put a 25mm tyre...
I can see why you say that but I actually like the overall look it gives the bike - matter of taste I guess.
Kinesis Tripster ATR
Orro Oxygen
Both have base price of €1,000.
When you change to 105 crank on Rose (to match it with Canyon), its extra €40.
When you change the tyre to Continental 4000S on Rose (to match it with Canyon) , its extra €60.
Hence Rose works out €1,100 when Canyon have both of the above in €1,000.
Am I missing something as previously its been said that Rose is €90 cheaper ?
which models are you looking at. ?