need FS sub £100 a month

D4V1D

Thewaylander wrote:

cooldad wrote:

D4V1D wrote:

My realistic budget for bike spec would be between £2000 - £3400. Which would be between £50 - £100 a month.

That's somewhere between 3 and 4 years paying a bike off. Seriously - too long. 12 months cycle to work type scheme makes sense, years doesn't.
IMHO of course.

depends if its 0% finance then the longer he pays the more he will earn on the cash he hasn't paid out techicnally.

It's not me who thinks that at as well then. Not forgetting if it's on credit card the 2% cash back . As to cycle schemes they can be a bit limiting depending on what scheme your employer uses.

cooldad

Thewaylander wrote:

cooldad wrote:

D4V1D wrote:

My realistic budget for bike spec would be between £2000 - £3400. Which would be between £50 - £100 a month.

That's somewhere between 3 and 4 years paying a bike off. Seriously - too long. 12 months cycle to work type scheme makes sense, years doesn't.
IMHO of course.

depends if its 0% finance then the longer he pays the more he will earn on the cash he hasn't paid out techicnally.

Potentially, but being generous, probably about £100 over a few years. Bet you could get a much bigger discount paying cash (on a 0% credit card if necessary).

Thing is do you really want long term payments on a bicycle. It could be trashed, or just boring by then.

njee20

This one comes in under budget, 1kg lighter than your target and includes a dropper post. It is carbon and has 26" wheels though.

D4V1D

D4V1D wrote:

Been to local Trek shop today, demo bikes are to small to use, I'm 6'3" 95kg aiming for sub 90kg

The 29er Remedy 8 seems great, Slash also is well equipped. But buying a bike just on looks & spec is mad when the bike is such an investment. if I brought the wrong size or model I'd just have to love it & live with it.

Do you have any ideas? Demo days sound great but I also hear about them after they have happened.

njee20 wrote:

You've received tonnes of advice, but the point is that you're not helping yourself by not having a clue what to buy.

If you go onto a car forum and say "I want a car, it must have 4 wheels and cost between £8000 and £95000, what should I buy?" would you expect a lot of agreement!?

Did you read the opening post, your analogy is flawed.

I gave a make I liked (Trek) I also gave two models I was considering to buy, one being a Remedy 8 & the other being a Slash. I made no mention to wanting a cycle having two wheels.

If your analogy was more along the lines of "I went to a Ford showroom, I've seen a Ford Focus and a Ford Focus STI but the doors were locked & they didn't have the keys" would have been a fairer representation of the opening post, but would have less of an impact.

Read through it twice as there will be some grammar mistakes you can pick up on.

njee20

Actually no, but whatever, can't be arsed! You want our help and advice, I sure as fuck don't need yours!

D4V1D

njee20 wrote:

Actually no, but whatever, can't be arsed! You want our help and advice, I sure as fark don't need yours!

Well apart from RockMonkeySC, Rickbst170, Thewaylander, the rest have just been abusive. As for help & advice ..... that has been really thin on the ground.

cooldad

I see plenty of opinions, questions and suggestions, but no abuse?

D4V1D

Looks like I'm going to be busy trying some new bikes.

http://www.lapierre-bikes.co.uk/mtb-all ... sty-am-427

http://www.trekbikes.com/uk/en/bikes/mo ... el_ex_6_29

http://www.trekbikes.com/uk/en/bikes/mo ... dy_7_27_uk

http://whyte.bike/2014/product.php?xPro ... a4bc499b8e

http://whyte.bike/2014/product.php?xPro ... a4bc499b8e

http://www.thetrailhead.co.uk/cube-ster ... -819-p.asp

rickbst170

Of all of those, I think the better spec trek and the cube off best gear for the money. Consider the nukeproof tr pro too. Towards the upper end of the budget but from what I hear they're amazing. I don't think the components on the lapierre justify the cost, but they are supposed to be nice frames. As you already have a hardtail why not go for 130-150mm travel for the rough riding days and the hardtail for the flatter days out. I suspect you already have around that on the hardtail, and having the same bike but with a rear shock for 2k seems bad economy. Why not have a different bike so then you have two which have different purposes, rather than two with the same purpose (I.e. making the ht redundant). Just a thought.

D4V1D

Thanks Rick that does put a new spin on it, & gives a point to aim at. I like the sound of the middle ground of the 27.5 wheel. Which of these do you think has the better spec for the price.

http://www.globalbike.co.uk/nukeproof-m ... -2014.html

https://www.canyon.com/_en/mountainbike ... ab-reiter2

The one bike will have a bit of a lead time before I could get my hands on it.

Dave

rickbst170

Both very nice bikes. Either will put a massive smile on your face and are sexy to look at. Tough call; the nukeproof has 20mm more travel but unless you're going to go big or hard, 140mm will be a big difference from ht. Canyon has nicer drivetrain (xt groupset with elixer 7 brakes), slightly less meaty forks (fox 32 140mm). Nukeproof has bigger fork (160mm pike) but much lower spec gear (sram x7, x5 and elixer 3). I think it would cost more to upgrade the running gear on the nuke to match the canyon than it would to upgrade the forks on the canyon to pikes, so based on that the better value for money is the canyon.

As for frames, I've not ridden either (actually, havent ridden a bike for 7 years) so that will be a debate for others to comment on. So if this if this is the shortlist which I think is a damn tidy shortlist, the last question is which frame is better for xc/am with the am tending towards xc rather than fr I think in your case.

D4V1D

Thankyou for the calm advice, I've read through the specs and frame geometry. Short list has changed to Canyon Spectral Al 6.9 in white which is a 29er Or Spectral Al 6.0 in white which is a 27.5.

I'll have a demo on 29 & 27.5 to see whuch one lights me fire.

mcnultycop

You'll struggle to demo a Canyon

D4V1D

Sorry I didn't make it clear, I agree that I will struggle to demo a canyon but I'm aiming to demo a 29er & 27.5 back to back with similar frame style to the canyon if possible.

Myster101

Try out the Nukeproof that you listed as well if you can, it's a great machine (but then I own one so I'm biased ).

I was stuck between the Nukeproof 275 and the Lapierre 327, Pikes on the Nukeproof and great reviews (although the Lapierre gets great reviews as well) decided it in the end. Surprisingly good at climbing for a 160mm bike and a beast when pointing downhill.

mc_hawkings24

I'm also going for a monthly payment deal same as you but 18 months. I was looking at most of the same bikes aswell like the lapierres that look really nice aesthetically but from the reviews I've read about the ctd shocks its abit of an off putter. Also looked at the cubes mainly cube frittz which at £1800 is a good price and spec and you can adjust the steerer tube negative or positive but not sure on the looks. Same as the treks the older fuels I think looked better but then looked at the mega tr comp but with 150mm forks, don't want to be pushing it up the hill
Only thing that I'd change later on would be the rockshox monarch r and the elixier brakes. Other than that looks like a good solid bike but yet to try one out. I'd also go 27.5" as it looks like the new thing judging by most manufactures switching to it.

singletrackbikes.co.uk are selling it abit cheaper than global but there websites down

D4V1D

After reading this months What Mountain Bike, it seems as those the Canyon Spectral AL _.0 range which is the 130mm FS, 27.5 wheel is undersized for anyone 6' and over. Bugger as I really liked the idea of this bike. Looks like it might boil down to a Canyon Spectral AL 6.9 as this has an XL size where as the Spectral AL_.0 stops at the L size.

Any feedback would be helpful.

t0pc4t

it's 140mm and I've not read WMB yet but I would be interested to know what it means by undersized.

6' is not super tall and so at 6'2" I'm pretty confident the Spectral in large will be fine. The canyon size calculator suggested a medium but when I contacted them they recommended a large.

For me the difference between the 29 and 650b was more to do with riding style than height of rider.