Do you live in the engine room? Friday's confessional poll

greg66_tri_v2.0

Forgive the DM link, but this is quite interesting. Ten London constituencies contribute 10% of the nation's tax take.

I would imagine that quite a high proportion of posters here are in this fiscal "kill zone". Yes or no?

rubertoe

Is this not London Constituencies rather than Boroughs?

From the text it appears so but the image highlights my entire Borough?
Depending on the answer depends to that depends on the answer I give.

Anonymous

Richmond seems awfully large

greg66_tri_v2.0

rubertoe wrote:

Is this not London Constituencies rather than Boroughs?

From the text it appears so but the image highlights my entire Borough?
Depending on the answer depends to that depends on the answer I give.

Quite right. Amended accordingly. DM prob too lazy to find a constituency map.

I'm liking that last sentence though. Very dependent.

notsoblue

I do. And I'm aware of what a privilege it is.

craker

ah, thank feck

Edit - Sorry are we trying to determine how many commuters (who are respondents to this poll) do some of their commuting in some bits of London? Why is that then?

Anyway, ah....

rubertoe

:shock:

I dont in that case. But I'd imagine that the constituency that i do live in would generally feature fairly highly on this list. Or maybe it doesn't. I guess it depends....

lancew

I don't but I work for a private office of a man who lives in one of them though, and he pays a fair whack of tax.

veronese68

I do as my bit of Kingston comes under the Richmond Park constituency. Should I move to normal Kingston as I'm not a higher rate tax payer?

arran77

Veronese68 wrote:

I do as my bit of Kingston comes under the Richmond Park constituency. Should I move to normal Kingston as I'm not a higher rate tax payer?

Stop trying to pretend that you're a higher class of cycling pleb :P

veronese68

arran77 wrote:

Veronese68 wrote:

I do as my bit of Kingston comes under the Richmond Park constituency. Should I move to normal Kingston as I'm not a higher rate tax payer?

Stop trying to pretend that you're a higher class of cycling pleb :P

You're just jealous because I'm a better pleb than you.

LiveGiantly

No I don't.....

**thinks whether to visit his local Morleys chicken shop later**

jds_1981

For some reason Walthamstow doesn't appear in there?
Also, with income tax maps, wouldn't it be better shown where earned, rather than where the person tends to be when they're not working?

rjsterry

I'm an outsider.

More seriously, not that I doubt that those are the wealthiest bits of Greater London (and the UK, I presume), but I'm a bit sceptical of the stats. It would be a pretty major undertaking to get a 'total tax paid' figure (including all forms of taxation) for each person and then correlate that with their parliamentary constituency. I can't see a source for the figures in the article, but would be interested to know how they were arrived at.

arran77

Veronese68 wrote:

arran77 wrote:

Veronese68 wrote:

I do as my bit of Kingston comes under the Richmond Park constituency. Should I move to normal Kingston as I'm not a higher rate tax payer?

Stop trying to pretend that you're a higher class of cycling pleb :P

You're just jealous because I'm a better pleb than you.

I iz a cuntry pleb oh are

talius

I suspect a strong correlation with constituency population size.

anonymousblackfg

I would have thought my constituency would have been but no, I personally blame that lemon Ed Davey and his lack of vision on cycling, is keeping the borough from maxing out of tax revenues.

Time for a revolution perhaps to steal back some of the wealth of those in Ham.

EKE_38BPM

Yeah I do. It doesn't make me rich though.

roger_merriman

No just out in Richmond upon Thames council.

MrSweary

Edited out dumb.

Live in St Margarets and work in Mayfair so no. Would be nice to be able to afford a house here but not happening so I'm moving to Beckenham soon (I hope).

First.Aspect

How must of a surprise is this, really? Those 10 constituencies account for a population of about 700,000 people. Essentially, the article is stating that the richest parts of a city of about 7 million people pay more tax than a country with a population of 5 million (Scotland) or 3 million (Wales).

That's just progressive taxation isn't it? If you scale that down to some other affluent UK city, say Oxford, Cambridge, Edinburgh, you'd see precisely the same pattern. The only difference is that London is so large that you see the pattern when the stats are resolved down to constituencies, whereas other cities are so small that a single constituency includes a far larger part of that city.

It wasn't so long ago that Edinburgh boasted more millionaires per capita than London. I don't recall any bleeting about Edinburgh propping up the rest of Scotland, or indeed subsidising Hackney. This London centricity is really getting old.

Stevo_666

MrSweary wrote:

Edited out dumb.

Live in St Margarets and work in Mayfair so no. Would be nice to be able to afford a house here but not happening so I'm moving to Beckenham soon (I hope).

Never had Beckenham down as a cheap place to live - but it's a good option. PM me if you want a few tips, iIve been here for 15 yrs.

pinno

Veronese68 wrote:

arran77 wrote:

Veronese68 wrote:

I do as my bit of Kingston comes under the Richmond Park constituency. Should I move to normal Kingston as I'm not a higher rate tax payer?

Stop trying to pretend that you're a higher class of cycling pleb :P

You're just jealous because I'm a better pleb than you.

Is this 'plebgate' all over again?

rick_chasey

Greg66 Tri v2.0 wrote:

I would imagine that quite a high proportion of posters here are in this fiscal "kill zone". Yes or no?

Kill zone??


http://youtu.be/NzKr2yp-Sek

MisterMuncher

Densely populated areas with high property prices found to contain disproportionate number of high earners relative to less densely populated, lower priced areas.

Is this just tying the reporter over while he works on the sequel to his groundbreaking piece on the arboreal habits of bears, a blow by blow expose of what the Pope gets up to on a Sunday morning?

rolf_f

Engine room? Or bridge. The place that the extravagantly paid get to shout orders from which then go to the people who actually move the ship and who, for the most part, could do their job perfectly well without the bridge staff (but not vice versa)......

MrSweary

Stevo 666 wrote:

MrSweary wrote:

Edited out dumb.

Live in St Margarets and work in Mayfair so no. Would be nice to be able to afford a house here but not happening so I'm moving to Beckenham soon (I hope).

Never had Beckenham down as a cheap place to live - but it's a good option. PM me if you want a few tips, iIve been here for 15 yrs.

Compared to St Margarets it is affordable for us. Everything is relative though. Thanks for the offer. I'll be seeking some route advice at some point!

rick_chasey

From my experience, London, especially central london, has more in common with other developed international cities like New York, Hong Kong, Singapore etc than it does with the rest of the UK.

It spends a lot of time competing with those places and a lot of time interacting with them too. Certainly in my business and in the industry I work in you're much more likely to move to New York or Singapore than you are to Sheffield or Birmingham.

I find the general London versus the rest of the UK rhetoric misses that important point.

Stevo_666

Rick Chasey wrote:

From my experience, London, especially central london, has more in common with other developed international cities like New York, Hong Kong, Singapore etc than it does with the rest of the UK.

It spends a lot of time competing with those places and a lot of time interacting with them too. Certainly in my business and in the industry I work in you're much more likely to move to New York or Singapore than you are to Sheffield or Birmingham.

I find the general London versus the rest of the UK rhetoric misses that important point.

+1

okgo

Nope don't think I do in Surbiton.

Easy to see why those places are up there though with cost of living in Richmond being comparable to most of the most expensive parts of actual London.

cjcp

MrSweary wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

MrSweary wrote:

Edited out dumb.

Live in St Margarets and work in Mayfair so no. Would be nice to be able to afford a house here but not happening so I'm moving to Beckenham soon (I hope).

Never had Beckenham down as a cheap place to live - but it's a good option. PM me if you want a few tips, iIve been here for 15 yrs.

Compared to St Margarets it is affordable for us. Everything is relative though. Thanks for the offer. I'll be seeking some route advice at some point!

Had a look at Whitton, New Malden or Worcester Park?