Campagnolo v 105???

scazzer

Been looking at Dolan bikes and different set ups and was wandering which is the better or prefered group set between campagnolo and 105 or is it just preference of personnel choice ??

upperoilcan

Woohoo !!! We ain't had one of these for a while.

Good work fella !

Oh n the answer is as like most things......what ever floats your boat.

You have also failed to mention exactly what Campag group.

sloppyschleckonds

I'd go for Super Record over 105

scazzer

Yeah sorry realise alot of questions get repeated had a quick search but can never get exactly what im looking for prob just me haha.

The group is Veloce,reason im asking is ive got a Genises with 105 which is the only road bike ive had and im looking at getting a dolan for summer bike so just wanting to know if there is any difference between them ...

southdownswolf

Both are awful.

Get SRAM ;-)


If you are happy with 105, stick with it. It's a decent groupset, works well and if you are used to Shimano shifting and like it, there is no reason to buy another manufacturers.

duckson

SRAM Rival!

scazzer

southdownswolf wrote:

Both are awful.

Get SRAM ;-)


If you are happy with 105, stick with it. It's a decent groupset, works well and if you are used to Shimano shifting and like it, there is no reason to buy another manufacturers.

Oh now your just confusing me :P so you reckon sram over the others ? which group would you recommend.

southdownswolf

No, I was joking...

If you are happy with 105 on your Genesis and plan to keep it, then I can't see the point of having a different manufacturers groupset on your new bike.

blackpoolkev

Campagnolo spares tend to be more expensive than Shimano equivalents, something to bear in mind if you are a high mileage rider.
However I think my Athena groupset looks and works well and I am now a committed Campag user. (Some people like Fords and some like Mercedes)

southdownswolf

blackpoolkev wrote:

However I think my Athena groupset looks and works well and I am now a committed Campag user. (Some people like Fords and some like Mercedes)

Surely that should be Toyota v Fiat?

DKay

blackpoolkev wrote:

Campagnolo spares tend to be more expensive than Shimano equivalents, something to bear in mind if you are a high mileage rider.

Depends on which bits go wrong. Shimano shifters are generally scrap once any part of them breaks, but you can replace individual parts on Campag ones.

cycleclinic

Campag spare are not more expensive than shimano spares. Veloce is actually lighter than 105 and functionally they are the same - they change gears well for a long time.

Modern campag shifter have no spares, spare only apply to the older one I believe however compare the price of a new pair of veloce shifter (under £100) to the price of some 105 shifters. Use whatever feels most comfortable to you but Veloce is a good groupset it just works.

blackpoolkev

blackpoolkev wrote:

Campagnolo spares tend to be more expensive than Shimano equivalents

I paid £104 for a 12-29 cassette for my Athena replacement,Ultegra 11 speed costs about £45.Campag chain £29,Shimano £20.(Ribble Cycles)

napoleond

But an Ultegra 12-29 doesn't exist and you got a Chorus cassette...

barrie h

To me it all comes down to the shifters
go to your LBS and have a play with the shifters
personally I like Canpag because the brake lever just brakes and nothing else, the two other leavers/buttons well one changes up and the other changes down
But its what ever YOU like and can work with, they all work and do what they are meant to do
Its like every thing the more you pay the better and more refined it gets

Barrie

northpole

What Barrie said.

Both 105 and Veloce are aimed at approximately the same market point. They both traditionally marked the entry point to the quality end of each manufacturer's ranges. To me it's all about the ergos - shifters and brakes. Have a short ride on a campag equipped bike (doesn't have to be Veloce to experience the thumb shift down action/ finger push up shift) and you will quickly tell which feels better to you. Personally, I prefer the Campy shift logic, but it really is an individual preference thing. You can't really go wrong with either.

Peter

Bozman

Campagnolo looks better, Shimano shifts better and SRAM is lighter.

scazzer

Thanks for replies very helpful pointers and didnt realise the campagnolo was a thumb/finger shift which ive never experienced,but main thing is good to know that either set-up is as good as each other so im gonna take a drive to their shop as im not far from them and have a look and hopefully have a go at campy..

Help very much appreciated.

cycleclinic

Veloce cost less to buy than 105 in the first place ad if you are comparing the price of chorus and ultegra components that does not help the OP as he is comparing Veloce and 105. A veloce and 105 cassettes are a similar price. KMC do the 10-93 chain and I use that as it is cheaper. Miche do good 10 speed cassettes for shimano or campagolo and they are cheaper still. Campagnolo cassettes have deep splines so even seperate steel cassette sprockets won't notch an alloy freehub body.

For 11 speed Miche do a campag cassette that shifts as well asa chorus cassette but it costs less.

The thumb shifter is easy to use not like shimano's thumb shifters on lower end groupsets which are a bit sticky and not so easy to use.

adamfo

thecycleclinic wrote:

A veloce and 105 cassettes are a similar price.

Not from were I sit....at the end of the day though the difference is peanuts in monetary terms.

http://www.merlincycles.com/road-bike-cassettes-44199/

blackpoolkev

NapoleonD wrote:

But an Ultegra 12-29 doesn't exist and you got a Chorus cassette...

Shimano 11-28,£45,11-32,£47. Maybe I should have said comparable rather than equivalent.I got a Chorus cassette because an Athena cassette doesn't exist.

thegreatdivide

NapoleonD wrote:

But an Ultegra 12-29 doesn't exist and you got a Chorus cassette...

Indeed. And if you're paying 104 quid for it you need to learn how to use Google.

blackpoolkev

thegreatdivide wrote:

NapoleonD wrote:

But an Ultegra 12-29 doesn't exist and you got a Chorus cassette...

Indeed. And if you're paying 104 quid for it you need to learn how to use Google.

I do and at the time I needed my replacement that was the best price unless you know better.

How Far is too Far

this took 5 seconds to find, get cash back as well.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/campagnolo-chor ... 5360358173

blackpoolkev

blackpoolkev wrote:

at the time I needed my replacement

Okay, I take your point that it may now be available with a nice discount. But it's still a fair bit dearer than a comparable Shimano cassette. I stand by my original point that Campagnolo spares are more expensive than Shimano spares.

gozzy

I'd have held out for a bit instead of blowing 100 quid on a cassette.

blackpoolkev

I decided to replace my worn out cassette with the best priced replacement that I could find. Are you suggesting that I shouldn't maintain my bike?

raymondo60

I'm sure I'm fairly typical in having bikes with components from all major group set manufacturers. My preference is for Shimano; I just like their shifters mainly and have never had any major problems with their kit. I also have Campag Athena on a older steel-framed road bike and that is excellent too. I've had two SRAM set-ups in the past - Rival and Force - which was OK too, but of the three I would choose SRAM last. Some of my 'older' biker mates still play the "Are you a Shimano or a Campag man?" to which many of us would answer "Both!"..."

rolf_f

blackpoolkev wrote:

I decided to replace my worn out cassette with the best priced replacement that I could find. Are you suggesting that I shouldn't maintain my bike?

Given the random ludicrous price reductions that regularly come along, I'd have thought that the sensible thing is to buy spares when you see them cheap rather than leaving it til it's too late. I bought a couple of Veloce cassettes from Halfords last month for £16 each.

If you want to do things the more expensive way then fine but you shouldn't then complain that you are paying too much!

RobinB2

Price of spares apart, I've got Campag Veloce (circa 2004) on my commuting bike which has done sterling service over the years and Ultegra / 1045 on my road bike - both work just fine

However, if you already have another bike with a Shimano groupset, I'd suggest go with that as it makes swapping parts between bikes much easier

gozzy

blackpoolkev wrote:

I decided to replace my worn out cassette with the best priced replacement that I could find. Are you suggesting that I shouldn't maintain my bike?

No you should maintain your bike. Personally though, if I was in the situation that I thought my cassette was worn and the only replacement I could find was £100, I'd run the old one for a bit longer and hunt out a cheaper one, as I've always found cassettes still work when they're worn. However, each to their own, I expect my circumstances are different to yours.