Which wheels should i buy from these options?

sparklehedgehog

Which of these should i buy to replace my Specialized DT Axis 2.0s for my 2014 Roubaix?

Campag Zondas £270
Shimano RS80 C50 £400
Shimano RS81 C24 £405
Fulcrum Racing Quattros £225
Fulcrum Racing 3's £340
Mavic Ksyrium Equipe S £350

Plus as a second question, is a heavier wheel an issue if it's more aero?!

sparklehedgehog

or Shimano RS81 C24 £300

ride_whenever

Rider weight? Intended use

sparklehedgehog

general road use on rides of 10-35 miles a time

rider weight is coming down steadily :P

ride_whenever

More than 80kg???

Reliability or performance key????

sparklehedgehog

more than 80kg and performance is primary

Sandy muir

We had this chat last week, get them bought before the offer is over

Fulcrum Racing Quattros £225.

if you only ride 10 -35 miles at a time then is it prudent upgrade any further. Great wheels at a great price

ride_whenever

Tbh at your weight and budget I'd go for some hope hoops open pro rims. Totally bombproof, light enough but most importantly super stiff.

And spares availability is superb

sparklehedgehog

Sandy muir wrote:

We had this chat last week, get them bought before the offer is over

Fulcrum Racing Quattros £225.

if you only ride 10 -35 miles at a time then is it prudent upgrade any further. Great wheels at a great price

What do you have on your roubaix?

sloppyschleckonds

Zondas

Bobbinogs

Here we go again...

This one is a bit like a parlour game though. Ok, my 2 questions are: Heavier than 90kg? Are the roads very hilly/planned usage hilly?

littledove44

Mavic ksyrium elite. 370€ from 4thebike.de

Or if you are fixed on equipe they are only 289€

Why anyone would buy in the uk when it is so much cheaper from this German website escapes me.

How Far is too Far

1st Fulcrum 3 or 2nd Ksyrium Elite S, would would be my choice.

sparklehedgehog

Bobbinogs wrote:

Here we go again...

This one is a bit like a parlour game though. Ok, my 2 questions are: Heavier than 90kg? Are the roads very hilly/planned usage hilly?

I am over 90kgs but not for long at this rate and not really hilly as only in Lincolnshire

Sandy muir

sparklehedgehog wrote:

Sandy muir wrote:

We had this chat last week, get them bought before the offer is over

Fulcrum Racing Quattros £225.

if you only ride 10 -35 miles at a time then is it prudent upgrade any further. Great wheels at a great price

What do you have on your roubaix?

Fulcrum Racing Quattros £225, great wheels, a balance between functional and bling, at an affordable price

rolf_f

littledove44 wrote:

Why anyone would buy in the uk when it is so much cheaper from this German website escapes me.

1) It's less hassle if something goes wrong
2) Factor in the 'extra discounts' regularly available from the domestic suppliers and the difference often disappears.
3) Some of us care about our delicate economy and would prefer to help our own economy rather than that of others. I know it makes little difference but at least it means you get to complain about the state of things without being a hypocrite.

ugo.santalucia

It doesn't matter... they fall in the same category and they are pretty much all the same thing. Buy the ones you can get chepaer from your local shop, so you don't have to send stuff around and wait for weeks if you need to make a warranty claim.

The "improvement" will be the same... every time you buy something new there is an improvement, I even felt that heavy touring tyres were an improvement over full on race tyres... but the numbers don't lie and the numbers say that since 2005 I ride at pretty much the same speed, regardless of the bike I use (and I've had 5-6) or the upgrades I make. However, a new piece of equipment will make you smile for a while and give you the impression that you are climbing better and faster and that's what matters

tonye_n

If you must go factory wheels, then:

Firstly the Racing 3 and the RS80/81 are at least a step above the others in your list.
That is, in terms of weight and ride quality.

I would add Mavic Ksyrium Elites to the list as these would be similar in price to the above.
Then... my choice would be either the Racing 3 or Ksyrium Elite.
The Shimano's are a bit more sensitive to rider weight than the above two.

imposter2.0

ugo.santalucia wrote:

It doesn't matter... they fall in the same category and they are pretty much all the same thing. Buy the ones you can get chepaer from your local shop, so you don't have to send stuff around and wait for weeks if you need to make a warranty claim.

The "improvement" will be the same... every time you buy something new there is an improvement, I even felt that heavy touring tyres were an improvement over full on race tyres... but the numbers don't lie and the numbers say that since 2005 I ride at pretty much the same speed, regardless of the bike I use (and I've had 5-6) or the upgrades I make. However, a new piece of equipment will make you smile for a while and give you the impression that you are climbing better and faster and that's what matters

Agree with this ^^

Out of that list, I'd still buy the Quattros..

Semantik

sparklehedgehog wrote:

Which of these should i buy to replace my Specialized DT Axis 2.0s for my 2014 Roubaix?

Campag Zondas £270
Shimano RS80 C50 £400
Shimano RS81 C24 £405
Fulcrum Racing Quattros £225
Fulcrum Racing 3's £340
Mavic Ksyrium Equipe S £350

Where are you getting the Zondas from @ £270?
It's only the Campag freehub version I can find for that price.
Presume you must have a Shimano freehub as bike is a Spesh.

DiscoBoy

sparklehedgehog wrote:

Which of these should i buy to replace my Specialized DT Axis 2.0s for my 2014 Roubaix?

Campag Zondas £270
Shimano RS80 C50 £400
Shimano RS81 C24 £405
Fulcrum Racing Quattros £225
Fulcrum Racing 3's £340
Mavic Ksyrium Equipe S £350

Plus as a second question, is a heavier wheel an issue if it's more aero?!

sparklehedgehog wrote:

or Shimano RS81 C24 £300

I assume that you mean RS80 C24 if they're £300?

Either way, RS8* C24 for £300 gets my vote.

Bobbinogs

I'm not sure about the RS80/81s option. The OP is pretty close to the max weight what I think they can cope with flex-wise. I know the OP states that he is over 90kg now but intends to be less...but wheels are bought for the weight now not some ideal weight in the future.

I really rate my RS80s but I am 65kg. I have had the odd comment from fellow riders that they got some flex when climbing and they were around the 80kg mark. Also, RS80's don't have a lot of spokes and I cannot help thinking that a decent bump with a pothole and 100kg of weight (bloke + bike) could end up with the dreaded call home. So, logic says handbuilt wheels with 32 good quality spokes and decent midweight rims...to be rebuilt in a couple of years with some nice Excellight rims and lighter spokes when the OP has lost some weight.

Then again, logic never really applies in these threads...and, as Ugo states, all the wheels listed are much the same. Hence, OP just pick the ones you like the look of since they will be the fastest.

neeb

At those prices, the Zondas, without a doubt. They are basically the same wheels as the Fulcrum 3s. Quattros are not all that much cheaper but a lot heavier.

sparklehedgehog

Semantik wrote:

sparklehedgehog wrote:

Which of these should i buy to replace my Specialized DT Axis 2.0s for my 2014 Roubaix?

Campag Zondas £270
Shimano RS80 C50 £400
Shimano RS81 C24 £405
Fulcrum Racing Quattros £225
Fulcrum Racing 3's £340
Mavic Ksyrium Equipe S £350

Where are you getting the Zondas from @ £270?
It's only the Campag freehub version I can find for that price.
Presume you must have a Shimano freehub as bike is a Spesh.

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/camp ... -prod88911

use code UK10 at the checkout

me-109

30 mile rides and you want to spend £400 on wheels? :?

sparklehedgehog

sorry for not being your standard yet

me-109

My standard is not great (I was good once! ) but neither is my income. Each to their own I guess but I'd be looking to go further before thinking about going faster.

tonye_n

sparklehedgehog wrote:

sorry for not being your standard yet

It's a valid point that me-109 makes.
For that distance it is unlikely that you will get anything near a +VE cost/benefit calculation from spending that amount on a wheelset upgrade.
Also I wager that you can't do even 30miles regularly at the mo

Best to wait until you get close to about +70 kg and then reconsider.

littledove44

tonye_n wrote:

sparklehedgehog wrote:

sorry for not being your standard yet

It's a valid point that me-109 makes.
For that distance it is unlikely that you will get anything near a +VE cost/benefit calculation from spending that amount on a wheelset upgrade.
Also I wager that you can't do even 30miles regularly at the mo

Best to wait until you get close to about +70 kg and then reconsider.

Not everything is a cost benefit calculation. He has a nice bike. Let him buy some nice wheels.

tonye_n

littledove44 wrote:

tonye_n wrote:

sparklehedgehog wrote:

sorry for not being your standard yet

It's a valid point that me-109 makes.
For that distance it is unlikely that you will get anything near a +VE cost/benefit calculation from spending that amount on a wheelset upgrade.
Also I wager that you can't do even 30miles regularly at the mo

Best to wait until you get close to about +70 kg and then reconsider.

Not everything is a cost benefit calculation. He has a nice bike. Let him buy some nice wheels.

Oh yeah sure. It's his dosh after all...
I was just pointing out that it is a valid point, now that it has been raised. Although I probably wouldn't have raised this point myself.

cycleclinic

They are all round, all low spoke count all very similar. Ignore the marketing especialy campagnolo's which use terms like reactivity which is term used in chemitry I would rather any wheel not be reactive.

Buy the ones that are cheapest or the ones you like the look for the most.