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tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 16,056
edited October 2014 in Pro race
Who's going to rack up the most wins this year?
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Who's going to rack up the most wins this year? 80 votes

Cavendish
15% 12 votes
Greipel
6% 5 votes
Kittel
47% 38 votes
Sagan
25% 20 votes
Degenkolb
3% 3 votes
Other
2% 2 votes

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  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 24,525
    Sagan because he's got a US sponsor so will again rack up a load of wins in North America against sod all opposition. (Half of his wins last year were that side of the Atlantic).
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  • ProssPross Posts: 26,040
    RichN95 wrote:
    Sagan because he's got a US sponsor so will again rack up a load of wins in North America against sod all opposition. (Half of his wins last year were that side of the Atlantic).

    This.
  • Bo DukeBo Duke Posts: 1,058
    It helps that he's better than his opponents as well.
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  • ProssPross Posts: 26,040
    Bo Duke wrote:
    It helps that he's better than his opponents as well.

    Define 'better'. He certainly isn't a better sprinter than Cav, Kittel or Greipel. If you mean able to win a larger range of races then I would agree.

    Another reason I think he'll win most is that the others are basically only in the running in bunch sprints and will share the spoils fairly evenly in those situations. If I was asked this question 2 years ago I would have picked Cav as he took such a high percentage of the bunch sprints back then to such an extent there were always massive discussions when he got beaten.
  • Went for Degenkolb. With some carefully targetted riding he might stack up a few wins. I do like an outside punt.
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  • RichN95 wrote:
    Sagan because he's got a US sponsor so will again rack up a load of wins in North America against sod all opposition. (Half of his wins last year were that side of the Atlantic).

    This^

    As for Cav/Kittel/Gripel, I think Cav/Kittel probably have the edge on Gripel ever so slightly, but they all seem bloody close, if the OPQS train can ever get sorted it should be a stunning 3 way battle in sprints this year.
  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 16,056
    Seasonal wins ranking excluding level 2 races.


    Wins/2nd/3rd

    1. GREIPEL André Lotto Belisol 6 - 2 - 0
    2. KWIATKOWSKI Michal Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 4 - 0 - 1
    3. VALVERDE Alejandro Movistar Team 4 - 0 - 0
    4. MODOLO Sacha Lampre - Merida 4 - 0 - 0
    5. DEGENKOLB John Team Giant-Shimano 3 - 3 - 2
    6. KITTEL Marcel Team Giant-Shimano 3 - 0 - 0
    7. CUMMINGS Stephen BMC Racing Team 2 - 2 - 0
    8. BOONEN Tom Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 2 - 1 - 2
    9. PHINNEY Taylor BMC Racing Team 2 - 1 - 1
    10.GERRANS Simon Orica GreenEDGE 2 - 1 - 1


    Cav & Sagan have both opened their account at 1 each

    J Rod, Nibali,Cancellara have yet to see a podium yet - IIRC all the other big guns have something


    Note - Stats from Proc Cycling Stats http://www.procyclingstats.com/rankings ... 3__1__Wins
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  • inseineinseine Posts: 5,781
    Seasonal wins ranking excluding level 2 races.


    Wins/2nd/3rd

    1. GREIPEL André Lotto Belisol 6 - 2 - 0
    2. KWIATKOWSKI Michal Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 4 - 0 - 1
    3. VALVERDE Alejandro Movistar Team 4 - 0 - 0
    4. MODOLO Sacha Lampre - Merida 4 - 0 - 0
    5. DEGENKOLB John Team Giant-Shimano 3 - 3 - 2
    6. KITTEL Marcel Team Giant-Shimano 3 - 0 - 0
    7. CUMMINGS Stephen BMC Racing Team 2 - 2 - 0
    8. BOONEN Tom Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 2 - 1 - 2
    9. PHINNEY Taylor BMC Racing Team 2 - 1 - 1
    10.GERRANS Simon Orica GreenEDGE 2 - 1 - 1


    Cav & Sagan have both opened their account at 1 each

    J Rod, Nibali,Cancellara have yet to see a podium yet - IIRC all the other big guns have something


    Note - Stats from Proc Cycling Stats http://www.procyclingstats.com/rankings ... 3__1__Wins

    Wiggins no longer a 'big gun'? Don't answer that...
  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 16,056
    inseine wrote:
    Wiggins no longer a 'big gun'? Don't answer that...

    Forgot about him.

    Says a lot
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  • No Dan Martin?

    Oh
  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 16,056
    No Dan Martin?

    Oh

    Don't think he's raced yet?

    Not sure he's in the Cancellara, J rod, Nibali bracket.....but that's Rich's department
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  • Told you Degenkolb is worth watching :wink:
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  • Told you Degenkolb is worth watching :wink:


    Yes, but I've fallen into an unpardonable habit of calling him Degenknob in error :(
  • Mad_MalxMad_Malx Posts: 4,158
    Told you Degenkolb is worth watching :wink:


    Yes, but I've fallen into an unpardonable habit of calling him Degenknob in error :(

    I thought it was Dangleknob
  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 16,056
    1. GREIPEL André Lotto Belisol 6 - 2 - 0
    2. VALVERDE Alejandro Movistar Team 5 - 0 - 0
    3. KWIATKOWSKI Michal Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 4 - 0 - 1
    4. MODOLO Sacha Lampre - Merida 4 - 0 - 0
    5. DEGENKOLB John Team Giant-Shimano 3 - 3 - 2
    6. BOONEN Tom Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 3 - 1 - 2
    7. KITTEL Marcel Team Giant-Shimano 3 - 0 - 0
    8. CUMMINGS Stephen BMC Racing Team 2 - 2 - 0
    9. PHINNEY Taylor BMC Racing Team 2 - 1 - 1
    10.GERRANS Simon Orica GreenEDGE 2 - 1 - 1


    Valverde's success in Andalucía moves him into 2nd place behind Greipel
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  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 16,056
    1. GREIPEL André Lotto Belisol 6 - 2 - 1
    2. VALVERDE Alejandro Movistar Team 6 - 0 - 1
    3. KWIATKOWSKI Michal Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 5 - 1 - 1
    4. BETANCUR Carlos AG2R La Mondiale 5 - 1 - 1
    5. DEGENKOLB John Team Giant-Shimano 4 - 5 - 2
    6. BOS Theo Belkin-Pro Cycling Team 4 - 1 - 1
    7. CONTADOR Alberto Tinkoff-Saxo 4 - 1 - 1
    8. MODOLO Sacha Lampre - Merida 4 - 0 - 0
    9. BOONEN Tom Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 3 - 1 - 2
    10.KITTEL Marcel Team Giant-Shimano 3 - 0 - 0


    Biggest climber is Bos cos he bossed Long Cooooooee. Bertie's 2 stage wins and GC move him up 18 places to 7

    Other notables

    11. SAGAN Peter Cannondale 2 - 4 - 2
    12. BOUHANNI Nacer FDJ.fr 2 - 2 - 3
    13. QUINTANA Nairo Movistar Team 2 - 2 - 2
    32. CAVENDISH Mark Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 2 - 0 -

    http://www.procyclingstats.com/rankings ... 8__1__Wins
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  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 16,056
    1. GREIPEL André Lotto Belisol 6 - 2 - 1
    2. VALVERDE Alejandro Movistar Team 6 - 0 - 1
    3. BETANCUR Carlos AG2R La Mondiale 5 - 1 - 1
    4. KWIATKOWSKI Michal Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 5 - 1 - 1
    5. DEGENKOLB John Team Giant-Shimano 4 - 5 - 2
    6. CONTADOR Alberto Tinkoff-Saxo 4 - 2 - 2
    7. BOS Theo Belkin-Pro Cycling Team 4 - 2 - 1
    8. MODOLO Sacha Lampre - Merida 4 - 0 - 0
    9. MEZGEC Luka Team Giant-Shimano 4 - 0 - 0
    10. SAGAN Peter Cannondale 3 - 4 - 2

    Since our last update Contador, Mezgec and Sagan have barged their way into the top ten

    Degenkolb is clearly the rack and stack rider in form.
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  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 16,056
    1. 1 - VALVERDE Alejandro Movistar Team 8 - 4 - 1
    2. 9 7 CAVENDISH Mark Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 8 - 1 - 1
    3. 47 44 DéMARE Arnaud FDJ.fr 7 - 5 - 0
    4. 7 3 BOUHANNI Nacer FDJ.fr 7 - 3 - 5
    5. 2 3 CONTADOR Alberto Tinkoff-Saxo 6 - 4 - 2
    6. 3 3 KWIATKOWSKI Michal Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 6 - 2 - 8
    7. 4 3 GREIPEL André Lotto Belisol 6 - 2 - 1
    8. 14 6 KITTEL Marcel Team Giant-Shimano 6 - 0 - 1
    9. 5 4 MODOLO Sacha Lampre-Merida 6 - 0 - 0
    10. 6 4 DEGENKOLB John Team Giant-Shimano 5 - 9 - 2

    Since our last update our table starts to look a lot more 'sprinty'

    Cavendish's trips to Turkey and California yielded 6 'censored small races' and he slots in at number 2 in the table. Demare jumps 44 places to 3rd with a profitable month at Dunkerque and Picardie

    Sagan hovers just outside the top ten with 5 wins (5-5-4)

    How much longer will Valverde and Contador stay in our table?

    http://www.procyclingstats.com/rankings ... 8__1__Wins
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  • AnonymousAnonymous Posts: 79,692
    Any updates?
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 24,525
    Greipel 13
    Kittel 11
    Other 11 (Kristoff)
    Cavendish 9
    Sagan 7
    Degenkolb 5
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  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 16,056
    1. 1 - GREIPEL André Lotto Belisol 12 - 3 - 2
    2. 5 3 KRISTOFF Alexander Team Katusha 11 - 3 - 3
    3. 9 6 KITTEL Marcel Team Giant-Shimano 11 - 0 - 1
    4. 4 - CAVENDISH Mark Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 9 - 1 - 1
    5. 2 3 VALVERDE Alejandro Movistar Team 8 - 6 - 3
    6. 3 3 DéMARE Arnaud FDJ.fr 8 - 5 - 2
    7. 6 1 BOUHANNI Nacer FDJ.fr 8 - 3 - 6
    8. 8 - MARTIN Tony Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 8 - 1 - 1
    9. 10 1 MODOLO Sacha Lampre-Merida 7 - 0 - 0
    10. 12 2 SAGAN Peter Cannondale 6 - 10 - 6

    http://www.procyclingstats.com/rankings ... 9__1__Wins
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  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 16,056
    Nearly there

    1. 1 - KRISTOFF Alexander Team Katusha 14 - 4 - 3
    2. 2 - GREIPEL André Lotto Belisol 14 - 3 - 2
    3. 5 2 KITTEL Marcel Team Giant-Shimano 13 - 0 - 1
    4. 3 1 BOUHANNI Nacer FDJ.fr 11 - 4 - 6
    5. 4 1 CAVENDISH Mark Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 11 - 2 - 3
    6. 6 - VALVERDE Alejandro Movistar Team 10 - 8 - 7
    7. 7 - DéMARE Arnaud FDJ.fr 10 - 5 - 3
    8. 9 1 DEGENKOLB John Team Giant-Shimano 9 - 13 - 3
    9. 14 5 CONTADOR Alberto Tinkoff-Saxo 9 - 8 - 3
    10. 8 2 MARTIN Tony Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 9 - 2 - 1


    Sagan is in 15th with a 6-10-7 record - no one has more 2nd and 3rd place finishes (combined).
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  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 24,525
    CQ Ranking has it slightly different:

    15 Greipel
    14 Kristoff
    13 Kittel
    11 Demare, Bohanni, Valverde, Cavendish, Cort Nielsen
    10 Martin
    .....
    7 Sagan (in joint 14th place)

    Edit: In fact this is what PCS says too
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  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 16,056
    RichN95 wrote:
    Edit: In fact this is what PCS says too

    I've been using >.1 races

    http://www.procyclingstats.com/rankings ... 0__1__Wins
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  • joelsimjoelsim Posts: 7,552
    Great season for Kristoff. Hard to believe that Greipel is top, under the radar and not done it in the big races.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 24,525
    RichN95 wrote:
    Edit: In fact this is what PCS says too

    I've been using >.1 races

    http://www.procyclingstats.com/rankings ... 0__1__Wins
    I pushed the 'Individual' button. That counts National Champs so tallies with CQ.
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