The rack 'em and stack 'em thread

tailwindhome
tailwindhome Posts: 18,924
edited October 2014 in Pro race
Who's going to rack up the most wins this year?
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!

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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,147
    Sagan because he's got a US sponsor so will again rack up a load of wins in North America against sod all opposition. (Half of his wins last year were that side of the Atlantic).
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,441
    RichN95 wrote:
    Sagan because he's got a US sponsor so will again rack up a load of wins in North America against sod all opposition. (Half of his wins last year were that side of the Atlantic).

    This.
  • Bo Duke
    Bo Duke Posts: 1,058
    It helps that he's better than his opponents as well.
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  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    Kittel
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,441
    Bo Duke wrote:
    It helps that he's better than his opponents as well.

    Define 'better'. He certainly isn't a better sprinter than Cav, Kittel or Greipel. If you mean able to win a larger range of races then I would agree.

    Another reason I think he'll win most is that the others are basically only in the running in bunch sprints and will share the spoils fairly evenly in those situations. If I was asked this question 2 years ago I would have picked Cav as he took such a high percentage of the bunch sprints back then to such an extent there were always massive discussions when he got beaten.
  • BelgianBeerGeek
    BelgianBeerGeek Posts: 5,226
    Went for Degenkolb. With some carefully targetted riding he might stack up a few wins. I do like an outside punt.
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  • outcastjack
    outcastjack Posts: 237
    RichN95 wrote:
    Sagan because he's got a US sponsor so will again rack up a load of wins in North America against sod all opposition. (Half of his wins last year were that side of the Atlantic).

    This^

    As for Cav/Kittel/Gripel, I think Cav/Kittel probably have the edge on Gripel ever so slightly, but they all seem bloody close, if the OPQS train can ever get sorted it should be a stunning 3 way battle in sprints this year.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,924
    Seasonal wins ranking excluding level 2 races.


    Wins/2nd/3rd

    1. GREIPEL André Lotto Belisol 6 - 2 - 0
    2. KWIATKOWSKI Michal Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 4 - 0 - 1
    3. VALVERDE Alejandro Movistar Team 4 - 0 - 0
    4. MODOLO Sacha Lampre - Merida 4 - 0 - 0
    5. DEGENKOLB John Team Giant-Shimano 3 - 3 - 2
    6. KITTEL Marcel Team Giant-Shimano 3 - 0 - 0
    7. CUMMINGS Stephen BMC Racing Team 2 - 2 - 0
    8. BOONEN Tom Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 2 - 1 - 2
    9. PHINNEY Taylor BMC Racing Team 2 - 1 - 1
    10.GERRANS Simon Orica GreenEDGE 2 - 1 - 1


    Cav & Sagan have both opened their account at 1 each

    J Rod, Nibali,Cancellara have yet to see a podium yet - IIRC all the other big guns have something


    Note - Stats from Proc Cycling Stats http://www.procyclingstats.com/rankings ... 3__1__Wins
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,786
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Seasonal wins ranking excluding level 2 races.


    Wins/2nd/3rd

    1. GREIPEL André Lotto Belisol 6 - 2 - 0
    2. KWIATKOWSKI Michal Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 4 - 0 - 1
    3. VALVERDE Alejandro Movistar Team 4 - 0 - 0
    4. MODOLO Sacha Lampre - Merida 4 - 0 - 0
    5. DEGENKOLB John Team Giant-Shimano 3 - 3 - 2
    6. KITTEL Marcel Team Giant-Shimano 3 - 0 - 0
    7. CUMMINGS Stephen BMC Racing Team 2 - 2 - 0
    8. BOONEN Tom Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 2 - 1 - 2
    9. PHINNEY Taylor BMC Racing Team 2 - 1 - 1
    10.GERRANS Simon Orica GreenEDGE 2 - 1 - 1


    Cav & Sagan have both opened their account at 1 each

    J Rod, Nibali,Cancellara have yet to see a podium yet - IIRC all the other big guns have something


    Note - Stats from Proc Cycling Stats http://www.procyclingstats.com/rankings ... 3__1__Wins

    Wiggins no longer a 'big gun'? Don't answer that...
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,924
    inseine wrote:
    Wiggins no longer a 'big gun'? Don't answer that...

    Forgot about him.

    Says a lot
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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    No Dan Martin?

    Oh
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,924
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    No Dan Martin?

    Oh

    Don't think he's raced yet?

    Not sure he's in the Cancellara, J rod, Nibali bracket.....but that's Rich's department
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  • BelgianBeerGeek
    BelgianBeerGeek Posts: 5,226
    Told you Degenkolb is worth watching :wink:
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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    BelgianBeerGeek wrote:
    Told you Degenkolb is worth watching :wink:


    Yes, but I've fallen into an unpardonable habit of calling him Degenknob in error :(
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,001
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    BelgianBeerGeek wrote:
    Told you Degenkolb is worth watching :wink:


    Yes, but I've fallen into an unpardonable habit of calling him Degenknob in error :(

    I thought it was Dangleknob
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,924
    1. GREIPEL André Lotto Belisol 6 - 2 - 0
    2. VALVERDE Alejandro Movistar Team 5 - 0 - 0
    3. KWIATKOWSKI Michal Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 4 - 0 - 1
    4. MODOLO Sacha Lampre - Merida 4 - 0 - 0
    5. DEGENKOLB John Team Giant-Shimano 3 - 3 - 2
    6. BOONEN Tom Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 3 - 1 - 2
    7. KITTEL Marcel Team Giant-Shimano 3 - 0 - 0
    8. CUMMINGS Stephen BMC Racing Team 2 - 2 - 0
    9. PHINNEY Taylor BMC Racing Team 2 - 1 - 1
    10.GERRANS Simon Orica GreenEDGE 2 - 1 - 1


    Valverde's success in Andalucía moves him into 2nd place behind Greipel
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,924
    1. GREIPEL André Lotto Belisol 6 - 2 - 1
    2. VALVERDE Alejandro Movistar Team 6 - 0 - 1
    3. KWIATKOWSKI Michal Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 5 - 1 - 1
    4. BETANCUR Carlos AG2R La Mondiale 5 - 1 - 1
    5. DEGENKOLB John Team Giant-Shimano 4 - 5 - 2
    6. BOS Theo Belkin-Pro Cycling Team 4 - 1 - 1
    7. CONTADOR Alberto Tinkoff-Saxo 4 - 1 - 1
    8. MODOLO Sacha Lampre - Merida 4 - 0 - 0
    9. BOONEN Tom Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 3 - 1 - 2
    10.KITTEL Marcel Team Giant-Shimano 3 - 0 - 0


    Biggest climber is Bos cos he bossed Long Cooooooee. Bertie's 2 stage wins and GC move him up 18 places to 7

    Other notables

    11. SAGAN Peter Cannondale 2 - 4 - 2
    12. BOUHANNI Nacer FDJ.fr 2 - 2 - 3
    13. QUINTANA Nairo Movistar Team 2 - 2 - 2
    32. CAVENDISH Mark Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 2 - 0 -

    http://www.procyclingstats.com/rankings ... 8__1__Wins
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,924
    1. GREIPEL André Lotto Belisol 6 - 2 - 1
    2. VALVERDE Alejandro Movistar Team 6 - 0 - 1
    3. BETANCUR Carlos AG2R La Mondiale 5 - 1 - 1
    4. KWIATKOWSKI Michal Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 5 - 1 - 1
    5. DEGENKOLB John Team Giant-Shimano 4 - 5 - 2
    6. CONTADOR Alberto Tinkoff-Saxo 4 - 2 - 2
    7. BOS Theo Belkin-Pro Cycling Team 4 - 2 - 1
    8. MODOLO Sacha Lampre - Merida 4 - 0 - 0
    9. MEZGEC Luka Team Giant-Shimano 4 - 0 - 0
    10. SAGAN Peter Cannondale 3 - 4 - 2

    Since our last update Contador, Mezgec and Sagan have barged their way into the top ten

    Degenkolb is clearly the rack and stack rider in form.
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,924
    1. 1 - VALVERDE Alejandro Movistar Team 8 - 4 - 1
    2. 9 7 CAVENDISH Mark Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 8 - 1 - 1
    3. 47 44 DéMARE Arnaud FDJ.fr 7 - 5 - 0
    4. 7 3 BOUHANNI Nacer FDJ.fr 7 - 3 - 5
    5. 2 3 CONTADOR Alberto Tinkoff-Saxo 6 - 4 - 2
    6. 3 3 KWIATKOWSKI Michal Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 6 - 2 - 8
    7. 4 3 GREIPEL André Lotto Belisol 6 - 2 - 1
    8. 14 6 KITTEL Marcel Team Giant-Shimano 6 - 0 - 1
    9. 5 4 MODOLO Sacha Lampre-Merida 6 - 0 - 0
    10. 6 4 DEGENKOLB John Team Giant-Shimano 5 - 9 - 2

    Since our last update our table starts to look a lot more 'sprinty'

    Cavendish's trips to Turkey and California yielded 6 'shit small races' and he slots in at number 2 in the table. Demare jumps 44 places to 3rd with a profitable month at Dunkerque and Picardie

    Sagan hovers just outside the top ten with 5 wins (5-5-4)

    How much longer will Valverde and Contador stay in our table?

    http://www.procyclingstats.com/rankings ... 8__1__Wins
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Any updates?
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,147
    Greipel 13
    Kittel 11
    Other 11 (Kristoff)
    Cavendish 9
    Sagan 7
    Degenkolb 5
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,924
    1. 1 - GREIPEL André Lotto Belisol 12 - 3 - 2
    2. 5 3 KRISTOFF Alexander Team Katusha 11 - 3 - 3
    3. 9 6 KITTEL Marcel Team Giant-Shimano 11 - 0 - 1
    4. 4 - CAVENDISH Mark Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 9 - 1 - 1
    5. 2 3 VALVERDE Alejandro Movistar Team 8 - 6 - 3
    6. 3 3 DéMARE Arnaud FDJ.fr 8 - 5 - 2
    7. 6 1 BOUHANNI Nacer FDJ.fr 8 - 3 - 6
    8. 8 - MARTIN Tony Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 8 - 1 - 1
    9. 10 1 MODOLO Sacha Lampre-Merida 7 - 0 - 0
    10. 12 2 SAGAN Peter Cannondale 6 - 10 - 6

    http://www.procyclingstats.com/rankings ... 9__1__Wins
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,924
    Nearly there

    1. 1 - KRISTOFF Alexander Team Katusha 14 - 4 - 3
    2. 2 - GREIPEL André Lotto Belisol 14 - 3 - 2
    3. 5 2 KITTEL Marcel Team Giant-Shimano 13 - 0 - 1
    4. 3 1 BOUHANNI Nacer FDJ.fr 11 - 4 - 6
    5. 4 1 CAVENDISH Mark Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 11 - 2 - 3
    6. 6 - VALVERDE Alejandro Movistar Team 10 - 8 - 7
    7. 7 - DéMARE Arnaud FDJ.fr 10 - 5 - 3
    8. 9 1 DEGENKOLB John Team Giant-Shimano 9 - 13 - 3
    9. 14 5 CONTADOR Alberto Tinkoff-Saxo 9 - 8 - 3
    10. 8 2 MARTIN Tony Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 9 - 2 - 1


    Sagan is in 15th with a 6-10-7 record - no one has more 2nd and 3rd place finishes (combined).
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,147
    CQ Ranking has it slightly different:

    15 Greipel
    14 Kristoff
    13 Kittel
    11 Demare, Bohanni, Valverde, Cavendish, Cort Nielsen
    10 Martin
    .....
    7 Sagan (in joint 14th place)

    Edit: In fact this is what PCS says too
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,924
    RichN95 wrote:
    Edit: In fact this is what PCS says too

    I've been using >.1 races

    http://www.procyclingstats.com/rankings ... 0__1__Wins
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    Great season for Kristoff. Hard to believe that Greipel is top, under the radar and not done it in the big races.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,147
    TailWindHome wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Edit: In fact this is what PCS says too

    I've been using >.1 races

    http://www.procyclingstats.com/rankings ... 0__1__Wins
    I pushed the 'Individual' button. That counts National Champs so tallies with CQ.
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