Carbon clinchers a good idea?
Bmf21uk
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After some new wheels to replace my fulcrum 5's, and have been looking at wheelsmith a c50's or race 24's
Don't go out when it's horrible, so have been favouring the carbon as there is no real weight penalty over the 24's plus they look cool! (Waits for abuse
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Surrey hills is my patch and I weigh 92kg, so am limited on rim choice, such as the alloy brake track carbons which are under my weight.
Any recommendations?
Don't go out when it's horrible, so have been favouring the carbon as there is no real weight penalty over the 24's plus they look cool! (Waits for abuse
)Surrey hills is my patch and I weigh 92kg, so am limited on rim choice, such as the alloy brake track carbons which are under my weight.
Any recommendations?
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They won't stop as well in the wet, but if you really want a set then I can't see an issue as long as they aren't under-built.
28spoke rear 20 or 24 front, Derek has had people over 100kg on them so should be ok.
And worst case to replace there as cheap as!
Also, they were cool 5 years ago... now every other bike I see lapping in Richmond Park has carbon rims of some sort, they are mainstream and they look frankly boring, especially those full black ones. Only the labels break the monotony of these black surfaces... HED, ENVE and Cosmic have the coolest logos in my view and it's all down to the logos, there is no other reason for a pair of carbon clinchers.
8 grams of stickers? That heavy?
Of course... because you spend a lot of money to have a bag of drawbacks, like less reliable braking, the need for special pads, which you then have to change when you reverse to your other wheels... that leaves the aerodynamics, which is a minefield of yay and nayers and realistically won't make you fast if you are not and the look, which is cack as discussed above.
I have a set of 50 mm black carbon wheels looking at me right now, they look dreadful.
Have a look at the HED JET series, it seems to me they have the fewer drawbacks and they look decent and not too mainstream. The price is also reasonable
http://www.hedwheels.com/proddetail.asp?prod=JET57HOPE
Some pretty fast people use them, so you've got something to talk about
I agree those HEDs look cack!
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I quite like the look of deep carbon rims yes they are everywhere becuase alot of people like them. bike are everywhere because alot of people like them that does not stop us from riding does it.
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So you're saying that people should only have deep carbon rims on their bikes if they can climb like a Froome, sprint like Cav or TT like Tony Martin?
What next, you can't ride a Dogma unless you put out an average of over 300W? You can't buy a Ferrari unless you have the skills of Fernando Alonso?
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I didn't say you couldn't do anything. You can do what you want. Even if it looks naff.
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What backlash? Just because loads of people own them doesn't make them any good.
Not sure what all the fuss is about - I reckon if people like alloy rims, that's fine; if others like carbon rims, that's equally fine. They don't have to make you go any faster - the main thing is what ever makes people tick and encourages them to get outdoors and enjoy a bit of exercise.
Peter
My point is the risks associated with these outweigh the benefits by a long mile and in the end, digging, people only buy them because they think they look good. So, nothing wrong in buying them, but if you ask for advice whether to buy them or not, my advice is not... is that a problem?
Since when summers are dry in the UK?
Let's say that it's your lucky day and your 50 mm clinchers give you an aerodynamic advantage worth 5-10 Watts on top of the 300 or so your legs are pumping whilst pushing at 23 mph on a flat road with no wind (random numbers, no need to check with maths please)... you might end up going at nearly 24 mph!
But here is the thing... the same money could be invested in a serious coaching program... and a good coach should be able to squeeze half a watt per Kg of body weight out of you, unless you are already at your top. So that's 35-50 Watts, which interestingly will come in handy also uphill, not just on the flat.
That leaves aero wheels as a cosmetic upgrade. Personally I find upgrading myself more rewarding than upgrading the bike.
But if you want those 5-10 Watts at all costs, why not getting an alloy rim with carbon fairings like the HED I mentioned earlier? No drawbacks there
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I take it you didn't choose your bike on looks alone then?
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Mine are all self builds apart from the MTB (which was just muy barro at the time for a bike with hydraulic discs).
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My comments were primarily in response to the comment immediately preceding mine.
Your advice is not a problem to me, nor did I comment on it.
I have a set of R-Sys wheels, the carbon spokes on those haven't yet exploded, but I suppose there is a risk they may do so. I have a set of C40s whose carbon braking surface Mavic claim provides good braking and others appear to agree (albeit there are plenty other negative things said of them!). I also have a pair of wheels with 32 spoked Archtype rims - lightweight/ aero they ain't! They are all different. I have a curiosity for different designs. I didn't buy them to go faster up or down a hill. I'm only in it for the exercise, not racing the clock. I'm not alone.
Apologies to the OP if this distraction tugging discussion off topic.
Peter
I was referring to the tyres exploding, which is fairly common if carbon clincher rims are used inappropriately. Your spokes won't explode.... they might pop, but they won't explode...
Peter
that story is a bit dodgy to be honest... wheels don't just collapse unless the hub cracks suddenly (Zipp style)