Reverb Dropper...

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  • rockmonkeysc
    rockmonkeysc Posts: 14,774
    http://www.cawt.co.uk

    This is all google comes up with. It's a worthwhile cause but I hardly think it's relevant here.
  • 97th choice
    97th choice Posts: 2,222
    cant argue with that
    Too-ra-loo-ra, too-ra-loo-rye, aye

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  • 97th choice
    97th choice Posts: 2,222
    Soggz wrote:
    Like i said,my forks work fine,im not that heavy,so they dont need to work too hard...

    At risk of labouring the point already made and getting on your nerves, those forks don't work fine, in fact they will most likely hinder your enjoyment of mountain biking. You just don't know it as you don't have a comparison.
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  • Twelly
    Twelly Posts: 1,437
    Soggz wrote:
    Like i said,my forks work fine,im not that heavy,so they dont need to work too hard...

    At risk of labouring the point already made and getting on your nerves, those forks don't work fine, in fact they will most likely hinder your enjoyment of mountain biking. You just don't know it as you don't have a comparison.

    I don't know about you, but I certainly don't think a good fork is essential to 'enjoy mountain biking'. I spent 4 years riding an old, basic bike with a knackered RS Judy which was only giving about half of its bouncy, uncontrolled, noodly travel up but I had a great time every weekend..

    Totally agree if you are planning on dropping money on your bike, a fork is a more worthwhile upgrade than a dropper though. A dropper is a nice touch but I only bought mine when I had got my bike where I wanted in terms of weight, comfort and performance and my bonus was burning a hole.

    But then its your bike so bolt whatever you like to it!
  • 97th choice
    97th choice Posts: 2,222
    I didn't say a good fork was essential to enjoying mountain biking, I was suggesting that a poor fork could hinder your enjoyment. Of course you could make that argument over FS vs HT and just about every other 'upgrade' out there!!
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  • Twelly
    Twelly Posts: 1,437
    I didn't say a good fork was essential to enjoying mountain biking, I was suggesting that a poor fork could hinder your enjoyment. Of course you could make that argument over FS vs HT and just about every other 'upgrade' out there!!

    True that!
  • Kowalski675
    Kowalski675 Posts: 4,412
    cant argue with that

    Correct.
  • Kowalski675
    Kowalski675 Posts: 4,412
    I didn't say a good fork was essential to enjoying mountain biking, I was suggesting that a poor fork could hinder your enjoyment.

    CAWT either. My Kraken (with Suntour XCR fork) was fine on bridleways etc, but when I took it to Stainburn and Gisburn it was seriously hard work and much less fun - harder to enjoy yourself when you're just hanging on, trying to point it in vaguely the right direction and getting your wrists pummelled into submission.
  • Soggz
    Soggz Posts: 221
    I started mountain biking on an 18 speed raleigh mustang over 25 years ago.(well...to be honest,i started 'mountain biking' as its called now at the age of 12,with a 5 speed racer with 'cow horn' extra wide handle bars...only 'cos my chopper was too heavy.)It had a rigid forks,and i actually found that i was in front of the people on their muddy fox's with 'top of the range' judys.lol
    I guess it just depends on how much a person enjoys the sport as opposed to how much that a person can spend on it.
    When i go cycling,be it road or mountain bike,i put my 'all' into it.
    Its only in the last 4 years that i have actually had front suspension!
    (still kicking some peoples arses with their full sus bikes,i should know better at 46.) 8)
  • Angus Young
    Angus Young Posts: 3,063
    Shouldn't the fact that people are universally recommending forks before dropper tell you something?
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  • Cookeh
    Cookeh Posts: 351
    Shouldn't the fact that people are universally recommending forks before dropper tell you something?

    He's not asking about new suspension, he's asking about a dropper.

    As he's said several times in the thread, he's happy with his forks, regardless of others opinions of where he should spend his money. Key point there is "his money" - he can spend it as he wants and its not for anyone else to tell he where to spend it. The man wants a dropper, discuss droppers.

    OP, based on punaktrons testimony, and the price, I'd be looking at this - save the rest of the money for booze! :D
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  • Soggz
    Soggz Posts: 221
    lol cookeh, I have a apple press so make my own cider,last autumn i made 18 gallons of wonderful scrumpy,so booze isnt an issue!.
    :lol::lol::lol:
    With rigid forks,i found that it was just a matter of 'shifting weight around' which i still find ok to do,and as my suntour forks arnt exactly smooth and bouncy like a pair of gold coloured foxes(other forks are available),i find that i can ride UP hills quicker with them,as they are more rigid!...but going DOWN more 'technical' hills would just be a bit easier to do without a seat in the way,hence the post about the 'post' so to speak...;).
    (married,with 3 children is an issue for spending money on such luxury items is an issue for me by the way.I know,I know...its me own fault!,but i have been riding a bike since i was 5,a gold Raleigh Chico,so bikes are in my blood...lol).
  • Angus Young
    Angus Young Posts: 3,063
    edited February 2014
    Cookeh wrote:
    Shouldn't the fact that people are universally recommending forks before dropper tell you something?

    He's not asking about new suspension, he's asking about a dropper.

    As he's said several times in the thread, he's happy with his forks, regardless of others opinions of where he should spend his money. Key point there is "his money" - he can spend it as he wants and its not for anyone else to tell he where to spend it. The man wants a dropper, discuss droppers.

    No-one is telling him where to spend his money. They're just offering sound advice. Not to point out where limited funds might be better spent would be bad advice.
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  • Soggz
    Soggz Posts: 221
    Angus,to be honest...a 'decent' set of forks is going to be probably twice as much money if not more than a half decent dropper...and im not exactly 'sponsored' to do mountain biking , so i wouldnt bother with all the posh expensive kit anyway...
    Pure 'Mint Sauce' theory..."Im just out riding my bike"...
  • Lewis A
    Lewis A Posts: 767
    You can get a good air fork for around £200 in sales (ongoing)
    Cube Analog 2012 with various upgrades.
  • fizik
    fizik Posts: 247
    Or get a really good second hand set for similar money, provided they have been looked after its nothing to be frightened of.
  • Kowalski675
    Kowalski675 Posts: 4,412
    Lewis A wrote:
    You can get a good air fork for around £200 in sales (ongoing)

    I just bought a good air fork (brand new) for £121.50.
  • Kowalski675
    Kowalski675 Posts: 4,412
    Cookeh wrote:
    Shouldn't the fact that people are universally recommending forks before dropper tell you something?

    He's not asking about new suspension, he's asking about a dropper.

    As he's said several times in the thread, he's happy with his forks, regardless of others opinions of where he should spend his money. Key point there is "his money" - he can spend it as he wants and its not for anyone else to tell he where to spend it. The man wants a dropper, discuss droppers.

    No-one is telling him where to spend his money. They're just offering sound advice. Not to point out where limited funds might be better spent would be bad advice.

    CAWT - nobody's being offensive or telling him what he has to do, just trying to help him spend his money where it would give more benefit.
  • Cookeh
    Cookeh Posts: 351
    Cookeh wrote:
    Shouldn't the fact that people are universally recommending forks before dropper tell you something?

    He's not asking about new suspension, he's asking about a dropper.

    As he's said several times in the thread, he's happy with his forks, regardless of others opinions of where he should spend his money. Key point there is "his money" - he can spend it as he wants and its not for anyone else to tell he where to spend it. The man wants a dropper, discuss droppers.

    No-one is telling him where to spend his money. They're just offering sound advice. Not to point out where limited funds might be better spent would be bad advice.

    CAWT - nobody's being offensive or telling him what he has to do, just trying to help him spend his money where it would give more benefit.

    My point was merely that there was no sense belittling the point. Soggz acknowledged that numerous others thought a fork would be a better option but still stated that he would prefer the dropper. That should have been the end of the debate on forks (apparently not) and henceforth we should have been offering advice on a dropper as opposed to ignoring the initial question. Whatever.
  • paul.skibum
    paul.skibum Posts: 4,068
    I bought one of these: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TMARS-419D-PRO-REMOTE-ADJUSTABLE-27-2mm-DROPPER-SEATPOST-3-HEIGHTS-/281151027785?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item4175e83a49

    27.2mm and functional - nothing like as good as a reverb but it works, has two stop points - mid and low on the way down, takes a bit of planning to use and you have to do things in a sequence but the timing gets patterned pretty easily, not too heavy but was WAY cheaper when I bought one - not sure its worth the 170 odd its currently being sold at.
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  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    Under £50 if you're prepared to wait

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161202841982? ... 1438.l2649

    Or possibly a better one for £70ish

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281205987507? ... 1438.l2649
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  • Soggz
    Soggz Posts: 221
    Thanx cooldad,anyone used the 70 quid one yet? Looks pretty good,im guessing...
  • Regarding a Dropper when I demo'd my current bike for about an hour I wasn't that fussed that it had a Reverb as standard fit to the point where I had even thought I would ditch it once I'd made the purchase and taken delivery.

    However my first ride out on it totally changed my mind and I now wouldn't do without it for the type of riding and terrain that's on my doorstep - technical singletrack and man made bike trails that tend to have a lot of requent transitions between up and down.

    If I were riding more open trails more fequently like South Downs, Ridgeway, etc then there isn't really the need for such a thing.

    I find it's one of pieces of kit that you can quite happily do without but once you've used on for a bit you'd be hard pressed to go back.
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  • ilovedirt
    ilovedirt Posts: 5,798
    Soggz wrote:
    Angus,to be honest...a 'decent' set of forks is going to be probably twice as much money if not more than a half decent dropper...and im not exactly 'sponsored' to do mountain biking , so i wouldnt bother with all the posh expensive kit anyway...
    Pure 'Mint Sauce' theory..."Im just out riding my bike"...
    Reverb is about £300, no? I got mine for £200 mega cheap, never seen them that cheap since.
    On that basis, you have about £2-300 to spend? You can get a more than decent fork for that sort of money - something nice and light and with lockout, to make those hills even easier than they are now! Plus, you can open them up for when you ride down the hills. Et voila, problem solved.

    If you really wanted to, I'm sure you could find a decent fork for around £200 and get a cheapy dropper for about £50-£70 as some other have mentioned. I didn't get a dropper until only a few months ago - really good bit of kit to have, though It came behind pretty much every other part of the bike that needed upgrading first, and rightly so. It's a novelty item, really.

    Whereas, if you just buy a dropper, you're making your bike even heavier (it won't be light with those suntour forks to begin with). Buy a decent fork, drop some weight from your bike (I saw a thread yesterday where somebody upgraded their suntour XCM fork for a suntour epicon, dropped around 1kg in weight and at a cost of around £130? for a fairly well performing fork for the money), I guarantee it'll be much more pleasant to ride.
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  • Kowalski675
    Kowalski675 Posts: 4,412
    ilovedirt wrote:
    Soggz wrote:
    Angus,to be honest...a 'decent' set of forks is going to be probably twice as much money if not more than a half decent dropper...and im not exactly 'sponsored' to do mountain biking , so i wouldnt bother with all the posh expensive kit anyway...
    Pure 'Mint Sauce' theory..."Im just out riding my bike"...
    Reverb is about £300, no? I got mine for £200 mega cheap, never seen them that cheap since.

    You can't have been looking very hard. On One were selling em at £150 just before Christmas, for example. Even my LBS has them for £200 over the counter.
  • Soggz
    Soggz Posts: 221
    Either way...a reverb wont fit a 27.2 frame,as they dont make 'em.and i aint gonna buy a new frame anytime soon.
  • Soggz
    Soggz Posts: 221
    Ok...just ordered the satori.i'll let you know what i think when i get it...
  • Soggz
    Soggz Posts: 221
    Dropper_zpsb1f94a45.jpg...Up
  • Soggz
    Soggz Posts: 221
    Dropper1_zpsf8881d90.jpg...Down
  • Soggz
    Soggz Posts: 221
    Dropper3_zps507868b4.jpg...Had to lose 1/2" pf frame,as i am a short arse when seat in full up position...I imagine it will add another dimension to riding,looking forward to it...just waiting for it to stop raining a bit...;)