Paris Nice 2014

inseine
inseine Posts: 5,788
edited February 2014 in Pro race
Route not officially comfirmed but it's going to be this, apparently.
Still a couple of holes in the planning and I'm not sure if the last day is the TT or not.
Most importantly, the start is 10k from my place, and there's always a big ride (kinda sportive) the day before.


Sunday 9 March Mantes la Jolie to Mantes la Jolie
Monday 10 March Rambouillet to Saint-George sur Bauche
Tuesday 11 March Toucy to circuit de Magny Cours
Wednesday 12 March Nevers to Belleville sur Saône
Thursday 13 March Crèche sur Saône to Rive de Gier
Friday 14 March ? to Fayence
Saturday 15 March ? to Nice
Sunday 16 March Nice to Col d’éze
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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    oooh, I have a soft spot for P-N. Every year I say I'm going to go to Nice for the final weekend. Maybe this year I'll shift my backside and do it.

    Safe to assume the final day is a TT, I'd have thought....
  • specialgueststar
    specialgueststar Posts: 3,418
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    oooh, I have a soft spot for P-N. Every year I say I'm going to go to Nice for the final weekend. Maybe this year I'll shift my backside and do it.

    Safe to assume the final day is a TT, I'd have thought....

    I always say that as well...!! Last year I was in Florence so saw Tirreno instead!
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    oooh, I have a soft spot for P-N. Every year I say I'm going to go to Nice for the final weekend. Maybe this year I'll shift my backside and do it.

    Safe to assume the final day is a TT, I'd have thought....

    They seem to call the TT, Nice-Col d'èze. It's not clear whether the first stage is a prologue or a looped road stage. I'm hoping for the later, purely for selfish reasons. I'd rather see the TT than a road stage, in the flesh.
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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    inseine wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    oooh, I have a soft spot for P-N. Every year I say I'm going to go to Nice for the final weekend. Maybe this year I'll shift my backside and do it.

    Safe to assume the final day is a TT, I'd have thought....

    They seem to call the TT, Nice-Col d'èze. It's not clear whether the first stage is a prologue or a looped road stage. I'm hoping for the later, purely for selfish reasons. I'd rather see the TT than a road stage, in the flesh.


    Yeah, I like a mountain TT, I do
  • MartinGT
    MartinGT Posts: 475
    Love this race.

    Who was found under a car a couple of season's back when they came off and went under it? An Astana rider I am thinking, but for some reason I can remember Haussler too.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    MartinGT wrote:
    Love this race.

    Who was found under a car a couple of season's back when they came off and went under it? An Astana rider I am thinking, but for some reason I can remember Haussler too.

    I think it was Robert Kiserlovski.
    Went under a lorry.
    Very wet day won by Rémy Di Gregorio?
    Stage 7, 2011.

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  • MartinGT
    MartinGT Posts: 475
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    MartinGT wrote:
    Love this race.

    Who was found under a car a couple of season's back when they came off and went under it? An Astana rider I am thinking, but for some reason I can remember Haussler too.

    I think it was Robert Kiserlovski.
    Went under a lorry.
    Very wet day won by Rémy Di Gregorio?
    Stage 7, 2011.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlDrThARNy4

    Thats the one :)
  • megateuf
    megateuf Posts: 5
    inseine wrote:
    Route not officially comfirmed but it's going to be this, apparently.
    Still a couple of holes in the planning and I'm not sure if the last day is the TT or not.
    Most importantly, the start is 10k from my place, and there's always a big ride (kinda sportive) the day before.

    Sunday 9 March Mantes la Jolie to Mantes la Jolie
    Monday 10 March Rambouillet to Saint-George sur Bauche
    Tuesday 11 March Toucy to circuit de Magny Cours
    Wednesday 12 March Nevers to Belleville sur Saône
    Thursday 13 March Crèche sur Saône to Rive de Gier
    Friday 14 March ? to Fayence
    Saturday 15 March ? to Nice
    Sunday 16 March Nice to Col d’éze

    You have a good informant ;)
    inseine wrote:
    They seem to call the TT, Nice-Col d'èze. It's not clear whether the first stage is a prologue or a looped road stage. I'm hoping for the later, purely for selfish reasons. I'd rather see the TT than a road stage, in the flesh.

    The first stage should be 160km. It is too long for a prologue or ITT.
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  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,821
    Didn't the late Xavi Tondo fall off at the finish line as well?
  • sconnellan
    sconnellan Posts: 25
    Went 2 years ago for Wiggo's first win of the season. Very laid back event, great day out, beautiful weather. Didnt manage to go last year, missus broke her arm 2 days before travelling, but will be back for 2014. Nibali racing so may draw a few good names in. Great sitting on the side of the hill watching the riaders off 1 by 1.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Ooooh glad Nibali is riding rather than TA as they are two different races.

    I also love this race. Contador created such drama and excitement in this race on many occasions which is another reason to like it. Those were the days of real racing.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • sconnellan
    sconnellan Posts: 25
    Remember old Contador days 2007, was working the weekend in Cannes the day it rolled into town.
  • andyrac
    andyrac Posts: 1,197
    Ah, I love this race; the unofficial start of the European season. Always Sky+ it and watch it after getting home from work. Got the last 3-4 years still on my Sky box.

    I know TDU, Qatar, and Oman have already happened, but this feels different.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Ooooh glad Nibali is riding rather than TA as they are two different races.
    He's having a go at the Tour of Flanders this year too. (As cobbles practice, mostly)
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    RichN95 wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Ooooh glad Nibali is riding rather than TA as they are two different races.
    He's having a go at the Tour of Flanders this year too. (As cobbles practice, mostly)

    Pointless.

    Boonen agrees.
    _
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Pointless.

    Boonen agrees.
    Yeah, but he's someone who lives on cobbles. If you've never ridden on them, and then don't, the prospect of them can build into more of a concern than it merits. He won't learn much, but it will give him some confidence.
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  • FJS
    FJS Posts: 4,820
    AndyRAC wrote:
    Ah, I love this race; the unofficial start of the European season.
    I know TDU, Qatar, and Oman have already happened, but this feels different.
    :o Nooooo, that's Omloop Het Nieuwsblad!!! Heresy :wink:
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    RichN95 wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Pointless.

    Boonen agrees.
    Yeah, but he's someone who lives on cobbles. If you've never ridden on them, and then don't, the prospect of them can build into more of a concern than it merits. He won't learn much, but it will give him some confidence.

    Sure, but comparing cobbles in Flanders to cobbles in Roubaix is like comparing Gouda with Stilton, saying 'well, they're both cheese..'
    _
  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Pointless.

    Boonen agrees.
    Yeah, but he's someone who lives on cobbles. If you've never ridden on them, and then don't, the prospect of them can build into more of a concern than it merits. He won't learn much, but it will give him some confidence.

    Sure, but comparing cobbles in Flanders to cobbles in Roubaix is like comparing Gouda with Stilton, saying 'well, they're both cheese..'

    I'd say the Roubaix cobbles are stilton and the Flanders ones more Cambazola if you know what I mean
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Pointless.

    Boonen agrees.
    Yeah, but he's someone who lives on cobbles. If you've never ridden on them, and then don't, the prospect of them can build into more of a concern than it merits. He won't learn much, but it will give him some confidence.

    Sure, but comparing cobbles in Flanders to cobbles in Roubaix is like comparing Gouda with Stilton, saying 'well, they're both cheese..'
    Which is important if you are applying to become Professor of Cheese at Roquefort University, but not so much if you are just hungry.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,651
    RichN95 wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Pointless.

    Boonen agrees.
    Yeah, but he's someone who lives on cobbles. If you've never ridden on them, and then don't, the prospect of them can build into more of a concern than it merits. He won't learn much, but it will give him some confidence.

    Sure, but comparing cobbles in Flanders to cobbles in Roubaix is like comparing Gouda with Stilton, saying 'well, they're both cheese..'
    Which is important if you are applying to become Professor of Cheese at Roquefort University, but not so much if you are just hungry.

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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Blessed are the Cheesemakers

    Whatever the argument re the different cobbleage, fair play to Nibbles
  • dave milne
    dave milne Posts: 703
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    No TT or hilltop finish apparently
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Bah and Bah again
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    This route looks a bit bobbins to me.

    Cue rush of riders all wanting to do T-A...
    Correlation is not causation.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Personally I approve of the route. I've argued in the past that Paris-Nice and Tirreno-Adriatico need to be more distinct in nature with one catering to the GC riders and one to the classics riders. It makes no sense having two very similar races at basically the same time.
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    I approve too. TTs and MTFs shape the race in a certain way, where racing is controlled by those teams with GC riders who favour them. This format could lead to much more open racing, where tactically savvy and opportunistic riders have more of a chance.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    I hadn't thought of it that way. Makes sense. Would have liked one uphill finish though.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    still *sulking*

    I wanted me a finish on Col d'Eze. Was even planning a weekend trip for it.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    You can go to San Benedetto del Tronto instead. What's a mountain above Nice...

    col_deze1.jpg

    Compared to boring flat Adriatic coastal resort.

    I mean look how lovely it looks:

    sanbenedettodeltronto.jpg
    Correlation is not causation.

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