Data Protection...

thekickingmule
thekickingmule Posts: 7,957
edited December 2013 in The Crudcatcher
Anyone here genuinely know anything about it?

Scenario: A person takes something from a room, but returns it later and it's all captured on CCTV. It's my equipment, and I am used to this happening, but have agreed to talk to this person.

Now, several heads of departments demand to be told the name of this person, so they can have a stern word with him.

Does Data Protection protect this person from being named to people that don't need to know? This person occasionally works for the different departments. He didn't steal anything, he merely borrowed it.

Basically, I want to deal with this without telling the different Heads, but they're demanding me to tell them. Trip to HR?

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  • benpinnick
    benpinnick Posts: 4,148
    Give the footage to your boss. Make it his/her problem.
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  • angry_bird
    angry_bird Posts: 3,787
    Tell them to fuck off and then just go D lock the cunt.
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  • thekickingmule
    thekickingmule Posts: 7,957
    My boss is in the situation of not knowing anything about Data Protection, so was a bit confused as to why I wouldn't tell her then name.

    I'm liking Angry Birds response, that's been my thinking so far
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  • 97th choice
    97th choice Posts: 2,222
    It's the persons line managers responsibility to sort out, and fark all business of the rest of them.
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  • welshkev
    welshkev Posts: 9,690
    I'm confused as to why they can't access the cctv themselves? or is this a webcam or something similar you're set up? if so isn't there a law about recording people without their knowledge? :?
  • pesky_jones
    pesky_jones Posts: 2,890
    Just give them the name, what is he your boyfriend
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    No DP issues at all, a name is not data, the data is the other info attached to a name like DOB address etc etc
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  • bennett_346
    bennett_346 Posts: 5,029
    The Rookie wrote:
    No DP issues at all, a name is not data, the data is the other info attached to a name like DOB address etc etc
    Pretty much, handing over a name isn't a breach of data protection, it isn't data. However it's his line manager's problem and nobody elses, it's up to you whether you feel the need to tell the other heads of departments.

    Do you work at a university OP?
  • FishFish
    FishFish Posts: 2,152
    The purpose of the data is surveillance therefore using it as intended - ie to identify a thief is not a DP issue but the Data Owner - presumably the GM will need to know. You consider the consequences to be relevant - that is a different matter.

    If the council uses voting records to track down the name of a non-payer of council tax then that is a DP issue bevause the purpose of the voting info was to vote and it is being mis-used.
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  • Clank
    Clank Posts: 2,323
    Give me an picture and an approximate address.

    Your problem will disappear in a pink mist.
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  • Woodmonkey
    Woodmonkey Posts: 412
    If they returned said item without being asked what is the problem? Mass email department heads and hr and "suspect" if you can share their name you can share who wants it
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  • thekickingmule
    thekickingmule Posts: 7,957
    bennett_346 wrote:

    Do you work at a university OP?
    Bingo. Said person was a student, not a member of staff.

    Well, we've been ordered to give the name out by people higher in the food chain. There's an absolute which hunt for this person now, he's going to be "Spoken to" by several people. I've pointed out that this happens all the time, so it's unfair to deal with this one person like this, but hey, I'm a mere voice in the crowd of angry people.

    Cheers everyone, Clank had the best answer though ;)
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  • bennett_346
    bennett_346 Posts: 5,029
    thekickingmule wrote:
    bennett_346 wrote:

    Do you work at a university OP?
    Bingo. Said person was a student, not a member of staff.

    Well, we've been ordered to give the name out by people higher in the food chain. There's an absolute which hunt for this person now, he's going to be "Spoken to" by several people. I've pointed out that this happens all the time, so it's unfair to deal with this one person like this, but hey, I'm a mere voice in the crowd of angry people.

    Cheers everyone, Clank had the best answer though ;)
    I also work at one. Inter-departmental relations are the worst of the worst sometimes.
  • FishFish
    FishFish Posts: 2,152
    I used to study at one. And nick everyones stuff.
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  • thekickingmule
    thekickingmule Posts: 7,957
    Well, if you were at the place I work, you would be branded a thief now! It's ridiculous.

    Apparently taking a small soundcard from a Mac Lab isn't the same as taking a guitar amp out of a studio. MADNESS!
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  • tlw1
    tlw1 Posts: 22,156
    thekickingmule wrote:
    Well, if you were at the place I work, you would be branded a thief now! It's ridiculous.

    Apparently taking a small soundcard from a Mac Lab isn't the same as taking a guitar amp out of a studio. MADNESS!

    Snugs is at your uni and is a thief?
  • Clank
    Clank Posts: 2,323
    FishFish wrote:
    I used to study at one. And nick everyones stuff.

    Tried that stunt in my cell, and I'd have broken your fingers.

    ....and neither would you have been the first.
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  • 97th choice
    97th choice Posts: 2,222
    thekickingmule wrote:
    bennett_346 wrote:

    Do you work at a university OP?
    Bingo. Said person was a student, not a member of staff.

    Well, we've been ordered to give the name out by people higher in the food chain. There's an absolute which hunt for this person now, he's going to be "Spoken to" by several people. I've pointed out that this happens all the time, so it's unfair to deal with this one person like this, but hey, I'm a mere voice in the crowd of angry people.

    Cheers everyone, Clank had the best answer though ;)

    To be fair, employees of university's and schools are so far divorced from reality that I can understand how seriously they take this grave issue.
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