Hmmm, I did read that somewhere too actually. For someone as wussy as me that might be an issue.
So basically, the XG Pro is probably the same as the cheaper version of folding Grifo by the looks of things?
The Conti looks ok but I suspect not radically different to my current Kendas on mucky stuff.
Challenge and Vittoria are virtually the same thing... they are made in the same plant in Thailand and they are remarkably similar in every way