Fun or Speed: Whats your choice?
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You get bigger differences on the road IMO - notably wind and bunch riding. I know a lot of the road segments round here fell during the Tour of Britain, and having ridden some of them I can put out a similar power to the KOMs, but I'm 30% slower!
On the MTB everyone slows down in winter and gets quicker in summer, it's much more cyclical. On the road rider x could be really slow one day, and KOM the next.0 -
Angry Bird wrote:I like Strava, a few mates use it too, we can see what we've all been up to, we can compete against eachother for fun. It's nice to keep track of the miles and it's also relatively useful as a training tool. Makes much more sense when it comes to riding on the road though.RockmonkeySC wrote:A good rider on a rubbish bike will be faster than an average rider on an expensive bike so I disagree that you can buy your way to the top.
Equaly a good rider on a "rubbish" bike will be slower than a good rider on an expensive bike.
I have seen some very good riders on rubbish bikes show up talentless riders on top end bikes.
I would say the differences in bikes don't really count for as much as a lot of people think.Transition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350 -
RockmonkeySC wrote:Angry Bird wrote:I like Strava, a few mates use it too, we can see what we've all been up to, we can compete against eachother for fun. It's nice to keep track of the miles and it's also relatively useful as a training tool. Makes much more sense when it comes to riding on the road though.RockmonkeySC wrote:A good rider on a rubbish bike will be faster than an average rider on an expensive bike so I disagree that you can buy your way to the top.
Equaly a good rider on a "rubbish" bike will be slower than a good rider on an expensive bike.
I have seen some very good riders on rubbish bikes show up talentless riders on top end bikes.
I would say the differences in bikes don't really count for as much as a lot of people think.
I don't think that's what he's trying to say though and what others have tried to say as well, take two riders of similar ability, give one a cheap bike and the other and expensive one and it's likely the guy on the expensive (better) bike will be quicker than the guy on the cheap (worse) bike0 -
Anecdotal evidence does not trump sound logic and reasoning.RockmonkeySC wrote:Angry Bird wrote:I like Strava, a few mates use it too, we can see what we've all been up to, we can compete against eachother for fun. It's nice to keep track of the miles and it's also relatively useful as a training tool. Makes much more sense when it comes to riding on the road though.RockmonkeySC wrote:A good rider on a rubbish bike will be faster than an average rider on an expensive bike so I disagree that you can buy your way to the top.
Equaly a good rider on a "rubbish" bike will be slower than a good rider on an expensive bike.
I have seen some very good riders on rubbish bikes show up talentless riders on top end bikes.
I would say the differences in bikes don't really count for as much as a lot of people think.0 -
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Pretty much.lawman wrote:I don't think that's what he's trying to say though and what others have tried to say as well, take two riders of similar ability, give one a cheap bike and the other and expensive one and it's likely the guy on the expensive (better) bike will be quicker than the guy on the cheap (worse) bike0 -
Not you, clearly. Bye-bye.Myster101 wrote:Arrrgggghhhhhh......who ******* cares!0 -
lawman wrote:RockmonkeySC wrote:Angry Bird wrote:I like Strava, a few mates use it too, we can see what we've all been up to, we can compete against eachother for fun. It's nice to keep track of the miles and it's also relatively useful as a training tool. Makes much more sense when it comes to riding on the road though.RockmonkeySC wrote:A good rider on a rubbish bike will be faster than an average rider on an expensive bike so I disagree that you can buy your way to the top.
Equaly a good rider on a "rubbish" bike will be slower than a good rider on an expensive bike.
I have seen some very good riders on rubbish bikes show up talentless riders on top end bikes.
I would say the differences in bikes don't really count for as much as a lot of people think.
I don't think that's what he's trying to say though and what others have tried to say as well, take two riders of similar ability, give one a cheap bike and the other and expensive one and it's likely the guy on the expensive (better) bike will be quicker than the guy on the cheap (worse) bike
That's exactly what I was meaning. I think he's just too thick to realise it.0 -
bennett_346 wrote:
Not you, clearly. Bye-bye.Myster101 wrote:Arrrgggghhhhhh......who ******* cares!
You going somewhere nice? Hope the weathers a bit warmer than here, have a good time.__________________
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Strava has its uses, until you realise youve been chasing the postman in his van up a hill (sure someone has had that one here).
I use it more with my friends were all unfit to varying degrees so its a bit of fun and motivation currently were seeing who can ride the furthest not the fastest.
Biking is more for me about having fun an yes a big chunk of that can be speed catching some air etc but you can still have loads of fun a slower speeds plus you can see more than if your batting around only focusing on the trail your riding.
Youll always have stat chasers its the nature of sport some people are more competitive than others. Equally youll have people who dont give a crap an just log it so they can have a record of what they have done and where.0 -
Angry Bird wrote:lawman wrote:RockmonkeySC wrote:Angry Bird wrote:I like Strava, a few mates use it too, we can see what we've all been up to, we can compete against eachother for fun. It's nice to keep track of the miles and it's also relatively useful as a training tool. Makes much more sense when it comes to riding on the road though.RockmonkeySC wrote:A good rider on a rubbish bike will be faster than an average rider on an expensive bike so I disagree that you can buy your way to the top.
Equaly a good rider on a "rubbish" bike will be slower than a good rider on an expensive bike.
I have seen some very good riders on rubbish bikes show up talentless riders on top end bikes.
I would say the differences in bikes don't really count for as much as a lot of people think.
I don't think that's what he's trying to say though and what others have tried to say as well, take two riders of similar ability, give one a cheap bike and the other and expensive one and it's likely the guy on the expensive (better) bike will be quicker than the guy on the cheap (worse) bike
That's exactly what I was meaning. I think he's just too thick to realise it.
Cos he's a downhill racer boy innit
He must be this guy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyTyjQbvylg 0 -
That's brilliant. 0 -
Ahhh I see, I thought he was just a bit special.0
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welshkev wrote:
Yeah I've heard he rides park a lot, but not bike park wales...0 -
I don't ride park. Or trail centres. Mostly because I don't like other people.Transition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350
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RockmonkeySC wrote:I don't ride park. Or trail centres. Mostly because I don't like other people.
Have you tried Strava? I hear it's great for people with no friends!!RockmonkeySC wrote:Strava is for competitive people with no mates or a fear of social interaction.0 -
lawman wrote:RockmonkeySC wrote:I don't ride park. Or trail centres. Mostly because I don't like other people.
Have you tried Strava? I hear it's great for people with no friends!!RockmonkeySC wrote:Strava is for competitive people with no mates or a fear of social interaction. 0 -
Fun, but it's nice to know I'm getting faster as my fitness improves.0
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Why not just use Endomondo then, it's far better as far as tracking goes with less emphasis on prissy leaderboards for routes.Matt-r8 wrote:Fun, but it's nice to know I'm getting faster as my fitness improves.0 -
lawman wrote:RockmonkeySC wrote:I don't ride park. Or trail centres. Mostly because I don't like other people.
Have you tried Strava? I hear it's great for people with no friends!!RockmonkeySC wrote:Strava is for competitive people with no mates or a fear of social interaction.
pahahaha0 -
bennett_346 wrote:
Why not just use Endomondo then, it's far better as far as tracking goes with less emphasis on prissy leaderboards for routes.Matt-r8 wrote:Fun, but it's nice to know I'm getting faster as my fitness improves.
How? Surely leaderboards are the best evidence of getting faster? What does Endomondo do differently?0 -
Having used both i found it far better for tracking your own personal development. Comparing yourself to a leaderboard of others is less than ideal IMO.njee20 wrote:bennett_346 wrote:
Why not just use Endomondo then, it's far better as far as tracking goes with less emphasis on prissy leaderboards for routes.Matt-r8 wrote:Fun, but it's nice to know I'm getting faster as my fitness improves.
How? Surely leaderboards are the best evidence of getting faster? What does Endomondo do differently?0 -
welshkev wrote:lawman wrote:RockmonkeySC wrote:I don't ride park. Or trail centres. Mostly because I don't like other people.
Have you tried Strava? I hear it's great for people with no friends!!RockmonkeySC wrote:Strava is for competitive people with no mates or a fear of social interaction.
pahahaha
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bennett_346 wrote:
Having used both i found it far better for tracking your own personal development. Comparing yourself to a leaderboard of others is less than ideal IMO.njee20 wrote:bennett_346 wrote:
Why not just use Endomondo then, it's far better as far as tracking goes with less emphasis on prissy leaderboards for routes.Matt-r8 wrote:Fun, but it's nice to know I'm getting faster as my fitness improves.
How? Surely leaderboards are the best evidence of getting faster? What does Endomondo do differently?
But how? What does it do that tracks personal development? They only have the same data to work with? From what I've seen Strava Premium is pretty good if you want actual analytics, but otherwise they're limited by the data you're putting in, and what those metrics can tell you. Agree that relative positions aren't that useful, but if you're regularly smashing PRs on Strava then you're probably going better, likewise if you're moving up leaderboards. What can Endomondo do that's different?0 -
I find strava easier to use than endomondo too, and nicer to look at too.0
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bennett_346 wrote:
Why not just use Endomondo then, it's far better as far as tracking goes with less emphasis on prissy leaderboards for routes.Matt-r8 wrote:Fun, but it's nice to know I'm getting faster as my fitness improves.
I just look at my watch before I set off and then again when I finish the trail.0 -
Your watch tells you your speed at particular section of a route on a visual map? Wow!Matt-r8 wrote:bennett_346 wrote:
Why not just use Endomondo then, it's far better as far as tracking goes with less emphasis on prissy leaderboards for routes.Matt-r8 wrote:Fun, but it's nice to know I'm getting faster as my fitness improves.
I just look at my watch before I set off and then again when I finish the trail.0 -
No, why would it. I never implied it did either. My initial reply was "fun" if my watch states I've done a trail a little quicker than the time before, then it's a bonus. I don't need to go on a leader board to tell me I'm slow up hill but quick down. Maybe if I was competitive and was looking at where improvements could be made, the Apps would be a useful tool.0
