Northwave winter boots
mattgeezer
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Looking at getting a pair of these for the road bike,
Has anyone used the fahrenheit and the arctic are the latter much warmer/worth the extra 30£?
Cheers
Has anyone used the fahrenheit and the arctic are the latter much warmer/worth the extra 30£?
Cheers
Allez 2013
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GT Moto 2003
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They are much better than overshoes at keeping feet dry (road spray water gets in around the cleat hole on overshoes)
but if it's lashing down then water will run down your legs and nothing will keep you dry. As mentioned the water will warm up like a wetsuit with these so you'll stay comfortable. I found this to be more of a problem with overshoes than with these.
In summary money well spent for me. Can't imagine you would need the arctic as our winters are mild compared to continental Europe, certainly not arctic or even Alpine!
If you know you're heading for a deluge you can seal the top opening (eg with a section of dry suit rubber ankle seal or just tape to your skin) and then fit your winter tights over the top of this. Having said that, they work like wetsuit boots when wet anyway so you should not get evaporation-induced chill.
Having tried many multi layered solutions (food bags, double overshoes etc etc) which are good, but a royal pain, these Northwave boots are superb whether it's cold and wet or just cold - I've had mine down to around 3 degrees so far but plan plenty of sub-zero days this winter.
The "Artic" (as they spell it!) have a fleece lining but to be honest a pair of thin merino socks would do the same thing at a guess. Again, it's all about hassle-saving foot warmth for me, so the Arctic are the best solution in this respect.
Wouldn't go back to overshoes.
Not really sure what MicktheMove was expecting - these are good boots but they don't have an anti gravity field. A combination of the boots, good thick overshoes and tights over longish calf sealskin socks should keep your feet dry for a good while (if not the boot inner) but even there, eventually enough water soaks through the tights to get inside the socks. Mudguards, as said, help.
it was the case that one shoe was a lot worse than the other that made me return them, thats all, I would have also expected a tighter seal round the top of the boot. As i said they are warm and i have brought a pair of overboots with what looks like a tight seal around the top so when they are replaced i think i will be sorted.
Or just do the sensible thing and take them off. They are only of any use if you need them for off road walking. They making putting overshoes on awkward anyway.
My usual road shoes are Northwave Extreme techs - a nice feature of these shoes is that they're supplied with two types of insole - a thicker one for when you wear Summer weight socks and a thinner one for when you're wearing Winter weight socks. Simple but effective as my shoes fit exactly the same when using the Winter/Summer sock/insole combo.
It would make life much easier if more manufacturers done this.
I think some miss the point of these boots, it's not that they are much warmer/drier than alternatives, just massively less hassle.
The alternative option for me (summer shoes (with wiggle room of course) + foodbags + thin overshoes + neoprene overshoes) keep your feet just as warm/dry but the convenience of the Northwave boots when commuting (or when not too) is worth the money imho.
Getting the MTB version (Celcius) adds another advantage, that you can clump about in snow/ice/mud etc without worrying about ruining your neoprene overshoes. I love the fact that I don't have to do my daily hopping ritual when I arrive at work/home to remove all the overshoes etc before trying to walk.
I bought larger but still find wearing thick merino socks makes them tight, and tight shoes reduce circulation and make your feet colder. I now have some great Prendas mid-weight socks that fit well and are warm. The boot is much much warmer and when the temps get close to 0 degs I put on a neoprene overshoe for a little extra protection.
I have also found that layering some neoprene toe-things, oversocks and then overshoes over standard road shoes can also make for a fairly warm foot, and for those that dont suffer the cold quite as much its probably a good solution, but I always get cold feet after a few hours on long rides and the winter boots are a much better option for me. First ride in them today as it was 2 degs when I left and had comfy toasty feet all the way!
I take a 43 in normal shoes, 44 in my lg road shoes should i go 44 in these? Are they small anyway or do they fit similar to normal footwear? Thanks
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Just got a pair of artics today, so I cant comment on warmth etc. yet. As for size, I would definitely size up. Size 46 fit me snuggly with wooly bullies (not tight or loose), a tiny bit shorter & wider than my Shimano shoes and winter boots which are also 46. In non-cycling shoes I am usually 45 or 45.5.
For NW's they do come up small. I take a full size larger in theses than I do with my other NW shoes. You could always get from Wiggle or CRC and use Collect+ to return free of charge. They should price match too.
Anyway got the 46's delivered bought online 10% extra off so £109.34 tried them on they seemed very roomy in the toe box area with no way of pulling them in like normal road shoes.I put my Look Keos cleats on & placet he cleat to keep my shoes as far away from the cranks as they will go to avoid scuff marks on my cranks.
I went for a 24 mile test ride. Dam these things are heavy in like cycling in diving boots or Doc Martins! My feet were toasty warm & there was no rain so I can't comment on the water proof side of things.
When I got home the first thing I always do is clean my bike before I put it away. To my horror there was a huge scuff mark on the drive side crank arm near the centre of the chainrings which looks like it caused by the new boots. All the black paint was scuffed away in a 1"long arc as the ankle area of the boots scuffed by with every pedal stroke. when I checked the boots there was quite a bulge on the ankle area of the boots but worse on the right boot which had been contacing the crank arm & there was evidence of them rubbing away my paint as the right one was marked. The left was not marked & the ankle bulge was not as bad as the right one.
None of my previuos 3 pairs of road shoes have ever contacted the crank arms in 12,000 miles and 2 years of riding. There is no way of pulling this area of the boots in by doing them up any tighter. The quick lace system is junk your left with 6" of lace to tuck done in the top of your boots. On the whole the worst cycling purchase I made in 2 years I going back to summer shoes and overshoes.
I contact the seller a large cycling online retailer & they said send them back as awarranty claim so they went back this afternoon & I asked for a full refund.
I am most disappointed in these Northwave Fahrenheit GTX boots they are a sloppy fit by road shoe standards and mine had a fault on them which causes them to bulge out at the ankles. Hopefully I will get my money back. All the negative stuff I saw in my web research proved to be right and some in my case. You may think why did you buy them if there was negative feedback on them. The answer is there was lots more positive feedback so I just took into account the sizing thing.
Another observation I will make is they feel OK walking out to the garage to get the bike but when you start to ride boy do they feel heavy then!
Think very long & hard before you waste over £100 on these winter boots! :evil:
No they are not, it's in your head because of their visual bulk. I just weighed them - and believe it or not they are lighter than the equivalent shoe/overshoe combo!
Option 1: Northwave Celcius Arctic size 43, bone dry, with metal SPD cleat. Average weight per boot: 503g
Option 2: Specialized S-Works MTB shoe, size 43, bone dry, with metal SPD cleat + Plastic food bag + lightweight stretch overshoe + BBB Hardwear neoprene overshoe. Average weight per foot: 547g
Option 3: as above but no lightweight overshoe but an additional thin pair of socks instead. Average weight per foot: 519g
The S-Works is one of the lightest shoes available and the set up listed gives approximately the same waterproofness/warmth as the Northwaves, but with a whole load more hassle obviously.
So, proof that despite the apparent bulk of the Northwaves, they are, in fact, a lighter option for deep winter riding. When you get them out of the box, they do surprise you how light they are, and you get the same impression when you walk in them (as ineedalager noted). The "bulk" of them is invisible once I'm riding, I just forget about them and revel in the smug feeling of having such warm feet!
They're bloody heavy compared to good carbon soled shoes and don't make me laugh by claiming they keep your feet dry on properly wet roads.
I think you've missed the point and are comparing apples with oranges - the point being that lightweight carbon sole shoes (like my S-Works) don't keep you warm and dry in deep winter unless you add a whole load of weight in the form of overshoes etc. which ends up a heavier option, as I describe so beautifully above.
And giggle away, the Goretex Northwaves keep your feet dry* in the most torrential rain and on Scottish roads which I can assure you get "properly" wet.
* apart from that big hole in the top where you put your foot in (although a drysuit ankle seal can be used to effectively seal that for long wet rides).
+1, well said. Especially with the caveat that, in persistent rain, an extra neoprene seal between boot top and leg is best. That would apply to all boots though (and overshoes to an extent?). Looks like a gap in the market for these seeings as I can't find the Protective jobbies I use on the web anymore. Will keep looking and if I find them will post a link